Matthew Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 (edited) On 2/17/2025 at 2:43 PM, herbie said: So the Orange Traitor is talking with Putin again without Ukranian involvement. And now demanding 50% of Ukraine's resources as reparations. Unethical scumbag in the White House reversing everything the USA has claimed to stand for. It's fine for Russia and the US to have their own meetings about this. The real cripplingly stupid flaw of these trump goons is that they are conceding everything before the negotiations even begin. Their STARTING position is to give Russia everything it wants while Russia gives nothing. Now today trump is parroting Kremlin taking points about Ukraine starting the war and needing to have an election. There is simply no doubt that Trump is an unwitting Russian asset. Edited February 19 by Matthew 1 Quote
I am Groot Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 2 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Ukraine knows what they they did. So does everyone else. Defended themselves? Rejected a Kremlin stooge as their leader? 2 hours ago, WestCanMan said: If you think that Canada could do what Ukraine did without seeing tanks cruising into Ottawa, you've got another thing coming. All you're saying here is might makes right - and that this is the way you think things should be. 1 Quote
eyeball Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 3 minutes ago, Matthew said: Their STARTING position is to give Russia everything it wants while Russia gives nothing. That was always the plan. There's was always some collusion alright. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Matthew Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 10 hours ago, eyeball said: That was always the plan. A lot of the more normie trump voters have been in denial about exactly how much trump is willing to do the bidding of Russia's dictator. Quote
Nationalist Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 Lol...Awe...is your precious little war coming to an end? Y'all remind me of a high-school girl who flirts with guys and then gets her bf to beat the poor sap up. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
WestCanMan Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 11 hours ago, I am Groot said: Defended themselves? Rejected a Kremlin stooge as their leader? You clearly don't know how or why the war started. FYI this isn't a comic book. Things are a little more complicated than CNN's "Bad man bad, good man good" narrative. Quote All you're saying here is might makes right - and that this is the way you think things should be. I'm saying that every country on earth has a military, except maybe Costa Rica. In addition to that, they mostly have strategic alliances with other countries for their mutual defence. Ukraine and Russia were part of an alliance from the time the Russians pushed the Nazis out until recently, but now the Nazis are making a comeback and Ukraine wants to change sides. Ten years ago I never thought that there would be Nazis in NATO, but here you are supporting it. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
WestCanMan Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 11 hours ago, eyeball said: There's was always some collusion alright. If there's any kind of collusion, it's between the Dems, GOP, and Military Industrial Complex, behind closed doors. The Dems instigated this war, their propaganda machine pushed it and put a bow on it, now Trump - who theoretically opposed it - suddenly wants to profit it from it instead. He wants to make a deal with Russia about how to split up Ukraine, just like he's making deals with the Arab dictators on how to split up Gaza, and the Dems and MIC are all over it. Arabs: "YOU CAN'T MOVE THE GAZANS OUT!!!! WE ARE APPALLED" Trump sent Rubio to talk to the dictators, soon there will be an MBS Hotel and a Trump Casino side by side on the beach by Rafah, the Hollywood elites and wealthy Persians will be building estates along the coast, and the Gazans will be forgotten. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
herbie Posted February 19 Author Report Posted February 19 15 hours ago, Matthew said: The real cripplingly stupid flaw of these trump goons is that they are conceding everything before the negotiations even begin No shit! And now Ukraine 'started the war' and 'should have already been negotiating peace ( IOW asking Russia for terms ) according to Dictator Donnie, oh wait, Zelensky's the dictator for postponing elections during a war... yeah that's the ticket. I suppose Trump would've thought Roosevelt should've negotiated with Japan after Pearl Harbour. 1 Quote
I am Groot Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 7 hours ago, WestCanMan said: You clearly don't know how or why the war started. Don't ever get it into your head I don't know more than you do about virtually everything. 7 hours ago, WestCanMan said: FYI this isn't a comic book. Things are a little more complicated than CNN's "Bad man bad, good man good" narrative. Says the guy who thinks FOX and Breitbart are unbiased news sources. 7 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Ukraine and Russia were part of an alliance from the time the Russians pushed the Nazis out until recently, but now the Nazis are making a comeback and Ukraine wants to change sides. I wouldn't call Putin a Nazi, necessarily, though I'm sure his policies and behaviour closely mirror those in many ways. 7 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Ten years ago I never thought that there would be Nazis in NATO, but here you are supporting it. Are you talking about Trump? I wouldn't call him a Nazi either, just a lazy, ignorant old geriatric authoritarian coasting downhill as his dementia grows deeper. 1 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 21 minutes ago, I am Groot said: Don't ever get it into your head I don't know more than you do about virtually everything. You can't even speak English ffs. Quote Says the guy who thinks FOX and Breitbart are unbiased news sources. Well that was just stupid. Next. Quote I wouldn't call Putin a Nazi, necessarily, though I'm sure his policies and behaviour closely mirror those in many ways. Yeah you would. You'd call anyone a Nazi if you didn't like them. If you're wondering what I was talking about, it's "people who have Nazi tattoos, wear Nazi insignias on their uniforms, and call themselves 'proud Nazis'." There aren't a lot of people who do that in this day and age, but if they do, and if they're an actual military unit, that's part of a developed nation's regular army, then they're the Azovs in Ukraine. Quote Are you talking about Trump? I wouldn't call him a Nazi either, just a lazy, ignorant old geriatric authoritarian coasting downhill as his dementia grows deeper. If Trump gets a Nazi tattoo and calls himself a Nazi then I will believe it. I'll believe anyone who calls themselves a Nazi. It's not like it's some kind of exclusive club with the strictest of membership conditions. The Azovs call themselves Nazis, so I just say "I believe the Azovs when they say that they are Nazis." Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
