Trump's 51st State Troll

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Hitler was an unabashed Anglophile who admired the British Empire and Manifest Destiny. Bolshevism, however, was near the top of his naughty list. He dreamt of a Nordic Reich stretching from the Atlantic to the Urals, free of the ‘inferior’ races. Destroying the Soviet Union was key to this. 

He did passionately hate the communists. It is absolutely true that he hated them with a passion and in fact to a large degree the nazi party was built on opposition to the communist model. They fought constantly, consider the red wedding event (NOT game of thrones). 

[LittleBro]

On 1/7/2025 at 11:29 AM, Boges said:

I'm sure this is mentioned in other threads, but I don't see a thread ABOUT it. 

This is obviously a troll job. Getting Canadians all worked up. Now he can take credit for JT's resignation.

But why does everything this guy talk about have to be taken seriously. 

Is he going to annex Canada? Make us a singular state? Or treat us fairly and admit each province as their own sub-sovereign territory. PEI gets a congressman and two senators? Quebec can form their own alternative party to screw with their two-party system? 

We know he hasn't thought this through. It's just rhetoric. But I know this site is full of people that support Trump. What do you think the end-game here is? And if you are taking this seriously, how does this get done?  

Jails are full of people like Trump. Slumlord. Rapist. Thief. Gangster. Extortionist. Bully. Madman.

 

[eyeball]

On 3/4/2025 at 9:20 PM, CdnFox said:

It is absolutely true that he hated them with a passion

Absolutely true...until you passionately argue that Hitler was a commie, then something else is absolutely true.

[CdnFox]

53 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Absolutely true...until you passionately argue that Hitler was a commie, then something else is absolutely true.

I have never heard anyone argue that Hitler was a commie. But I guess lying about what other people have said is easier than actually making a solid argument  certainly explains why you do it so often, 

[500channelsurfer]

Canada has been controlled by Great Britain for the majority of our history. We are a Westminster Parliamentary Democracy, not a republic. On paper, we still are theoretically under Great Britain.

Our head of state is still the King of England.

All America would have to do is make some deal to replace the King or the Governor General with the President, and then the President could exert power over anything passed in our parliament (veto, call election, choose coalition, etc.).

[Boges]

On 3/7/2025 at 12:54 AM, 500channelsurfer said:

Canada has been controlled by Great Britain for the majority of our history. We are a Westminster Parliamentary Democracy, not a republic. On paper, we still are theoretically under Great Britain.

Our head of state is still the King of England.

All America would have to do is make some deal to replace the King or the Governor General with the President, and then the President could exert power over anything passed in our parliament (veto, call election, choose coalition, etc.).

The "King" doesn't have any real power. 

I doubt Trump would agree to be the "Head of State" replacing the monarchy. 

I still haven't even heard a proposal to address how adding Canada to mix in the US will affect their electoral dynamics. 

I suspect they'd want us to be like Puerto Rico. 

[500channelsurfer]

1 hour ago, Boges said:

I suspect they'd want us to be like Puerto Rico. 

Agree

 

1 hour ago, Boges said:

The "King" doesn't have any real power. 

Disagree: The King and Governor General only do not exercise any power by convention. Of course if they did, some mechanism such as a referendum or 2/3 majority of Parliament would remove them and/or modify our constitution almost immediately to remedy that situation.

To make Canada like Puerto Rico, the appointment of the Governor General could be switched from a Prime Ministerial appointment to a presidential appointment, just for example.

[SpankyMcFarland]

23 minutes ago, 500channelsurfer said:

To make Canada like Puerto Rico, the appointment of the Governor General could be switched from a Prime Ministerial appointment to a presidential appointment, just for example.

