eyeball Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 15 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Well seeing as you know which emergency powers he's talking about go ahead and put those fears to rest and tell us what he's intending He's talking about Canada's Emergencies Act which used to be called the War Measures Act. He intends to use it to deal with a rogue nation that's threatening us with war and annexation. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted February 14 Author Report Posted February 14 8 minutes ago, eyeball said: He's talking about Canada's Emergencies Act which used to be called the War Measures Act. He intends to use it to deal with a rogue nation that's threatening us with war and annexation. How. What liberties will he suspend in order to achieve this? How will he use it so that it will defeat the enemy? You obviously know his intentions, please enlighten us Quote
eyeball Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 2 minutes ago, CdnFox said: How. What liberties will he suspend in order to achieve this? How will he use it so that it will defeat the enemy? You obviously know his intentions, please enlighten us If it was me I'd use them to purchase and distribute millions of assault rifles to Canadian households. I'd also roundup Trump's 5th column and send you all to detention camps in the Arctic. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Aristides Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 (edited) 11 hours ago, CdnFox said: My bad, looks like the link isn't working or visible even though I put it in there and copied from something. Here's a link of him saying it and a couple of other links including the one to the original story. One of them should work. Every now and then the board doesn't seem to want to take links from me. I'm editing the original as well You could have looked that up in 2 seconds yourself so you're still stupid though SNELL: Carney supports 'emergency powers' in US trade war — stoking fears of delayed election One is an opinion piece in the Western Standard. Wow and you say you don't believe anything from the CBC because it is biased, The other is a post on X that specifically says green energy projects with an attached video where he doesn't mention them al all. It isn't up to me to go looking for sources to back up your claims. Government priorities are going to be dictated by what Trump does, regardless of who forms the next government. Edited February 14 by Aristides Quote
Goddess Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 13 hours ago, CdnFox said: But the fact that he's ALREADY talking about using the emergency powers the feds have is nothing short of terrifying. This is how short-sighted the people who cheered on Trudeau invoking the Act against the truckers, are. Once a gov't sees how little it takes and how easy it is to invoke the Act and how many Canadians supported them using it, they will now see it as a tool they can use for anything they want. Invoking the Act was deemed unconstitutional by the courts, and the Liberal gov't is currently appealing that ruling. With your tax $$. 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Goddess Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 9 hours ago, Aristides said: He doesn't say anything about green projects in that statement. He doesn't say what projects at all. That will have to come out in the election campaign. The difference between you and I is I actually listen to what he said, instead of repeating what someone else says he said. Oh please. 🙄 The man is a climate zealot, he's the father of climate alarmism and the carbon tax. His wife is an even bigger climate nut, whom we are already funding with our tax dollars. We all know what "projects" he has in mind, even though he refuses to say when asked outright. Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Aristides Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Goddess said: Oh please. 🙄 The man is a climate zealot, he's the father of climate alarmism and the carbon tax. His wife is an even bigger climate nut, whom we are already funding with our tax dollars. We all know what "projects" he has in mind, even though he refuses to say when asked outright. You read into it what you want, I listen to what the man says. He has said he would get rid of the carbon tax because it is too divisive, which it is, but keep the output based policy on big industrial emitters. He will provide incentives to make green choices, whatever that means. He will have to get much more specific. I'm waiting for the campaign and debates when candidates will have to be more specific and their promises costed, something PP hasn't done to date. Slogans will not be enough. Edited February 14 by Aristides Quote