Michael Hardner Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 Classic newspaper caricature.... One thing I've learned about MAGA is that the hate being made fun of. If that's the only thing that works then so be it ... 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
CdnFox Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 18 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Classic newspaper caricature.... One thing I've learned about MAGA is that the hate being made fun of. If that's the only thing that works then so be it ... Have you called them chuds yet? Maybe that'll help 1 Quote
eyeball Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 9 hours ago, WestCanMan said: He wants to make a deal with Russia about how to split up Ukraine... I figure the deal is Putin gets Ukraine and Trump gets Canada. They probably cooked it up over breakfast after a night of hookers, cocaine and urine. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: Classic newspaper caricature.... One thing I've learned about MAGA is that the hate being made fun of. If that's the only thing that works then so be it .... Yabut tomorrow Trump will want to distance himself from being regarded as Putin's boytoy and announce that instead of Canada he'll annex Russia. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
I am Groot Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 (edited) 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: You can't even speak English ffs. That you aren't able to understand what I write is on you, not I. 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: If you're wondering what I was talking about, it's "people who have Nazi tattoos, wear Nazi insignias on their uniforms, and call themselves 'proud Nazis'." There aren't a lot of people who do that in this day and age, but if they do, and if they're an actual military unit, that's part of a developed nation's regular army, then they're the Azovs in Ukraine. There are militia groups like that in the United States. Not to mention in Russia. The Azovs have less than a thousand members. To argue a nation beset by a violent, psychopathic army of rapist murderers should be picky about who they allow to fight in its defense is irrational and just plain dumb. Ukraine is so nazi it elected a Jew as president. Edited February 20 by I am Groot Quote
I am Groot Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 An interesting writeup in the Washington Examiner, which has long been the Right's answer to the Washington Post. The international order that has prevailed since World War II is over. The abandonment of Ukraine is just one manifestation, and not the most dramatic. More striking is the readiness of the United States to make aggressive claims on foreign territory without bothering to snatch up even a legalistic figleaf. That revolution has left the U.S.’s client states stranded, like outlying Roman provinces when there is a vacuum in the metropolis. America’s allies, whether in NATO or in the Pacific, have tended to define themselves geo-strategically as precisely that: America’s allies. Most, for example, have pursued defense procurement on the assumption that they will always be part of a U.S.-led bloc, and so can specialize rather than investing in full-spectrum capacity. That assumption is dead. So are the other assumptions that make up what we think of as the international system. That nations should respect each other’s independence, for example; that the high seas should be open to commerce; that disputes should be settled through peaceful arbitration; that civilian government is preferable to military rule. These rules were sometimes broken, but they were never jettisoned. Until now. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/3319902/we-are-back-to-a-world-of-wars-and-warlords/ Quote
BeaverFever Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 14 hours ago, WestCanMan said: You clearly don't know how or why the war started. FYI this isn't a comic book. Things are a little more complicated than CNN's "Bad man bad, good man good" narrative. I'm saying that every country on earth has a military, except maybe Costa Rica. In addition to that, they mostly have strategic alliances with other countries for their mutual defence. Ukraine and Russia were part of an alliance from the time the Russians pushed the Nazis out until recently, but now the Nazis are making a comeback and Ukraine wants to change sides. Ten years ago I never thought that there would be Nazis in NATO, but here you are supporting it. LMAO those Jewish Nazis! And your narrative is all messed up, Ukraine amd Russia weren’t “part of an alliance”. Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union and ruled by Moscow, first formally and then as a puppet state after the cold war ended. For you to suggest that only a Nazi wouldn’t want to live under Putin’s boot is ridiculous. 1 Quote
BeaverFever Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 (edited) 5 hours ago, WestCanMan said: If you're wondering what I was talking about, it's "people who have Nazi tattoos, wear Nazi insignias on their uniforms, and call themselves 'proud Nazis'." There aren't a lot of people who do that in this day and age, but if they do, and if they're an actual military unit, that's part of a developed nation's regular army, then they're the Azovs in Ukraine. Your BS has been debunked so many times over the years your insistence on repeating it is a testament to the sheer id1ocybof the MAGA cult. 1) Azov started as a citizen resistance movement not a government army 2) Ukraine absorbed and cleaned up Azov and purged it of extremists a decade ago- you’re repeating obsolete propaganda It is now a regular army unit and countless recruits from across the country have cycled through there over the years 3) For you to claim that the entire country up to and including it’s Jewish president are Nazis just because this ONE army unit ONCE had Nazi sympathizers is beyond stupid. I mean MAGA is full of Nazi sympathizers and Trump was endorsed by KKK …are you admitting that all republicans and Trump and therefore Nazis and KKK? Edited February 20 by BeaverFever 1 Quote
