Chrystia Freeland calls for summit of nations targeted by Trump

Dougie93 · February 1

11 hours ago, eyeball said:

Hundreds of billions worth before Poilievre's first term is up if he's even half serious.

we'll see.

because you're only buying a bunch of American military hardware as fast as possible,

if you are trying to appease Trump

but if you are in a Trump War, the money will have to be spent in Canada

Aristides · February 1

28 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

we'll see.

because you're only buying a bunch of American military hardware as fast as possible,

if you are trying to appease Trump

but if you are in a Trump War, the money will have to be spent in Canada

I think we should start sourcing outside the US when possible.

betsy · February 1

On 1/28/2025 at 2:54 PM, suds said:

Plain stupid. According to Professor Ian Lee of Carleton University, the main trade irritants that the U.S. has with Canada are well documented in the USTR (United States Trade Representative) reports. Every country the U.S. trades with has it's own report and 'irritants'.

Protectionist policies of 'supply management'

Telecom Act which shuts out U.S. telecom providers

Banking Act with its protectionist measures to shut out U.S. banks

The airline industry and its protectionist measures

And most recently digital taxes that discriminate against U.S. digital giants

According to Lee, Trump and his economic advisors see tariffs as a tool to leverage other countries into opening up their markets to U.S. firms. What our politicians should be doing is sitting down with the Americans, opening up our free trade agreement and be prepared to put all our sacred cows on the table, in return for guarantees of no tariffs. 'To fight American protectionism is to get rid of our own protectionism'.

This isn't really about trade.

Trump wants to put America as the undeniable "top dog" among all nations.

I think that's his main goal.

He's shown how he thinks, 3 months ago in this interview. he recently put that in motion at the last WEF...............when he invited businesses to build in the USA,or face tariff.

Edited February 1 by betsy

betsy · February 1

On 1/28/2025 at 12:00 PM, CdnFox said:

Freeland calls for summit of nations targeted by Trump | Financial Post

I figured something like this would happen. I'm a little surprised that Canada is initiating it, I thought others might be ahead of us but something like this will be inevitable. Unfortunately doing it while you're not in power is simply going to p*ss trump off before you have the ability to address it.

Also there's the downside that we could become perceived as an "enemy" of Trump/the USA........and there will be nations that'll cuddle up with the USA. Like INDIA. Israel.

Asia depends on the USA against China.

Unfortunately, we have to face the fact that we don't have the clout...........and we've let ourselves to be dependent on others.

Of course, Trudeau has alienated nations too, with his sanctimonious posturing.

Edited February 1 by betsy

Aristides · February 1

25 minutes ago, betsy said:

Also there's the downside that we could become perceived as an "enemy" of Trump/the USA........and there will be nations that'll cuddle up with the USA. Like INDIA. Israel.

Asia depends on the USA against China.

Unfortunately, we have to face the fact that we don't have the clout...........and we've let ourselves to be dependent on others.

Of course, Trudeau has alienated nations too, with his sanctimonious posturing.

For all his faults, Trudeau never threatened anyone. This is a whole new ball game.

Dougie93 · February 1

44 minutes ago, Aristides said:

I think we should start sourcing outside the US when possible.

inciting the private sector to realign its supply chains in the near term is unrealistic

and the government does not want that to become structural and permanent

the response will be short term Trump related

but in terms of defence procurement, there are lots of things to buy in Canada

money could also be spent on infrastructure, such as military bases & facilities

the easiest thing to spend money on is personnel, by simply increasing the pay across the board

Aristides · February 1

Business will choose its own response. I meant military sourcing. We will be tied to the US for some things but there are options for many others.

Michael Hardner · February 1

1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

the easiest thing to spend money on is personnel, by simply increasing the pay across the board

I feel like this is a great approach because the money will be spent on Shore

Dougie93 · February 1

Just now, Michael Hardner said:

I feel like this is a great approach because the money will be spent on Shore

well that's the thing about the NATO 2% agreement

it doesn't stipulate how you have to spend the money

it's the same with NATO Article V

it doesn't stipulate what you have to do in response to Article V being invoked

SpankyMcFarland · February 1

2 hours ago, betsy said:

Also there's the downside that we could become perceived as an "enemy" of Trump/the USA........and there will be nations that'll cuddle up with the USA. Like INDIA. Israel.

Asia depends on the USA against China.

India is never going to be a close friend of the US and doesn’t want to be either. It sees China and America as two adversaries it must balance. On Ukraine, India is neutral, really pro-Russian, and has done very well from the cheap Russian oil resulting.

The only country America seems anxious to please these days is Israel which doesn’t have a choice in allies and whose policies divide the West.

Edited February 1 by SpankyMcFarland

betsy · February 1

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

For all his faults, Trudeau never threatened anyone. This is a whole new ball game.

No - it's not a new ball game.

It's the OLDEST ball game among tribes and nations since the beginning of time.

Someone's gotta be the top dog. That's the reality.

Canada isn't in the running of becoming it. It's either China or the USA.