Goddess Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 2 minutes ago, Aristides said: He has said he would get rid of the carbon tax because it is too divisive, which it is, but keep the output based policy on big industrial emitters. Maybe watch this: 3 minutes ago, Aristides said: I'm waiting for the campaign and debates when candidates will have to be more specific and their promises costed, something PP hasn't done to date. Slogans will not be enough. You're repeating whatever you heard on CBC: "PP has no plans" "Slogans are not enough" Polievre has laid out very specific plans, he's doing interviews all over. They're not being covered by CBC and CTV, and he's likely not interviewing with them after that massive lie they cobbled together recently, which surprisingly, got someone fired. He just laid out a very specific plan to secure our North. You haven't noticed that every time he says what he's going to do about an issue, the Libs steal it? Did you think they came up with the idea of "Axing the Tax" on their own? HAHAHAHHAHA! 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Goddess Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 BTW, Good Morning and Happy Valentine's Day, everyone. 🥰 2 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Aristides Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 22 minutes ago, Goddess said: Maybe watch this: You're repeating whatever you heard on CBC: "PP has no plans" "Slogans are not enough" Polievre has laid out very specific plans, he's doing interviews all over. They're not being covered by CBC and CTV, and he's likely not interviewing with them after that massive lie they cobbled together recently, which surprisingly, got someone fired. He just laid out a very specific plan to secure our North. You haven't noticed that every time he says what he's going to do about an issue, the Libs steal it? Did you think they came up with the idea of "Axing the Tax" on their own? HAHAHAHHAHA! All of them have plans and so far none have been very specific about how they would carry them out or what they would cost. PP included. That is what I am waiting for. Quote
blackbird Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 9 hours ago, eyeball said: The threat of imminent annexation might. If government is defeated by Parliament Canadians have a Constitutional right to an election. If Parliament loses confidence in the government, then they have no right or mandate to hold onto power. That is how our system works. They would then have no mandate to deal with Trump. Slogans that Trump spouts do not qualify as an emergency in Canada. Quote
Aristides Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 Just now, blackbird said: If government is defeated by Parliament Canadians have a Constitutional right to an election. If Parliament loses confidence in the government, then they have no right or mandate to hold onto power. That is how our system works. They would then have no mandate to deal with Trump. Slogans that Trump spouts do not qualify as an emergency in Canada. Trump's slogans don't but his actions certainly may. Quote
blackbird Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 1 hour ago, Aristides said: Trump's slogans don't but his actions certainly may. Tariffs don't qualify as a reason to postpone an election. It might be an emergency to some businesses, but that doesn't qualify as a national emergency. Unless you are liberal crook of course. Quote
Dougie93 Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 10 hours ago, eyeball said: He's talking about Canada's Emergencies Act which used to be called the War Measures Act. He intends to use it to deal with a rogue nation that's threatening us with war and annexation. it would be a good lesson for the Canadian populace now to feel the full weight of the monarchy upon their necks Canada is not a republic ; the Crown effectively wields absolute authority in the event of war Quote
CdnFox Posted February 14 Author Report Posted February 14 10 hours ago, eyeball said: If it was me I'd use them to purchase and distribute millions of assault rifles to Canadian households. If it were you you'd use it to eliminate elections and make justin ruler for life Quote
Aristides Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 29 minutes ago, blackbird said: Tariffs don't qualify as a reason to postpone an election. It might be an emergency to some businesses, but that doesn't qualify as a national emergency. Unless you are liberal crook of course. He didn’t say anything about postponing an election, he said they may be a factor in whether he calls one. The next scheduled election is in October unless the government loses a confidence motion. Quote
CdnFox Posted February 14 Author Report Posted February 14 3 hours ago, Aristides said: One is an opinion piece in the Western Standard. With a video of him actually saying it. You going to try and claim that they think the video? Is there any part of it that you disagree with or believe is not accurate? No? Just once it would be nice to have an honest conversation with you instead of you trying to bullshit your way out of a position you just don't like Quote Wow and you say you don't believe anything from the CBC because it is biased I have never said anything like that in my entire life. I have posted many CBC articles here for discussion. I do not trust the CBC and I try and verify all of their stories but I have never suggested that nothing they say can be believed. Once again, lying about what I've said in order to try and boost your narrative because the truth simply doesn't. Quote , The other is a post on X that specifically says green energy projects with an attached video where he doesn't mention them al all. That's nice. It was the video that was the important thing. The video is quite clear. And all I talked about was his use of emergency powers. I never mentioned a single word about green anything Quote It isn't up to me to go looking for sources to back up your claims. Actually it entirely is. That is how it works now in the day of sea lioning But You didn't ask me to prove my claims, you said there wasn't enough information. So it is 100% your job to go out and find more information if you want to know more. That is literally how it works. I'm not here to educate your dumb ass. Quote Government priorities are going to be dictated by what Trump does, regardless of who forms the next government. He is already planning to use emergency powers. Those are the powers we use to suspend law and human rights. Trudeau already illegally used the emergency powers act once, and these are the same liberals who voted for that. I don't care if you're on the right or the left that should be VERY concerning for you yet here you are defending it Quote
