Army Guy Posted January 28 Report Posted January 28 Yes The liberal government has decided on importing Russia oil despite a western ban on anything Russian. I just wonder those on this forum and other media sources who's been accusing Other Canadians as traitors to Canada and yet no one is talking the liberal government making deals to import Russian oil....And we wonder WHY our international reputation is in question, why we are consider an unreliable allied in NATO , Why does our nation even have a need fo Russian oil, when there are hundreds of sources that are far more politically correct....Canada is reportedly fully supporting Ukraine, by sending arms and funding, and yet it the Liberals know that Russia is supporting it's war effort through it's selling oil.... I guess we will do anything for money as long as your a liberal.......It looks like Justin is deliberately trying to sabotage what is left of our good standing before he goes..... Liberal voters should be proud, It is time for a new conservative government https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/russia-oil-canada-sanctions-1.7432083 2 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Dougie93 Posted January 28 Report Posted January 28 Canada has long been a de facto friend of the Kremlin simply by Canada being the weakest link in NATO; since the Liberals destroyed the once proud Canadian military Quote
Moonbox Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 8 hours ago, Army Guy said: Yes The liberal government has decided on importing Russia oil despite a western ban on anything Russian. Yep, that's what they decided to do. That's what the article you linked said... Oh wait...🙄 2 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Aristides Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 The Liberals decided no such thing but they should close the loophole that is allowing companies to get away with it. 3 Quote
myata Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 (edited) 19 hours ago, Army Guy said: The liberal government has decided on importing Russia oil despite a western ban on anything Russian. Let me guess: you're watching Fox News right? It's just a guess but it would be one simple and perfect explanation. Did I get it right? Fox News: we make lies look just like truth Edited January 29 by myata Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
paradox34 Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 20 hours ago, Army Guy said: Yes The liberal government has decided on importing Russia oil despite a western ban on anything Russian. I just wonder those on this forum and other media sources who's been accusing Other Canadians as traitors to Canada and yet no one is talking the liberal government making deals to import Russian oil....And we wonder WHY our international reputation is in question, why we are consider an unreliable allied in NATO , Why does our nation even have a need fo Russian oil, when there are hundreds of sources that are far more politically correct....Canada is reportedly fully supporting Ukraine, by sending arms and funding, and yet it the Liberals know that Russia is supporting it's war effort through it's selling oil.... I guess we will do anything for money as long as your a liberal.......It looks like Justin is deliberately trying to sabotage what is left of our good standing before he goes..... Liberal voters should be proud, It is time for a new conservative government https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/russia-oil-canada-sanctions-1.7432083 When's the election! These intellectual midgets need to be given the boot! Quote
herbie Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 5 hours ago, myata said: Let me guess: you're watching Fox News right? No he's reading 'leftist' CBC reports like a Fox News reporter to twist and claim black is white. Quote
Moonbox Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 8 minutes ago, herbie said: No he's reading 'leftist' CBC reports like a Fox News reporter to twist and claim black is white. This is pretty standard fare for the guy at this point. There's obviously something to the story - something even to be annoyed or angry about, but the consistency with which the guy misrepresents (or misunderstands?) the sources he quotes is astounding. 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Army Guy Posted January 29 Author Report Posted January 29 5 hours ago, myata said: Let me guess: you're watching Fox News right? It's just a guess but it would be one simple and perfect explanation. Did I get it right? Fox News: we make lies look just like truth To be honest i don't watch FOX, but normally get my news from CTV or CBC ....Actually i left a post on this forum and the source was from CBC actually....you should read it Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted January 29 Author Report Posted January 29 9 hours ago, Aristides said: The Liberals decided no such thing but they should close the loophole that is allowing companies to get away with it. Quote Millions of dollars worth of Russian oil is coming into Canada thanks to a loophole in federal sanctions, providing much-needed income for the Kremlin to fuel its ongoing invasion of Ukraine. It was Liberal policy that left the loophole in the first place, lets not place the blame on them for poor work lets blame the guy that posted the link.