Peterson interview with Poilievre reveals the dire condition of Canada and what PP will do about it.

[Venandi]

I don't know all the details here but when this guy first hit the news, I read or heard (gym talk maybe) that he was a shop teacher and decidedly ruff and gruff by nature.

He had been reprimanded by the school for "toxic masculinity" and his revenge for that was the creation of his now famous, over the top, alter ego pictured above. There was no "transition" and no pretence of converting . He just showed up looking to create a spectacle of absurdity in order to shine a light on.... absurdity.

He got a bad rap as a poser but that was the point (I think) he was trying to make and admitting it would have ended the charade and gotten him fired. He certainly ran the school, school board, media, politicians, parents and general population down the tracks, over the hill and around the bend with it though. 

So, if what I head was true, or even partially true, it was deliberate, hilarious and actually pretty gutsy... I'm just twisted enough to come up with an idea like that but I'd surely chicken out before leaving the house. In fact,  I wouldn't even make it out of the bathroom.

Assuming it's true, I'm inclined to applaud the effort rather than vilify him. He accomplished more doing it his way than any letter writing campaign could ever have achieved.

Hats off to him...

 

 

Edited January 5 by Venandi

[Michael Hardner]

19 minutes ago, Venandi said:

 

Assuming it's true, I'm inclined to applaud the effort rather than vilify him. He accomplished more doing it his way than any letter writing campaign could ever have achieved.

Hats off to him...

 

 

I don't know what he accomplished, other than appearing unprofessional and ruining his career... Bringing the spotlight on the school in a bad way. 

No policy changed.  I think they switched him to another school. 

Whatever happened, we can safely say that nobody wants to talk about it anymore. Because it was Toronto Sun GOLD one day, then completely forgotten the next. 

So clearly they got to him, and whatever happened... The Toronto Sun decided to stop lionizing him because of whatever the real deal was. 

Perfect silence now.

 

 

 

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22 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

How about Magdur furs being Prosecuted for Opening on Sunday?  The Lord's Day?

And he was closed on shabbas?

Vilified by the papers like the fur dealer in Winnipeg who made the front page for under reporting on his taxes?

Lots of little examples and that's just Jews.

From my experience in life, Antisemitism was not much of an issue, until recently. However, there was tons of racism against Indigenous people. In the late 80s, there was a huge influx of Native people from reservations into inner city Winnipeg. I can still recall being from a middle class area, and seeing how bad the dozen or so Native people in my middle school of 600 people were treated. It was horrible.

Of course, there was quite a degree of anti-Asian sentiment, especially against South Asians. In my 20s, I saw that intensify after 9/11. Muslims and South Asians were targeted. I personally experienced racism against South Asian cab drivers and convenience store workers. The current Premier Wab Kinew was convicted of assault in 2004, after leaving a party by cab.

Kinew repeatedly made racial insults to the South Asian cab driver, before exiting the cab, and walking up to the drivers side, and punching him. The driver was then beaten and kicked by Kinew, once the cabbie excited his vehicle. Luckily Police arrived quick. Kinew was blackout drunk.

So to say Canada never had a racial problem until Trudeau created one, is ridiculous. It just is not true. 

[Michael Hardner]

17 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

From my experience in life, Antisemitism was not much of an issue, until recently. However, there was tons of racism against Indigenous people. In the late 80s, there was a huge influx of Native people from reservations into inner city Winnipeg. I can still recall being from a middle class area, and seeing how bad the dozen or so Native people in my middle school of 600 people were treated. It was horrible.

Of course, there was quite a degree of anti-Asian sentiment, especially against South Asians. In my 20s, I saw that intensify after 9/11. Muslims and South Asians were targeted. I personally experienced racism against South Asian cab drivers and convenience store workers. The current Premier Wab Kinew was convicted of assault in 2004, after leaving a party by cab.

Kinew repeatedly made racial insults to the South Asian cab driver, before exiting the cab, and walking up to the drivers side, and punching him. The driver was then beaten and kicked by Kinew, once the cabbie excited his vehicle. Luckily Police arrived quick. Kinew was blackout drunk.

So to say Canada never had a racial problem until Trudeau created one, is ridiculous. It just is not true. 

I would say it was subtle sometimes, not others and persistent and pervasive. 

Even in the '80s, I had guys.... Upper mid management... Doing funny Chinese accents at the IT guys. 

Of course it was casual and harmless on that level. However it also indicated that it was absolutely no social impact of behaving this way. 

And for sure people didn't want their kids marrying outside their race or religion. 