CdnFox Posted February 14 Author Report Posted February 14 5 minutes ago, Aristides said: He didn’t say anything about postponing an election, he said they may be a factor in whether he calls one. The next scheduled election is in October unless the government loses a confidence motion. Or unless the house votes against his gov't. They HAVE to call the house back, and the other parties have already said they'd bring him down. So ONE use of the powers is to stop confidents votes to deal with the 'crisis'. And the law allows for them to change the next election date till fall of 2026 if they wish. Those are simple facts. Bottom line if he's already talking about using the emergency powers available then every single canadian should be afraid. Quote
Aristides Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 3 minutes ago, CdnFox said: With a video of him actually saying it. You going to try and claim that they think the video? Is there any part of it that you disagree with or believe is not accurate? No? Just once it would be nice to have an honest conversation with you instead of you trying to bullshit your way out of a position you just don't like I have never said anything like that in my entire life. I have posted many CBC articles here for discussion. I do not trust the CBC and I try and verify all of their stories but I have never suggested that nothing they say can be believed. Once again, lying about what I've said in order to try and boost your narrative because the truth simply doesn't. That's nice. It was the video that was the important thing. The video is quite clear. And all I talked about was his use of emergency powers. I never mentioned a single word about green anything Actually it entirely is. That is how it works now in the day of sea lioning But You didn't ask me to prove my claims, you said there wasn't enough information. So it is 100% your job to go out and find more information if you want to know more. That is literally how it works. I'm not here to educate your dumb ass. He is already planning to use emergency powers. Those are the powers we use to suspend law and human rights. Trudeau already illegally used the emergency powers act once, and these are the same liberals who voted for that. I don't care if you're on the right or the left that should be VERY concerning for you yet here you are defending it Of course it would be concerning. PP is also going on about using the notwithstanding clause but that doesn’t seem to bother you. Quote
CdnFox Posted February 14 Author Report Posted February 14 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Aristides said: Of course it would be concerning. PP is also going on about using the notwithstanding clause but that doesn’t seem to bother you. There's absolutely no comparison. The not withstanding clause was always intended to be used to deal with legislation where the government determines the charter created an unintended consequence, that's why it was put in there. HE'll be using it precisely as it was intended to be. It's been used many many times. That's the reason it's there. It's used in very specific cases which must be spelled out in detail, and it goes along with a bill through the usual process of scruitiny in both the house and the senate. The emergency powers act and the other emergency powers granted to the gov't are entirely different and we've already seen this gov't use them once unlawfully. You can't challenge them in court before they're used as you could a bill passing through parlaiment. You can't get an injunction to suspend their implementation pending a court challenge. So basically you're fine with the gov't setting aside the rights of Canadians at large for political gain as long as its the liberals because the notwithstanding clause exists. That's just pathetic. Edited February 14 by CdnFox 2 Quote
Nationalist Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 QUESTION: What trade war? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Dougie93 Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 10 hours ago, eyeball said: If it was me I'd use them to purchase and distribute millions of assault rifles to Canadian households. I'd also roundup Trump's 5th column and send you all to detention camps in the Arctic. right wing paramilitary militias ftw careful what you wish for, lefties Quote
Goddess Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 2 hours ago, Aristides said: PP included. That is what I am waiting for. Well, you're going to be waiting a long time because his plans will not and have not been covered by the MSM. Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Aristides Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 36 minutes ago, Goddess said: Well, you're going to be waiting a long time because his plans will not and have not been covered by the MSM. That's not true but then you wouldn't know because you never use it. He will also have plenty of opportunity during debates. Quote
herbie Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 The MSM hasn't covered PP's plans as he doesn't have any real plans. Just slogans and misinformed opinions of Liberal ones. They can't cover what's not there. Quote
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