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Moonbox Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 11 minutes ago, Army Guy said: To be honest i don't watch FOX, but normally get my news from CTV or CBC ....Actually i left a post on this forum and the source was from CBC actually....you should read it We did read it. That's how we know it doesn't say what you said it did. I'm not sure if you're actually that dishonest, or if you're just too drunk on your own Kool-Aid that you can't post a citation without confusing yourself and getting it wrong. Either way, it's uncanny how consistently you're misrepresenting your sources and citations. If making sure you have zero credibility was your goal, well done. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Army Guy Posted January 29 Author Report Posted January 29 15 minutes ago, Moonbox said: This is pretty standard fare for the guy at this point. There's obviously something to the story - something even to be annoyed or angry about, but the consistency with which the guy misrepresents (or misunderstands?) the sources he quotes is astounding. 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Political Smash Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 On 1/28/2025 at 3:05 PM, Army Guy said: Yes The liberal government has decided on importing Russia oil despite a western ban on anything Russian. I just wonder those on this forum and other media sources who's been accusing Other Canadians as traitors to Canada and yet no one is talking the liberal government making deals to import Russian oil....And we wonder WHY our international reputation is in question, why we are consider an unreliable allied in NATO , Why does our nation even have a need fo Russian oil, when there are hundreds of sources that are far more politically correct....Canada is reportedly fully supporting Ukraine, by sending arms and funding, and yet it the Liberals know that Russia is supporting it's war effort through it's selling oil.... I guess we will do anything for money as long as your a liberal.......It looks like Justin is deliberately trying to sabotage what is left of our good standing before he goes..... Liberal voters should be proud, It is time for a new conservative government https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/russia-oil-canada-sanctions-1.7432083 Libs screwing Canada = tyranny and treason. Quote
myata Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 13 hours ago, Army Guy said: you should read it I did and it said nothing about Liberals decision to import sanctioned oil. What a mystery. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Aristides Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 (edited) 18 hours ago, Army Guy said: It was Liberal policy that left the loophole in the first place, lets not place the blame on them for poor work lets blame the guy that posted the link.... Posting the link is fine but your thread title doesn't reflect what it said. There was no government decision to import Russian oil but they do need to close a loophole that is allowing it to come from refineries in countries where it isn't sanctioned. Edited January 30 by Aristides 1 Quote
Moonbox Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 (edited) Which something like 5 people have already told him, but he still somehow doesn't see the problem.... Edited January 30 by Moonbox Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Army Guy Posted January 30 Author Report Posted January 30 Moonbox is right, i did not fully read the source and jumped to conclusions, i will in the future try to take more care... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
CdnFox Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Moonbox is right, i did not fully read the source and jumped to conclusions, i will in the future try to take more care... I don't know if you were really that far off though. The government had to be aware of this. They know their allowing imports in the petroleum products from these countries and they know that those countries aren't producing the oil themselves that they're buying it from somewhere. It was very hard for me to believe that they didn't know they were buying Russian oil products when they were sourcing this even if technically someone mixed it with other oil products and refined it first. If they know a loophole exists and they allow it to be exploited without shutting it down then are they not in fact making a decision for Russian oil to be used in Canada? Unless they're going to claim that they were completely unaware of this loophole at all which seems impossible then they did consciously make good decision to allow this to continue and your original statement is correct. I see nothing in the article that suggests that the government didn't have access to the same information. It seems like they just willfully turned a blind eye to it over the last few years and that is a decision Edited January 30 by CdnFox 1 Quote
herbie Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 As usual someone lies and posts shit totally backwards. "Canada" does not import oil. Good conservative, free enterprise capitalist companies produce, import, refine and market all oil and it's products. "Canada" takes bids and purchases products from the winner. Not from Russians Quote
