Liberal Party Takes Lead in Polls

[Dougie93]

12 minutes ago, Aristides said:

It's a funny old world. If the Dems had won or even if Trump had kept his big mouth shut, the Conservatives would probably be coasting to a majority. Instead, the dumb fvck threatens Canada and gives the Liberals the biggest gift they have ever had. In my life, I have never seen a party's fortunes change so fast. I'm starting to believe the m0ron actually believes a majority of Canadians want to be Americans.

Americans don't care what government is running Canada

Americans barely take any notice of Canada at all

in terms of Donald Trump, I would say he actually prefers Trudeau, since Trudeau is the perfect foil for MAGA

there really is no affinity between Republicans and the Conservative Party of Canada

to Republicans, Canadian "Conservatives" are also big government nanny state socialists

[Dougie93]

16 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

The PCs are dead.  That moderate, big tent party is long gone.  
Is that maybe part of the problem?

exactly.

all elections in Canada are decided in the Greater Toronto Area

and this is not Prairie Populist land round here

the GTA is the PC stronghold

Doug Ford does not like nor get along with PP at all

Doug Ford would rather work with the Liberals

[Dougie93]

11 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

I agree that’s part of it.  But I think Canadians are desperate not to vote for PP.  

the Liberals just have to ride the anti-Trump wave, promising to spend whatever it takes to prop Canada up

shoot for a minority government

if the Conservatives only have a minority, that government won't last long in a crisis

[Dougie93]

10 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

A good start.  PP has an image problem of his own doing.  He's a slimy used-car salesman and people don't trust the guy.

I don't distrust Poilievre in the sense that he doesn't believe in what he says

I just wouldn't trust the Conservative party in general to follow through on radical transformation

to try to make all of Canada adhere to what Alberta wants ; that's totally unrealistic

the better option for Alberta is to cede from Confederation and join the United States

[Moonlight Graham]

5 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

I don't distrust Poilievre in the sense that he doesn't believe in what he says

I just wouldn't trust the Conservative party in general to follow through on radical transformation

to try to make all of Canada adhere to what Alberta wants ; that's totally unrealistic

the better option for Alberta is to cede from Confederation and join the United States

That's because you're a paid Russian bot.

[Dougie93]

5 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

That's because you're a paid Russian bot.

why would the Russians be paying me to be a pro-NATO, pro-Ukraine, Loyalist to the British Crown ?

at this point I would actually advocate for NATO to enter the war on the side of Ukraine

engage the Russians head to head, even at the risk of nuclear war

if the Kremlin wanted to throw me some cash for saying that ; I wouldn't turn it down

[eyeball]

16 hours ago, PIK said:

Cons have a plan, they've been consitant about it. The libs contenders have all done a 180°. They are saying what PP been saying for quite sometime. 

It's what lefty's are not talking about that's sinking the Conservatives....space lasers....COVID authoritarianism... climate change is fake news... Ukraine started it...

It's PP's base of support that's dragging him down. Instead of having to squelch out just one Randy White Conservatives have millions to contend with.

The Big Tent is a Freaker's Ball that's spilled out into the street and Trump is a magnifying glass and spotlight bringing it into sharp focus.

A vote for the right wing is a vote for Crazyville and in the face of that Canada's natural governing ideology is asserting itself.

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

I’m starting to think dumb ass Trump could hand our next election to the Liberals. Wonder what PP is thinking about that.

Maybe calling Trump and asking him to shut up for a month or so.

Good luck with that.

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

why not ?

the Liberals are the nationalist party in Canada

and in a crisis, what are the Normies actually going to be clambering for ?

massive big government intervention ; which is what the Liberals are all about

"A friend to all is a friend to none", and the Libs' brand is "Canada-last quislings" who pander to special interest groups and foreigners at the expense of middle-class grinders.

If sh1t gets real you're calling your buddy who made the team because of 'intangibles', and you'd die alone before you'd call the perimeter player who asked for a trade to your arch-rivals just because they were the top team in the league. 

 

F the liberals. If they have it out with the Taliban, I'm Switzerland. 