Even most Jews I know now are like.... If my kid gets married, that's enough of a bonus for me. Most of my friends don't expect grandkids either. 

So it's a different world. 

And you're right, 9/11 and the rise of obstinate and proud ignorance has changed everything. 

I still think it's a fad.

[Venandi]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I don't know what he accomplished, other than appearing unprofessional and ruining his career... Bringing the spotlight on the school in a bad way. 

 

Yes, he did all of that but (I think) that was exactly what he set out to accomplish. Maybe he saw wrecking his career as a cost he was willing to pay... I have no idea though, I'm just guessing. There must have been some motivating factor to produce such an extravagant over the top performance on his part.

Everyone knows who he is, they recognize his picture and they have strong opinions (one way or the other) about what he’s doing. He’s become a lightning rod for discussions and whether it’s intentional or not, he’s managed to shine a spotlight on absurdity like few others have. His picture has been on this forum numerous times, he’s been mentioned in threads repeatedly and we’re talking about him right now.

So whether you support him or not, like him or not, and regardless of differing opinions on trans rights… pretty much everyone can agree with the notion that what he’s doing is, indeed, totally absurd by any definition. The only thing more absurd is that he can get away with it so easily. I dare say there are few other topics on this issue that creates such unity of opinion.

After being accused of “toxic masculinity,” he’s managed to make his accusers eat their words and look utterly ridiculous while they’re chewing on them with the same grimace normally associated with skunks.

Can you think of anyone else who's accomplished that in such a public manner or any other reason that he would choose to proceed in the way he did?  

I'm starting to think that total absurdity might be a valuable tool in fighting some of the madness that bedevils us.  

 

Edited January 6 by Venandi

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Venandi said:

Yes, he did all of that but (I think) that was exactly what he set out to accomplish. Maybe he saw wrecking his career as a cost he was willing to pay... I have no idea though, I'm just guessing. There must have been some motivating factor to produce such an extravagant over the top performance on his part.

Everyone knows who he is, they recognize his picture and they have strong opinions (one way or the other) about what he’s doing. He’s become a lightning rod for discussions and whether it’s intentional or not, he’s managed to shine a spotlight on absurdity like few others have. His picture has been on this forum numerous times, he’s been mentioned in threads repeatedly and we’re talking about him right now.

So whether you support him or not, like him or not, and regardless of differing opinions on trans rights… pretty much everyone can agree with the notion that what he’s doing is, indeed, totally absurd by any definition. The only thing more absurd is that he can get away with it so easily. I dare say there are few other topics on this issue that creates such unity of opinion.

After being accused of “toxic masculinity,” he’s managed to make his accusers eat their words and look utterly ridiculous while they’re chewing on them with the same grimace normally associated with skunks.

.Can you think of anyone else who's accomplished that in such a public manner?

 

He absolutely did point out the folly of caving to trans or other special dangerous groups just based on their say so without policy.  A lot of parents became aware of the issue and the administration was in fact forced to review policy, even the education minister got involved 

Teacher Kayla Lemieux seen in new pic with Z-cup fake boobs

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And he remained employed as i recall, just not at that school. So still making money and all

He brought a lot of attention to the issue and I guess that was his point

 

[Legato]

14 minutes ago, Venandi said:

Yes, he did all of that but (I think) that was exactly what he set out to accomplish. Maybe he saw wrecking his career as a cost he was willing to pay... I have no idea though, I'm just guessing. There must have been some motivating factor to produce such an extravagant over the top performance on his part.

Everyone knows who he is, they recognize his picture and they have strong opinions (one way or the other) about what he’s doing. He’s become a lightning rod for discussions and whether it’s intentional or not, he’s managed to shine a spotlight on absurdity like few others have. His picture has been on this forum numerous times, he’s been mentioned in threads repeatedly and we’re talking about him right now.

So whether you support him or not, like him or not, and regardless of differing opinions on trans rights… pretty much everyone can agree with the notion that what he’s doing is, indeed, totally absurd by any definition. The only thing more absurd is that he can get away with it so easily. I dare say there are few other topics on this issue that creates such unity of opinion.

After being accused of “toxic masculinity,” he’s managed to make his accusers eat their words and look utterly ridiculous while they’re chewing on them with the same grimace normally associated with skunks.

Can you think of anyone else who's accomplished that in such a public manner or any other reason that he would choose to proceed in the way he did?  

 

to add to that he was a nightly running joke on the Greg Gutfeld show for over a year, the late night show with a whopping audience. 

