It's official, Tariffs on Canada and Mexico to start Saturday

[CdnFox]

Just now, godzilla said:

so now you are blaming everyone who does not champion the fabricated "hard right" ideological fantasy for Trump?!!!

Yep.  Well done. 

Here's a short video that explains exactly how that works in an amusing little skit. 

Oh and by the way? this is an old video.  Pretty prophetic i would say. 

 

3 minutes ago, godzilla said:

Trump, the "hard right" hard on? the guy you have been masturbating over for years?

Oh look, more sexual fantasies. 

Every single time if you try and have a reasonable conversation with someone on the left this is what it boils down to.

And at the end of the day that means that you leave people no choice but to go for their other option.

If the left was reasonable. If the left listened to other people's concerns. If the left had something in their head other than weird sexual fantasies, then people might feel comfortable choosing left of center leaders.

But they don't and this is exactly why.

[godzilla]

5 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

It should be noted that Smith threw all other Alberta industries (agriculture, manufacturing, etc) under the bus. She is and has always been an Oil Lobbyist, who just happens to be Premier.

and every other premier before. the oil companies own Alberta. every attempt to diversify their economy has been met with absolute resistance.

i'm always reminded of the time the NDP granted $10 million to AI research and industry seed money headed by the U of A because that university was bleeding edge at the time. when Jason Kenney got in he cancelled the whole thing. thank god! we all know what a waste of money that would have been! hahaha!

no, oil companies need all the subsidies. thats the only way to keep Alberta a one trick pony and thus a dog on a leash.

[CdnFox]

Just now, godzilla said:

and every other premier before. the oil companies own Alberta. every attempt to diversify their economy has been met with absolute resistance.

i'm always reminded of the time the NDP granted $10 million to AI research and industry seed money headed by the U of A because that university was bleeding edge at the time. when Jason Kenney got in he cancelled the whole thing. thank god! we all know what a waste of money that would have been! hahaha!

no, oil companies need all the subsidies. thats the only way to keep Alberta a one trick pony and thus a dog on a leash.

Too bad the liberals spent all those billions nerfing it. Looks like they really could have used that industry now as a tool against trump but seeing as they deliberately stunted it so that it only has one customer it would be very hard on Alberta to make that happen.

Besides according to Trudeau There's No Business case for oil and gas  

[godzilla]

6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Yep.  Well done. 

Here's a short video that explains exactly how that works in an amusing little skit. 

Oh and by the way? this is an old video.  Pretty prophetic i would say. 

 

Oh look, more sexual fantasies. 

Every single time if you try and have a reasonable conversation with someone on the left this is what it boils down to.

And at the end of the day that means that you leave people no choice but to go for their other option.

If the left was reasonable. If the left listened to other people's concerns. If the left had something in their head other than weird sexual fantasies, then people might feel comfortable choosing left of center leaders.

But they don't and this is exactly why.

yeah i know. the old anti DEI claim that meritocracy isn't included in the equation. its absolutely necessary that anti DEI types believe this. its IMPLIED. its the false proposition to the argument that MUST exist for it to be believed.

in the anti DEI world there is no number of applicants that are of different races and sexes who are equally qualified... because white males are the only ones who could possibly be qualified! right?

i never participated in DEI in my hiring practices but i certainly interviewed lots of white males who could not do the job as well as some non white females! i know you're wincing! that can't be true! right?

except there is NOTHING in corporate DEI plans that does not ensure that applicants are qualified to meet employment expectations. nobody runs a business like that. NOBODY.

but whatever. at least you are finally admitting that TRUMP is INSANE. you just refuse to admit that its actually "the right" that are responsible!!! hilarious!! yep, "the right" were too stupid to figure it out. they are so daft that they were so easily hoodwinked into voting in Trump... by the left! TRUMP WAS VOTED INTO OFFICE BY THE LEFT! hilarious!!

[Legato]

3 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said:

We all agree that you Canadian Trumpers will go down in history as the stupidest losers ever.

Who is we? Do you mean yourself and the 69 alter egos?

Where's the pied piper when you need him.

[godzilla]

as usual, i like to note that the TRADE WAR doesn't even register at the Fox News website. while its clearly the top story on every other website from every other news organization on the earth.

nothing to see here! hilarious!