Edited February 26 by WestCanMan

[Dougie93]

9 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

"A friend to all is a friend to none", and the Libs' brand is "Canada-last quislings" who pander to special interest groups and foreigners at the expense of middle-class grinders.

If sh1t gets real you're calling your buddy who made the team because of 'intangibles', and you'd die alone before you'd call the perimeter player who asked for a trade to your arch-rivals just because they were the top team in the league. 

 

F the liberals. If they have it out with the Taliban, I'm Switzerland. 

but the Liberals will call you the Quisling, and they are half the population at least

Canada is like a giant Ulster therein

on one side are the Unionists let's say,

not Orange Order anymore, but Old Stock Canadians as Stephen Harper said

on the other side is the French & Indian Republicans ; the Post National State

this is diametric opposition, effectively a civil war already in progress

and just like in Northern Ireland, the American Fenians are now throwing gasoline on the fire

Edited February 26 by Dougie93

[CdnFox]

18 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

 

Isn't that what they’ve been doing?  Why would you do the same thing and expect a different result?

Been doing for the what, 3 weeks or so that's it's been since Trudeau step down and the leadership begain?   LOL

First off never trust anything from ecos with regards to this. Frank grieves came out and said loudly and publicly that he would do anything he possibly could to see you to it that Poilievre would never be prime minister. He later backtracked on that but there's no doubt that he is quite prepared to put his finger on the scales if it's going to help hurt poilievre

Other polls are actually showing a legitimate liberal bump on them under suggesting that the liberals are ahead of the conservatives

There's always excitement around a new leader. You get this weird flurry of activity just like we saw with Kamala Harris. Remember when they announced her and she soared up in the polls and was over trump and was definitely leading trump in the polls? Yeah.

Making a radical shift in direction would be wrong for the conservatives right now. Poilievre's  message was resonating and a lot of people bought into it. In fact carney is basically just repeating everything that Poilievre said. Some minor changes to address things like trump  is all that's really required and then just hammer the message home and while you're at it make sure the information about carney spreads . He moved his company to the states and then lied about it. He says that if he carbon taxes steal then there's no way that the steel manufacturers can pass that on to the consumer because people don't just buy steel, which is right up there with the budget of balance itself

 it's like when you're hunting pheasants, don't try and shoot them in the first second they come off the ground cuz they fly like crazy, wait a second and they'll fly straight and you can zap them . There's no point in overcorrecting right now

[Dougie93]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

If sh1t gets real you're calling your buddy who made the team because of 'intangibles', and you'd die alone before you'd call the perimeter player

but what would you even be fighting for ?

practically nobody in Canada believes in Canada's constitution and system of governance anymore

why would you want to kill & die for ;

ideological speech banning, arbitrary property confiscation & broken socialist healthcare ?

what else is there ?  Fear,  loathing & resentment of America is not much of a cause to rally around

I don't like Quebec and I wouldn't want to live in that nanny state on steroids

none the less, the Separatists have it right ; Canada doesn't really serve a purpose anymore

you could easily live the lifestyle of a contemporary Canadian in an American Blue State

Massachusetts is more like Canada used to be than Canada is now

whatever bank people are making in Toronto, they'd be making twice that much in Boston

what Canadians call "middle class" now, the Americans call that poverty

meanwhile Toronto has a higher violent crime rate and more gun play now than Boston does

warfighting is a young mans game

yet if they could have American citizenship, the young men would be evacuating to the USA

Canada would be hollowing out like Newfoundland writ large

sure, the Boomers in Canada are outraged by Donald Trump

but the Zoomers just shrug, they couldn't tell you what the point of Canada is

the Zoomers are already Americans by default ;

since they live their entire lives on their smartphones by American social media

to Zoomers, Canada is like the Iron Curtain,

keeping them from escaping the Boomer socialist nanny state which needs to be propped up

Edited February 26 by Dougie93

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

but the Liberals will call you the Quisling

Maybe reflexively, just because they recognize the contempt in my voice as I'm saying it, but the few who know what it means don't think of it as a pejorative. 