BeaverFever Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 15 hours ago, Nationalist said: Lol...Awe...is your precious little war coming to an end? Y'all remind me of a high-school girl who flirts with guys and then gets her bf to beat the poor sap up. You remind me of a high school girl who believes she got gonorrhoea from riding a tractor in her bathing suit 2 Quote
Nationalist Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 4 hours ago, BeaverFever said: You remind me of a high school girl who believes she got gonorrhoea from riding a tractor in her bathing suit Interesting. How long did you think about this response? 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
BeaverFever Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: Interesting. How long did you think about this response? I have long held that opinion of you, due to your obvious gullibility Quote
Nationalist Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 3 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: I have long held that opinion of you, due to your obvious gullibility Ok. And that should mean what to me? Should I be upset that a complete loser thinks I'll of me? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
WestCanMan Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 12 hours ago, I am Groot said: That you aren't able to understand what I write is on you, not I. There are militia groups like that in the United States. Not to mention in Russia. The Azovs have less than a thousand members. To argue a nation beset by a violent, psychopathic army of rapist murderers should be picky about who they allow to fight in its defense is irrational and just plain dumb. They were a Nazi militia group, but they were accepted into Ukraine's military, so now they're a battalion of the Ukrainian army. Quote Ukraine is so nazi it elected a Jew as president. Ukraine is so under America's thumb that they elected a quisling actor to sell them out. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
WestCanMan Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 9 hours ago, BeaverFever said: LMAO those Jewish Nazis! LMAO the ridiculous CNN propaganda. FYI when people say that they're Nazis and get the tattoos, that makes them Nazis. Quote And your narrative is all messed up, Ukraine amd Russia weren’t “part of an alliance”. Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union and ruled by Moscow, first formally and then as a puppet state after the cold war ended. For you to suggest that only a Nazi wouldn’t want to live under Putin’s boot is ridiculous. Russia liberated Ukraine from the Nazis, who were arguably worse than Russia was at the time, but don't forget that Japan and Germany were no better than Russia back then. We didn't treat 1996 Germany like 1936 Germany and 2016 Russia wasn't Stalin's Russia. Ukraine went their own way in the 2000's, their democracy was progressing, but then they went and put a gun to Russia's head and now tens of thousands of people are dead. If you can't admit that NATO in Ukraine is a gun to Russia's head then you're just a hapless cultist liar. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
WestCanMan Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 9 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Your BS has been debunked so many times over the years your insistence on repeating it is a testament to the sheer id1ocybof the MAGA cult. LMAO, collusion boy. I've dummied you so many times that I feel embarrassed for you myself. I honetsly can't believe you still use that username. Quote 1) Azov started as a citizen resistance movement not a government army I never said that they started out in the gov't, dummy. And FYI, that makes it worse, not better. If it was an army unit that gradually spiralled out of control, at first secretly and then openly, that would be more understandable than just welcoming a bunch of full-blown Nazis to join your military as a unit. Quote 2) Ukraine absorbed and cleaned up Azov and purged it of extremists a decade ago- you’re repeating obsolete propaganda It is now a regular army unit and countless recruits from across the country have cycled through there over the years 🤣 They just said: "Cover up your Nazi tattoos when you go to the Pentagon to receive medals." Quote 3) For you to claim that the entire country up to and including it’s Jewish president are Nazis just because this ONE army unit ONCE had Nazi sympathizers is beyond stupid. I mean MAGA is full of Nazi sympathizers and Trump was endorsed by KKK …are you admitting that all republicans and Trump and therefore Nazis and KKK? I never said that 100% of the people in Ukraine are Nazis, just that they're very tolerant of Nazis. Quote just because this ONE army unit ONCE had Nazi sympathizers is beyond stupid. LMAO, you started your post talking about debunking my BS but you just couldn't help yourself, could you... You had to lie because it's who you are, Beave, it's what you do... THEY AREN'T A GROUP THAT "ONCE HAD NAZI SYMPATHIZERS" - THEY ARE A GROUP THAT WAS FORMED OF ACTUAL NAZIS, TO BE NAZIS, WHO USED NAZI EMBLEMS, GOT NAZI TATTOOS, AND TOLD PEOPLE THAT THEY WERE PROUD NAZIS. Don't blame me, Beavey, I'm just the messenger. Quote I mean MAGA is full of Nazi sympathizers and Trump was endorsed by KKK …are you admitting that all republicans and Trump and therefore Nazis and KKK? You're such a worthless, useless, lying piece of shit that it's an embarrassment to all of humanity, Beave. If you claim to being a member of the KKK and endorse Trudeau does that make the LPOC a KKK outfit? Does the fact that every terrorist org on the planet truly and overwhelmingly supported Trudeau make the LPOC an islamic terrorist outfit? Canada's islamic council actually sent out a pamphlet. They put it in ink that all muslims should vote for Trudeau, buddy. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
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