CdnFox Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 1 hour ago, herbie said: As usual someone lies and posts shit totally backwards. "Canada" does not import oil. Ahem... Crude Petroleum in Canada | The Observatory of Economic Complexity Canada imports Crude Petroleum primarily from: United States ($11.8B), Saudi Arabia ($2.38B), Nigeria ($1.11B), Angola ($545M), and Norway ($486M). The fastest growing import markets in Crude Petroleum for Canada between 2021 and 2022 were United States ($4.15B), Saudi Arabia ($868M), and Angola ($138M). Even if individual companies are the vehicles for that they are still extremely regulated by the Canadian government and only take action with Canada's permission. Canada is responsible for their activities as a result. Canada has agreed to ban Russian oil products and petroleum products, however Canada is apparently knowingly allowing the importation of such products through third parties. In doing so we are funding a war effort against a Country whose war effort we are also funding. Worse a country that even to this day is committing war crimes of a pretty serious nature, presumably with weapons but at least in part with Canadian money That is pretty stupid. Quote
Army Guy Posted January 31 Author Report Posted January 31 5 hours ago, herbie said: As usual someone lies and posts shit totally backwards. "Canada" does not import oil. Good conservative, free enterprise capitalist companies produce, import, refine and market all oil and it's products. "Canada" takes bids and purchases products from the winner. Not from Russians It was not my intention to post LIE's , i have also maned up and apologize what more do you want a pound of flesh....it is more than any one on the left has given... and we do import oil just not directly from Russia intentional. but according to the source Russian oil has made it to our shores... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Moonbox Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 14 hours ago, Army Guy said: It was not my intention to post LIE's , i have also maned up and apologize what more do you want a pound of flesh....it is more than any one on the left has given... Openly acknowledging a mistake and apologizing for it puts you miles above a large portion of the mob, but it only counts for so much when you keep repeating it over and over. The fact that you're posting hot-takes on links and cites you haven't even read is damning, but it's only a symptom of the problem. There exists a universe where Justin Trudeau and his government can be acknowledged and regarded as the disaster they've obviously been without automatically believing every mis/dis-informed hot-take that shows up on your news feed. It's not like you sit there reading CBC news all day, so we can only speculate at what led you to conclude that Justin and his gang of bozos were deciding to buy Russian oil... Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
CdnFox Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 3 hours ago, Moonbox said: Openly acknowledging a mistake and apologizing for it puts you miles above a large portion of the mob, but it only counts for so much when you keep repeating it over and over. The fact that you're posting hot-takes on links and cites you haven't even read is damning, but it's only a symptom of the problem. There exists a universe where Justin Trudeau and his government can be acknowledged and regarded as the disaster they've obviously been without automatically believing every mis/dis-informed hot-take that shows up on your news feed. It's not like you sit there reading CBC news all day, so we can only speculate at what led you to conclude that Justin and his gang of bozos were deciding to buy Russian oil... Sigh, so there you go @Army Guy, if you apologize the left is going to punish you and say you're a bad guy anyway. And if we're being honest your headline was actually more true than not. The gov't is allowing russians to back door their products into Canada and that is a decision they made and continue with today. The far left today has no soul or mercy to it. Quote
betsy Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 On 1/28/2025 at 3:05 PM, Army Guy said: Yes The liberal government has decided on importing Russia oil despite a western ban on anything Russian. I just wonder those on this forum and other media sources who's been accusing Other Canadians as traitors to Canada and yet no one is talking the liberal government making deals to import Russian oil....And we wonder WHY our international reputation is in question, why we are consider an unreliable allied in NATO , Why does our nation even have a need fo Russian oil, when there are hundreds of sources that are far more politically correct....Canada is reportedly fully supporting Ukraine, by sending arms and funding, and yet it the Liberals know that Russia is supporting it's war effort through it's selling oil.... I guess we will do anything for money as long as your a liberal.......It looks like Justin is deliberately trying to sabotage what is left of our good standing before he goes..... Liberal voters should be proud, It is time for a new conservative government https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/russia-oil-canada-sanctions-1.7432083 Oh, boy! And yet, here we are funding Ukraine with her war with Russia. 😁 Insanity reigns. Quote
Army Guy Posted February 1 Author Report Posted February 1 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: Sigh, so there you go @Army Guy, if you apologize the left is going to punish you and say you're a bad guy anyway. And if we're being honest your headline was actually more true than not. The gov't is allowing russians to back door their products into Canada and that is a decision they made and continue with today. The far left today has no soul or mercy to it. No, i has nothing to do with the left, i did not completely understand the article, and jumped to some conclusions for that i manned up and apologized. It was not my finest hour....I'm not afraid to realize my mistakes.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
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