 

[herbie]

1 hour ago, Legato said:

Canadian Trumpers will go down in history as the stupidest losers

No I don't. F*cking traitors to their country, Quslings, collaborators would be their dictionary definition. Stupid is offering them an excuse for their actions.

[Legato]

3 minutes ago, herbie said:

No I don't. F*cking traitors to their country, Quslings, collaborators would be their dictionary definition. Stupid is offering them an excuse for their actions.

Not my quote, the rest needs an Ewokese translator.

[godzilla]

9 minutes ago, Legato said:

Not my quote, the rest needs an Ewokese translator.

traitor.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, godzilla said:

 

and he was NOT. at least you admit it.

 

I literally just said he was. So did America. That's how much of a loser you guys are, compared to you trump is good. And instead of trying to figure out how to get better you guys waste your time purposefully misreading what was said I'm looking like children

2 hours ago, godzilla said:

he only "looked like the better choice" for the stupid

Only stupid people would delude themselves to think that.

The democrats and the left should be doing some serious self-reflection right now. Instead you're calling everybody else stupid. Yeah, that'll really win them over.

[Chrissy1979]

18 hours ago, West said:

I hope to hell we finally get an investigation into Trudeau. You just know he's a fraudster like Joe Biden. All part of the same tree. 

You can't just turn off Canadian oil. You realize how long it takes to shut down a plant, right? 

Trump acquired billions in grift from selling Trumpcoin right before his inauguration, so you have to pretend others are as corrupt as you guys? I don't think you're fooling anyone anymore, seeing as you've already lost any credibility you ever had.

[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Trump acquired billions in grift from selling Trumpcoin right before his inauguration, so you have to pretend others are as corrupt as you guys? I don't think you're fooling anyone anymore, seeing as you've already lost any credibility you ever had.

Selling something isn't corruption. You can call it mildly exploitive but he didn't do anything illegal immoral or wrong.

Anything is wrong to just sell something then I guess you're going to have to go arrest all of the stores in America as well LOL honestly what a thing to say. Only a communist would claim selling something is morally wrong. 

[Legato]

43 minutes ago, godzilla said:

traitor.

To who or what?

[Radiorum]

Trump peddled his lie about how other countries would pay for the tariffs. His supporters were too stupid to know this was a lie, or else they didn't care, in their mass exultation of their cult leader.

But when Trump makes the same lie to an economic forum, to a group of people who know that it is a lie, that seems proof positive that his game is only to perform for his base. His game is only to support his brand. He doesn't care about the American worker. His audience is his base, his only concern is his brand.

 

[herbie]

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Radiorum said:

Trump peddled his lie about how other countries would pay for the tariffs. His supporters were too stupid to know this was a lie, or else they didn't care, in their mass exultation of their cult leader.

But when Trump makes the same lie to an economic forum, to a group of people who know that it is a lie, that seems proof positive that his game is only to perform for his base. His game is only to support his brand. He doesn't care about the American worker. His audience is his base, his only concern is his brand.

 

why would any of this surprise you? Virtually every American politician speaks to their base or to the people they wish to win over. Biden Harley opened his mouth without lying and that was from a teleprompter. Nancy Pelosi would be able to draw her name on the moon if her nose grew every time she lied like Pinocchio. They give these speeches not for the people listening to them but for the people at home and for the newspapers who will clip out sound bites they like and quotes they find amusing and that's what will get shared.

Trump wants a trade deal. He was always mad that he didn't get access to Canada's dairy and poultry Industries which are protected against America in order to make sure that our markets never become dependent on America (which trump is proving is absolutely necessary ironically),  And he wants access to things like our telecommunications and so on and so forth. These things are locked in Canada because we don't want to be dependent on other nations, but it does mean the Americans can't compete and trump does not like that.

Trump also wants manufacturing jobs back in America. He basically wants to convince all manufacturers that if they're not doing their Manufacturing in America alone Then they might suddenly one day discover that they're out of business. You watch, the automotive industry in the states is going to stop making cars within a couple weeks. Even if trump turns the tops back on he will be looking to them to move more of their operations to the states.

Same goes for Mexico and to a degree china. He sees those as the three biggest job Stealers from American jobs and he wants the jobs back.

That is what this is about and he's going to say whatever he needs to to make sure the American public supports that

[herbie]

 

[eyeball]

12 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Even if there is a legitimate point or a fair warning that should be discussed it's buried in this kind of crap and nobody wants to hear what you have to say anymore after that.

