Popular Post blackbird Posted February 5 Popular Post Report Posted February 5 (edited) This would not have to be a forced removal of people from the Gaza. The west would in effect be purchasing the Gaza. This would go a long way to ending the conflict in that area. I don't see any other way to stop the fighting originating in the Gaza strip. 1. It could be done by offering financial incentives. Every Palestinian who moves could be paid a certain amount of money. The money could come from the U.S., Canada, other countries, and the U.N. 2. The money could also involve spending billions of dollars to build apartments, and create jobs in the countries they settle in. 3. It seems Hamas cannot be eliminated in the present situation. However, moving them by offering financial incentive may provide a solution. This would mean it would not be compulsory but would be in effect purchasing the Gaza strip. So far nobody in the news media has mentioned the idea of paying billions of dollars to the Palestinians to make it feasible. Part of the payments would have to be used to build apartments and create jobs. All of the money would not be given to the Palestinians directly. Some money could be paid directly to the ones who actually move. Part of the money would have to be retained and only used for the purpose of building new apartments, infrastructure, creating jobs, and communities in the destination countries. At present Jordan and Egypt oppose moving them to their countries. But the financial benefits have not been negotiated. That is the missing key to this. Perhaps if there was billions of dollars on the table, they would be willing to take in the Palestinians. But there would need to be a way to ensure the money was used only for the relocation and building of the homes, infrastructure, and jobs for the Palestinians. Also, the payments to the ones who relocated would have to be ensured somehow. The money could not be just handed over to the countries they moved into. Edited February 5 by blackbird 7 Quote
herbie Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 You are madder in the head than Trump himself. 4 Quote
Aristides Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 Do you think Hamas would treat Americans any differently from Israelis if they took over Gaza. Sounds like a good place for young Americans can die so Trump can build some hotels. 1 1 Quote
herbie Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 Is Gaza big enough to make 18 holes or will he settle for a pitch & putt? 1 1 Quote
blackbird Posted February 5 Author Report Posted February 5 2 hours ago, Aristides said: Do you think Hamas would treat Americans any differently from Israelis if they took over Gaza. Sounds like a good place for young Americans can die so Trump can build some hotels. If the whole population of 2 million were moved out of Gaza to some Arab country, then Hamas would not be there would they? Quote
Army Guy Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 2 hours ago, herbie said: Is Gaza big enough to make 18 holes or will he settle for a pitch & putt? It should be the world's' dirt largest parking lot... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Queenmandy85 Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 (edited) It was a mistake to put Israel into Palestine. A better move would be to move Israel to Oregon and allow the Palestinians to reclaim their land. Oregon has a similar climate and the neighbours would be more welcoming. Edited February 5 by Queenmandy85 2 Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
Army Guy Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 11 minutes ago, blackbird said: If the whole population of 2 million were moved out of Gaza to some Arab country, then Hamas would not be there would they? Palestinians will always be part of some terrorist group, regardless of where they are in the world....Thats why Arab countries don't want them, they are nothing but trouble.... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
blackbird Posted February 6 Author Report Posted February 6 5 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Palestinians will always be part of some terrorist group, regardless of where they are in the world....Thats why Arab countries don't want them, they are nothing but trouble.... If another country like Jordan or Egypt allows itself to be used as a base for a terrorist group, then that is on them and they must accept the consequences. The thing is the government of those countries can choose to ban any terrorist group from operating on their territory and they have the military to do it. The idea is to eliminate any terrorist groups from operating. As it is now, Hamas blends in with the population of Gaza and is made of Palestinians so it is impossible to get rid of them in the Gaza strip as Israel well knows. If they were relocated to another country, then it would then be that country's responsibility to deal with them. Quote
Army Guy Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 1 minute ago, Queenmandy85 said: It was a mistake to put Isreal into Palistine. A better move would be to move Israel to Oregon and allow the Palistinians to reclaim their land. Oregon has a similar climate and the neighbours would be more welcoming. You should fact check this... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Queenmandy85 Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 7 minutes ago, Army Guy said: You should fact check this... Would you like to elaborate? Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