I'd rather for it to be the USA.

Edited February 1 by betsy

betsy · February 1

1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

India is never going to be a close friend of the US and doesn’t want to be either. It sees China and America as two adversaries it must balance. On Ukraine, India is neutral, really pro-Russian, and has done very well from the cheap Russian oil resulting.

The only country America seems anxious to please these days is Israel which doesn’t have a choice in allies and whose policies divide the West.

I wouldn't say, "never."

Maybe, not with the Biden admin.

PM Modi speaks to 'dear friend' Trump: 'We are committed to a trusted partnership'

Prime Minister Narendra Modi spoke with US President Donald Trump discussed bilateral relations during their telephonic conversation. This was PM Modi's first conversation with Trump since the US President began his second term in office.

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/pm-modi-speaks-to-us-president-donald-trump-on-phone-2670944-2025-01-27

Today, President Donald J. Trump held a productive call with Prime Minister Narendra Modi of India. The two leaders discussed expanding and deepening cooperation. They also discussed a range of regional issues, including security in the Indo-Pacific, the Middle East, and Europe. The President emphasized the importance of India increasing its procurement of American-made security equipment and moving toward a fair bilateral trading relationship.

The leaders discussed plans for Prime Minister Modi to visit the White House, underscoring the strength of the friendship and strategic ties between our nations. Both leaders emphasized their commitment to advance the U.S.-India strategic partnership and the Indo-Pacific Quad partnership, with India hosting Quad Leaders for the first time later this year.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/2025/01/readout-of-president-donald-j-trumps-call-with-prime-minister-modi-of-india/

Edited February 1 by betsy

SpankyMcFarland · February 1

7 minutes ago, betsy said:

I wouldn't say, "never."

Maybe, not with the Biden admin.

That’s just the usual rhetoric pols come out with. Modi is still a pal of Putin as well. Neither he nor Trump even want close allies. India led the non-aligned movement and remains deeply suspicious of the US.

CdnFox · February 1

4 hours ago, betsy said:

Also there's the downside that we could become perceived as an "enemy" of Trump/the USA........and there will be nations that'll cuddle up with the USA. Like INDIA. Israel.

Asia depends on the USA against China.

Unfortunately, we have to face the fact that we don't have the clout...........and we've let ourselves to be dependent on others.

Of course, Trudeau has alienated nations too, with his sanctimonious posturing.

I think that the other nations are going to be looking at the USA as a very unreliable friend for quite some time.

The EU already reached out to canada to float the idea of joining them

Barquentine · February 1

1 hour ago, betsy said:

I'd rather for it to be the USA.

It might not be if they opt for isolationism.

Army Guy · February 3

On 2/1/2025 at 11:54 AM, Aristides said:

For all his faults, Trudeau never threatened anyone. This is a whole new ball game.

Well there was the convoy, Russia, a few women from his own cabinet...i'm sure there was others...

SpankyMcFarland · February 3

Is Trump a homegrown Manchurian Candidate? For years I’ve been going on about the danger of China to the West. Turns out Xi and his successors won’t even have to fight us. We’ll destroy ourselves.

Edited February 3 by SpankyMcFarland

CdnFox · February 3

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

Well there was the convoy, Russia, a few women from his own cabinet...i'm sure there was others...

The Vax hesitant whom he said they'd have to decide if they'd tolerate, the people he fired over it, All of Alberta at least a few times for 'environmental reasons', gun owners, ... is that enough? Do we need more? there's more if we need it...

taxme · February 10

On 1/28/2025 at 3:30 PM, Dougie93 said:

that will require a revolution against the ruling class

you won't get there until the Canadian Normies suffer terribly for their allegiance to said Laurentian Elites

chaos is a ladder

A book written many, many decades ago called "Bilingualism Today, French Tomorrow" explained in detail as to how the elite french Marxists from Quebec were out to change Canada from a British English speaking country into a french speaking Marxist hell hole, and so far, they have pretty much done so.

Get the french out of Ottawa and send them packing back to Quebec and English Canada will become a great country once again. Quebec owns Ottawa and the rest of Canada and this needs to change now. Works for me!!

Canada needs a strong conservative leader like Donald Trump, and not the traitors in Canada that have been elected to try and destroy Canada. They do not work for Canada or Canadians, they work for themselves to get rich. That is the way i have noticed things for decades now. Canada should be one of the most wealthiest countries on earth today. But today thanks to the traitorous politicians in this country they have made life a struggle. 🤮

taxme · February 10

On 1/28/2025 at 3:37 PM, Dougie93 said:

the Liberals all hate her now anyways

because she stabbed their Dear Leader Justin in the back

the Truanon Cult lives on through Justin's proxy Mark Carney

Mark Carney is just another WEF globalist puppet. Carney works for the globalists and not for Canada or Canadians interest. With Carney as the PM of Canada, it will be WEF globalist business as usual. I believe that Freeland is still on the board of the WEF. Liberals pretty much hate each other. All they appear to believe in is money and power and glory and nothing else. Just my opinion.