The world is full of social chameleons who would rather rim the new overlord than fix bayonets. 

Liberals are only tough when they're talking about how valiantly other people should be fighting: "There are still some Ukrainians alive, let's give them some LAVs and all the scary-looking .22s that we confiscated from law-abiding citizens, so that they can defeat the Russians and win 30,000 sq km of land back!" When push comes to shove, they all roll over. 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

but what would you even be fighting for ?

I don't think we need to die fighting to retain our sovereignty: Trump can't convince Americans to kill Canadians in a land-grab. 

We just need to be a real country for a change, not this jam-tart fairy tale that we've become under La Turd.

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Maybe reflexively,

reflexive Canadian conformist collectivism

it is not socially acceptable in Canada to go against the collective

because that is invoking American freedom, which terrifies Canadians

[Dougie93]

7 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I don't think we need to die fighting to retain our sovereignty: Trump can't convince Americans to kill Canadians in a land-grab.

but that is not what Trump has threatened to do

all Trump has said is that America is going to start competing with Canada,

as America does with foreign countries

and if Canada handle that, then Trump has offered to accept Canada into the Union as a solution

Canadians are getting knee jerk hysterical about a threat that was never made

Edited February 26 by Dougie93

[Dougie93]

17 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

We just need to be a real country for a change,

based on what ?

the foundation of the country is British North America

yet Canadians don't believe in that anymore

what are you going to do ; write a new constitution from scratch ?

I don't think you'd like how that turned out

because if Canadians as they are now were allowed to do that, you'll be living in Cuba North

the British Crown is the only thing standing between you and Maple Syrup Communism

HM The King gives you the right to opt put, ignore the Woke mob collective

but if Canada becomes the People's Republic that Canadians want, you'll be forced to kneel to that

the only saving grace of Canada, is that the Canadian public is not in charge

Edited February 26 by Dougie93

[WestCanMan]

8 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Canadians are getting knee jerk hysterical about a threat that was never made

The majority of Canadians couldn't care less if Trump says that he has no respect for Trudeau, because it's honest, and every world leader feels that way even if they don't say it.

Canadians are angry because Trump is being a douchebag to our whole country when he calls that snivelly tart 'governor'. 

Biden was a walking corpse, but we didn't insult all of America because of it. 

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

The majority of Canadians couldn't care less if Trump says that he has no respect for Trudeau, because it's honest, and every world leader feels that way even if they don't say it.

Canadians are angry because Trump is being a douchebag to our whole country when he calls that snivelly tart 'governor'.

Canadians are simply finding out that nobody takes Canada seriously anymore

you see any of Canada's supposed "friends" coming out to support Canada ?

Canada has made itself totally irrelevant on the international stage

because its actually Canadians who have become isolationists, holed up in their frozen socialist hermit kingdom

[Moonlight Graham]

4 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

why would the Russians be paying me to be a pro-NATO, pro-Ukraine, Loyalist to the British Crown ?

at this point I would actually advocate for NATO to enter the war on the side of Ukraine

engage the Russians head to head, even at the risk of nuclear war

if the Kremlin wanted to throw me some cash for saying that ; I wouldn't turn it down

Ok, you're a Chinese bot.

[Dougie93]

7 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Ok, you're a Chinese bot.

that's Justin Trudeau

I'm an Ulster Scots bot

serving William Prince of Orange

[Moonlight Graham]

2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

that's Justin Trudeau

I'm an Ulster Scots bot

serving William Prince of Orange

And yet you'd have to apply for UK citizenship lol

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Moonlight Graham said:

And yet you'd have to apply for UK citizenship lol

no need, since Canada is ruled by the same British Crown

[herbie]

No! No! It can't be true. Leftist liberal pollster media lies. Liberals can't even be close,we HATES them. We hates everything about them. Our poor precious, precious Tories....

[Legato]

23 minutes ago, herbie said:

No! No! It can't be true. Leftist liberal pollster media lies. Liberals can't even be close,we HATES them. We hates everything about them. Our poor precious, precious Tories....

Yes.