Everybody hates a reformed troll.

[CdnFox]

9 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Everybody hates a reformed troll.

Oh i don't know if i'd call him REFORMED.....  

[Radiorum]

7 hours ago, CdnFox said:

That is what this is about and he's going to say whatever he needs to to make sure the American public supports that

Then why has Trump's main justification for the tariffs been to stop the flow of illegal fentanyl? And it is to this "national emergency" he says he is reacting.

This of course has caused more lies from him - 

On Inauguration Day, Trump said foreign drug cartels are "killing 250,000 [or] 300,000 American people per year." On Friday, White House spokesperson Karoline Leavitt said tariffs are warranted because fentanyl has "killed tens of millions of Americans."

The actual number is much, much lower. And there is nothing more than a trickle of fentanyl coming from Canada (estimated at less than 1% of the total fentanyl that reaches the US). Canada plays virtually no role in the fentanyl crisis in the US.

The economics of Trump's trade war will harm all concerned. He's already loudly proclaimed he wants to make us the 51st state, and would use economic force to do it. This is another power ploy from him.

I find your excusing and justifying his lies so he can bully Canada reprehensible.

People in the know know that what Trump is doing makes no economic sense. From the Wall Street Journal:

The Dumbest Trade War in History

Trump will impose 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico for no good reason.

 

 

 

[Radiorum]

12 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

The economics of Trump's trade war will harm all concerned

 

12 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

that what Trump is doing makes no economic sense

 

• For the U.S. economy, tariffs will be escalating costs on roughly 40% of imported goods across three major economic regions, amounting to roughly 5% of GDP. Six months of tariffs at this level could see the economy grind to a halt. To put some figures behind this, during Trump's first term that skewed tariffs more heavily to China, the impact hit about $360 billion in imports. Today that figure is crossing $1.3 trillion.
• For Canada's economy, the situation is worse. Our calculations show if these tariffs are sustained for 5 to 6 months, it would officially tip the domestic economy into recession, albeit a relatively shallow one at that point. Further duration would naturally deepen the contraction. Likewise, the unemployment rate would cross the 7% threshold within that six-month period, instead of our baseline scenario from mid-December that saw it fall to 6.4%.

https://economics.td.com/ca-trump-tariffs-2025

[BeaverFever]

21 hours ago, Nationalist said:

He has harsh words for Alberta. Oh the shame...

Beave...Albertans could give a rat's a55 what Libbies like you think. They're obviously tired of being mugged by Ontario and Quebec.

Perhaps it's time Alberta...and Saskatchewan...we're treated equally and with some respect?

I could give a rats ass what RWNJs like Smith thinks.  They are treated with respect their politicians are just radical , they’ve replaced Quebec as the new problem child of Confederation 

[Nationalist]

1 minute ago, BeaverFever said:

I could give a rats ass what RWNJs like Smith thinks.  They are treated with respect their politicians are just radical , they’ve replaced Quebec as the new problem child of Confederation 

Ya except they command a lot more wealth.

[Radiorum]

Here’s a little lesson in economics, beginning with these two facts:

1.       The no. 1 brand of beer in the US is the Mexican beer Modelo. (It overtook Bud Light for 1st place in 2023).

2.       The top US export market for barley is Mexico. 75% of the barley exports from the US go there.

The 25% tariff on Modelo will now increase the cost of this imported good in the US. American brewers will see that they can increase their price, too, by less of course, and still increase their market share.

The increased price of beer causes its demand to go down. Less beer overall is sold. The demand for barley goes down, decreasing its price, as well as profits and wages in that sector.

It’s not good for anyone.

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This is why developing countries that tried, after 1945, to bulldoze their way to industrialization using high tariffs—Argentina under Juan Perón; India under Jawaharlal Nehru—ended up instead isolating themselves from world markets. The tariffs did allow them to make their own radio sets and cars, but at the price of lowering national incomes and so shrinking the domestic market for those radios and cars. And, of course, the protected radios and cars could not compete on global markets against the superior products of the countries that accepted world prices, such as Germany and Japan.

The Price America Will Pay for Trump’s Tariffs

Alienating allies and partners that the U.S. desperately needs means that “America First” will be “America Alone.”

[Nationalist]

17 hours ago, herbie said:

No I don't. F*cking traitors to their country, Quslings, collaborators would be their dictionary definition. Stupid is offering them an excuse for their actions.