CdnFox Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 Trudeau set to stack Senate with Liberals before stepping down Just as it says, he plans to stack the senate as much as possible before he steps down. They're rushing the process for him right now because he hopes to tie up the senate for decades to come. Remember when he was all about making the senate 'non partisan'? Funny thing, cbc had a story with the same headline but it was almost immediately taken down and replaced with a much more liberal friendly story. The original one is now a dead link (below) Trudeau to fill Senate vacancies before retiring: source | CBC News Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
I am Groot Posted January 28 Report Posted January 28 There is going to be a constitutional crisis in the coming year if the Conservatives get in and the Liberal-appointed "independent" senators and Liberal-appointed "independent" judges take it upon themselves to thwart the important things he will be elected to do. And since both groups were appointed based on their ideological conformity with Trudeau's woke social justice beliefs, there almost certainly will be. Trudeau has already appointed 90 senators. Another ten will give him almost the whole senate. Only about 21 are due to retire in the coming four years so this will be a left wing senate for at least a decade. What happens if they refuse to let him change laws on things like trans or asylum or crime? If they won't let him cancel pharmacare or the dental program (if he chooses to), won't let him weaken laws related to climate change or that block natural resource programs? And what happens if the left wing judges declare something unconstitutional, and Poilievre moves to use the notwithstanding clause, and their peers in the senate refuse to approve it? In fact, it would not surprise me to have the leader of these people say quite openly on TV "We will never approve any use of the Notwithstanding clause by this government for any reason." Quote
CdnFox Posted January 28 Author Report Posted January 28 13 minutes ago, I am Groot said: There is going to be a constitutional crisis in the coming year if the Conservatives get in and the Liberal-appointed "independent" senators and Liberal-appointed "independent" judges take it upon themselves to thwart the important things he will be elected to do. And since both groups were appointed based on their ideological conformity with Trudeau's woke social justice beliefs, there almost certainly will be. Trudeau has already appointed 90 senators. Another ten will give him almost the whole senate. Only about 21 are due to retire in the coming four years so this will be a left wing senate for at least a decade. What happens if they refuse to let him change laws on things like trans or asylum or crime? If they won't let him cancel pharmacare or the dental program (if he chooses to), won't let him weaken laws related to climate change or that block natural resource programs? And what happens if the left wing judges declare something unconstitutional, and Poilievre moves to use the notwithstanding clause, and their peers in the senate refuse to approve it? In fact, it would not surprise me to have the leader of these people say quite openly on TV "We will never approve any use of the Notwithstanding clause by this government for any reason." It will become a problem for sure. This was harper's greatest failing. He was trying to play fair and send a message and as a result he left a ton of seats open for the liberals to fill when they took over in 2015. Surprise surprise the liberals have no such ethics and are going to cram the senate full as much as possible. There is a provision to add an additional eight members her temporary purposes under specific conditions but obviously that won't help at all Conservatives have to learn to play dirty the same way that liberals do. Stack the judges, stack the senate, cheat like hell. It doesn't work when one group is playing by moral rules and the other group is out to cut everyone's throat. It has to be a level playing field Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
NAME REMOVED Posted January 28 Report Posted January 28 Excellent. The Liberal have taken a lesson from the Trump Administration stacking the Supreme Court, allowing him to stay out of jail. Like many other countries, we will not be making that mistake. 1 Quote
eyeball Posted January 28 Report Posted January 28 2 hours ago, I am Groot said: What happens if they refuse to let him change laws on things like trans or asylum or crime? He could just have them murdered. I have it on good authority that PM's absolutely can do whatever they want when they're in power. 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: Conservatives have to learn to play dirty the same way that liberals do. Stack the judges, stack the senate, cheat like hell. It doesn't work when one group is playing by moral rules and the other group is out to cut everyone's throat. It has to be a level playing field Sure, when did two wrongs ever fail to make everything right in Canada? Wait for it... Never, because it always results in making everything left again! It doesn't matter if they're trying to do anything about it or get away with it, Conservatives suck at corruption. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Legato Posted January 28 Report Posted January 28 17 minutes ago, eyeball said: He could just have them murdered. I have it on good authority that PM's absolutely can do whatever they want when they're in power. Sure, when did two wrongs ever fail to make everything right in Canada? Wait for it... Never, because it always results in making everything left again! It doesn't matter if they're trying to do anything about it or get away with it, Conservatives suck at corruption. Still waiting............... Quote