Army Guy Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 15 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said: Would you like to elaborate? Sure show me on a map where palestine was and who had control over it. Your making the claim it was palestinians which it was not.... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
ExFlyer Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 20 hours ago, blackbird said: This would not have to be a forced removal of people from the Gaza. The west would in effect be purchasing the Gaza. ...... Proof positive that you are F'n nuts!! LOL Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
herbie Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 Another supporter of ethnic cleansing who gets all upset at being pointed out as a fascist. 1 Quote
Aristides Posted February 6 Report Posted February 6 23 hours ago, blackbird said: If the whole population of 2 million were moved out of Gaza to some Arab country, then Hamas would not be there would they? Wanna bet? 1 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 This isn't a serious idea. Let's just say that and move on. Trump's own people are walking this back... Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
herbie Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 This is another example of just how demented Diaper Donnie is - posting that Israel cna "give" the USA and they can move the citizens to some other unconsulted country and the USA will "own" it and make it beautiful. The man cannot distinguish between his vicious capitalistic ideas and politics whatdoever, thinking countries can be bought and sold like real estate and hostile takeovers are 'good' if they're in his favour. The end result of the m0ronic thinking that govt should be run like a business. Quote
blackbird Posted February 7 Author Report Posted February 7 6 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: This isn't a serious idea. Since you pour cold water on anybody else's ideas, what would you propose to end the conflict in the middle east? Or would you rather just sit back and be critical of anything anybody else says? Just now, herbie said: This is another example of just how demented Diaper Donnie is - posting that Israel cna "give" the USA and they can move the citizens to some other unconsulted country and the USA will "own" it and make it beautiful. The man cannot distinguish between his vicious capitalistic ideas and politics whatdoever, thinking countries can be bought and sold like real estate and hostile takeovers are 'good' if they're in his favour. The end result of the m0ronic thinking that govt should be run like a business. So tell us how you would solve the wars against Israel?? Quote
herbie Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 Thinking you or i or the President of the USA could 'solve' their problems is the thinking of a simple mind. Their problem to 'solve' Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 10 minutes ago, blackbird said: 1. Since you pour cold water on anybody else's ideas, what would you propose to end the conflict in the middle east? 2. Or would you rather just sit back and be critical of anything anybody else says? 3. So tell us how you would solve the wars against Israel?? 1. Unlike Trump, I don't have the ego to push dumb ideas as miracle solutions. 2. Two state solution is on the books as the agreed upon direction for many nations, observers, commenters including from Israel. 3. Just because I disagree with an insane idea, doesn't mean I owe you my own insane idea. It's not serious. If it were, his own team wouldn't be disagreeing with it. 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Barquentine Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 11 minutes ago, blackbird said: what would you propose to end the conflict in the middle east? Yeah, right. If any of us knew how do that we wouldn't be here scribbling away just to pass time. 1 Quote
blackbird Posted February 7 Author Report Posted February 7 40 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: 2. Two state solution is on the books as the agreed upon direction for many nations, observers, commenters including from Israel. Israel does not agree to a two-state solution. Think you better look into that. Just because many countries think that is a good idea, doesn't mean it is practical or would work. The idea of carving up a country which is already very small, and giving a large chunk of it to their enemies would be suicide for Israel. They will never agree with that for obvious reasons. Do you seriously think the Palestinian terrorist would suddenly stop attacking Israel if Israel were carved up? Are you not aware Palestinians do not believe Israel has any right to exist? Can you give an honest answer? Quote
blackbird Posted February 7 Author Report Posted February 7 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Barquentine said: Yeah, right. If any of us knew how do that we wouldn't be here scribbling away just to pass time. It is strange then that Herbie Michael, and Aristides have no idea what a solution would look like, but they are sure my suggestion is not feasible. They admit they have no idea but are sure I am wrong. No surprise there. Edited February 7 by blackbird Quote
blackbird Posted February 7 Author Report Posted February 7 Money speaks louder than anything else. Anybody should know that. Quote
Aristides Posted February 7 Report Posted February 7 22 minutes ago, blackbird said: Money speaks louder than anything else. Anybody should know that. Actually it doesn't, that is something Trump (and you) need to understand. Quote
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