To make Canada more like Germany, Ireland or Israel we should elect the GG, perhaps with a series of secret votes by parliament, enabling MPs and senators to vote against any lunatics in their own parties without suffering punishment. The Canadian public has little enthusiasm for the elections we already have so let the politicians do this one. We don’t need a charismatic vote-getter anyway who is too ambitious for the role, more a safe pair of hands like David Johnston. The votes could be non-binding and be taken as ‘advice’ by the PM, thus minimizing the constitutional changes necessary. This way the GG would be completely independent of the PM. 

In the meantime, I think the GG should be speaking out about our current crisis, given that our head of state is being muzzled by Starmer. Nothing too confrontational but more a series of speeches in favour of Canada, eg highlighting the fun in holidaying at home. 

 

 

[500channelsurfer]

To clarify, I was just making a hypothetical case of what a US takeover of Canada could involve. I support Canadian independence.

I support a GG that could be more vocal but also better appointed as SpankyMcFarland explained.

[Barquentine]

What about a first nations GG, appointed by a non-partisan committee made of equal number from each party. That would tie the GG in to our land and history. No more monarchy.

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Barquentine said:

What about a first nations GG, appointed by a non-partisan committee made of equal number from each party. That would tie the GG in to our land and history. No more monarchy.

There's a million ways to do it really. 

We need a "gg"  (whatever name we give the position).  The GG is the circuit breaker for democracy.  But we can have that with or without a king. Honestly the king has nothing to do with it now. 

[herbie]

How about leave the GG and Monarch just like it is with f*ck all power and worry about a EEE Senate with no party affiliations allowed instead?
Ans f*ck off with the republic BS as we can clearly see the problem with a f*cking President that can DO shit without Parliamentary authority.

Edited March 21 by herbie

[herbie]

 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, herbie said:

How about leave the GG and Monarch just like it is with f*ck all power and worry about a EEE Senate with no party affiliations allowed instead?

The Lefty's shot that down when the conservatives tried it. Sorry kiddo, your side doesn't want any of that

[Goddess]

Normally I take Trump seriously, not literally. But he’s  giving this speech on locking up journalists. It feels kind of literal now. I want to see mainstream media reporters fail just as badly as everyone else who has managed to keep their sanity during the last few propaganda-soaked years, but I don’t want them jailed. Because then we’ll get so, so many jail memoirs.

 

The Right is going to have to take care they don't go down the trails blazed by the Left - censorship, deplatforming, removal of human rights, cries of Nazi! and Fascist!, jailing and shutting out of society anyone who even remotely disagrees with them.

 

Look, party people of the interwebs - WE NEED TO CALL IT OUT ON BOTH SIDES.  

 

It's why it's difficult for me to take the whining of the Left seriously these days - you all said nothing about all this for the last few years when it was YOUR SIDE doing it.  Part of me says, "Ya? Choke on it. Choke on what you've created and allowed."

 

But then common sense takes over.  WE NEED TO CALL IT OUT.  ON. BOTH. SIDES.  

 

[Aristides]

An article by someone who has lived this movie before.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-edward-island/pei-first-person-nino-antadze-1.7499239

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

An article by someone who has lived this movie before.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/prince-edward-island/pei-first-person-nino-antadze-1.7499239

Sure. Russia and America are pretty much the same thing. I mean it's not like America has a congress or senate or anything that might restrain the president from invading foreign nations

[Aristides]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Sure. Russia and America are pretty much the same thing. I mean it's not like America has a congress or senate or anything that might restrain the president from invading foreign nations

The Senate and House are dominated by Trump ass kissers, they haven't shown much interest in restraining him to date.

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Aristides said:

The Senate and House are dominated by Trump ass kissers, they haven't shown much interest in restraining him to date.

They're not. not that much.  He's even lost one vote on the tariffs with Canada never mind war. Both houses would need to agree to it. 

America could never win a war with Canada and the majority of them know it. It would make iraq and afghanistan look peaceful. And the vast majority of americans would be appalled at the idea of even trying.  Even trump had to be sure to say he would not use military force on Canada. 

not the same thing bud.