Army Guy Posted January 28 Report Posted January 28 37 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: Excellent. The Liberal have taken a lesson from the Trump Administration stacking the Supreme Court, allowing him to stay out of jail. Like many other countries, we will not be making that mistake. Well they must not have learned anything, they are on the way out.....once they have earned their pensions they will be gone....And by the time the liberals get back in the conservatives will have done the same thing...it's not a merit badge, it is justin pouting and seeing if he can do more damage.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
eyeball Posted January 28 Report Posted January 28 6 minutes ago, Legato said: Still waiting............... Like a Brontosaurus waits for a kick in the ass to register? Wait for it. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
herbie Posted January 28 Report Posted January 28 That would be a good move. Ensure the roadblocking dinosaurs don't d*ck up the country so easily. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted January 28 Report Posted January 28 They'll all be women and BIPOC. 1 Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Legato Posted January 28 Report Posted January 28 12 hours ago, eyeball said: Like a Brontosaurus waits for a kick in the ass to register? Wait for it. would that give you the raptures, sorry raptors. Quote
CdnFox Posted January 28 Author Report Posted January 28 14 hours ago, eyeball said: He could just have them murdered. I have it on good authority that PM's absolutely can do whatever they want when they're in power. He can but it might affect his re-election chances Quote Sure, when did two wrongs ever fail to make everything right in Canada? As far as the left is concerned always. Gun control was wrong and it failed, so the left demanded more of it. Safe supply turned out to be an unmitigated disaster and wrong at every level yet the left is still clamoring for more of it. Excessive spending and borrowing has trashed our economy yet the left demands we double down. In fact the entire story of the left is a group of people who believe that if one wrong doesn't solve the problem then doing it twice will fix everything. That and lying. You've been saying that for decades now 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Army Guy Posted January 28 Report Posted January 28 13 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said: They'll all be women and BIPOC. Black, muslim, lesbian or trans women, got to cover all the bases here.... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Dougie93 Posted January 28 Report Posted January 28 so called "Canada" richly deserves the corrupt & incompetent rule of the Laurentian Elites Post National State With No Core Identity ; let it burn Quote
eyeball Posted January 28 Report Posted January 28 6 hours ago, CdnFox said: He can but it might affect his re-election chances Are you kidding? He'd probably go on to win three more terms. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted January 28 Author Report Posted January 28 18 minutes ago, eyeball said: Are you kidding? He'd probably go on to win three more terms. Well he'd lose Quebec.... Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
I am Groot Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 On 1/27/2025 at 10:39 PM, Army Guy said: Well they must not have learned anything, they are on the way out.....once they have earned their pensions they will be gone....And by the time the liberals get back in the conservatives will have done the same thing...it's not a merit badge, it is justin pouting and seeing if he can do more damage.... The Liberals find it much easier to stack the court because they're not looking for quality. They're looking for social justice warriors. And since you can't even get into law school anymore, much less graduate without a convincing testimony of how devoted you are to social justice that isn't hard. It would take ten years of Tory rule before they could get 5 of the 9 justices appointed based on the ages of the existing judges. That hapless native woman Trudeau appointed to the SC is only 51. She'll be on the court for the next 24 years. The Muslim is 58. He's gonna be around a long while too. These two barely qualify as judges and certainly shouldn't be on the SC if Trudeau was looking for more than virtue signaling and people with his shallow ideological views. On 1/28/2025 at 6:57 PM, CdnFox said: Well he'd lose Quebec.... Since when did conservatives ever win Quebec? They never get more than a handful of seats except when the Liberals have a non-Quebec leader and the Tories have a Quebecer. Quote
Moonbox Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 5 hours ago, I am Groot said: That hapless native woman Trudeau appointed to the SC is only 51. She'll be on the court for the next 24 years. The Muslim is 58. He's gonna be around a long while too. These two barely qualify as judges and certainly shouldn't be on the SC if Trudeau was looking for more than virtue signaling and people with his shallow ideological views. I imagine the Trudeau looks at the United States and how the checks and balances have been eroded, and has overreacted. As with so much of the rest of what he's done while in power, the virtue signaling IS the goal though, rather than practical positive outcomes. I can't really disagree with anything you're saying here. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
CdnFox Posted January 31 Author Report Posted January 31 7 hours ago, I am Groot said: Since when did conservatives ever win Quebec? It was kind of a joke Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
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