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12 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

He absolutely did point out the folly of caving to trans or other special dangerous groups just based on their say so without policy.  A lot of parents became aware of the issue and the administration was in fact forced to review policy, even the education minister got involved 

Teacher Kayla Lemieux seen in new pic with Z-cup fake boobs

Oakville teacher who wears large prosthetic breasts no longer at school | CTV News

And he remained employed as i recall, just not at that school. So still making money and all

He brought a lot of attention to the issue and I guess that was his point

 

I have not heard of this person. It's a big problem when the Teachers Association does not see this problem for what it is- a mentally ill man, trying to bring attention onto himself. He should have been terminated immediately. 

[CdnFox]

Just now, DUI_Offender said:

I have not heard of this person. It's a big problem when the Teachers Association does not see this problem for what it is- a mentally ill man, trying to bring attention onto himself. He should have been terminated immediately. 

They couldn't. That would be assuming his gender. They couldn't have a dress code that was deemed to be trans exclusionary And they couldn't dare say that he was lying about being trans.

That was the point. People had bought into the idea of giving trans whatever they wanted without question to the point where even a fraud could not be addressed for fear of a human rights violation and subsequent lawsuit.

The issue becomes where you draw the line? How do you know who's a fake and who is it? How do you walk the line between reasonable and respectful Behavior and respecting people's rights? These were the very issues that were raised.

And I would remind you that calling someone who claims to be transgender mentally ill can get you in a lot of trouble

You see what happens when you give people can't blanche like that? There has to be limits and there has to be conditions and no, trans people should not just be allowed to do whatever they want. And this guy proved why

[Moonbox]

Just now, CdnFox said:

The issue becomes where you draw the line? How do you know who's a fake and who is it? How do you walk the line between reasonable and respectful Behavior and respecting people's rights? These were the very issues that were raised.

There was a time when common sense was a thing, and people in positions of authority could exercise it without having to deal with millions of dollars in litigation over it.  Kayla Lemieux should have been shown the door the first day he showed up to school like that.  When more time is spent agonizing over his rights to gender expression than the farce he made out of his classroom and that school, something is wrong. 

This is a really good example of what rallies the Trumpers etc.  They aren't afraid to lay into it, and that takes at least some courage.  

[I am Groot]

On 1/4/2025 at 6:55 PM, Black Dog said:

That doesn't mean your experience with racism was universal. I doubt those. people who were Indigenous, Asian, Black etc who were around back then would tell the same story.

I'm sure they would. But statistically, they were a tiny minority. And I'm not sure it was necessary to import millions more of them in order to deal with our cultural racism/prejudice problem.

On 1/4/2025 at 6:55 PM, Black Dog said:

And as I pointed out to DumbFux, Canada's immigration policies were quite explicitly racist for the first half of the country's existence, which kinda undermine's PP's point about racism not really being a thing in the past. 

The whole world was racist and bigoted for most of our existence, and most of it is still openly and blatantly racist and bigoted to the degree no one even thinks twice about it. Among THE most racist and bigoted states are India, Pakistan, China, and the entire Middle East - who constitute a large percentage of the people we've been importing (without any screening). 

So yes, he is correct that we imported racism.

https://www.algoafm.co.za/algoa-fm-breakfast-with-wayne-lee-and-charlie-t/map-shows-world-s-most-racist-countries

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

There was a time when common sense was a thing, and people in positions of authority could exercise it without having to deal with millions of dollars in litigation over it.  Kayla Lemieux should have been shown the door the first day he showed up to school like that.  When more time is spent agonizing over his rights to gender expression than the farce he made out of his classroom and that school, something is wrong. 

This is a really good example of what rallies the Trumpers etc.  They aren't afraid to lay into it, and that takes at least some courage.  

Well you have to remember people say the same thing about letting men use women's washrooms or compete against women in sports. 

I mean i agree 100 percent that this is pretty obviously over the top as far as i'm concerned but i would also be tempted to say we should never let trans women compete with bio women in sports. And others would disagree.  So unfortunately in a world where there's no real agreed upon societal "norms" anymore litigation and law is all we have left. 

It's an issue. 

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21 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Well you have to remember people say the same thing about letting men use women's washrooms or compete against women in sports. 

I mean i agree 100 percent that this is pretty obviously over the top as far as i'm concerned but i would also be tempted to say we should never let trans women compete with bio women in sports. And others would disagree.  So unfortunately in a world where there's no real agreed upon societal "norms" anymore litigation and law is all we have left. 

It's an issue. 

Not many...

IIRC, over 75% of people surveyed agree with banning biological males from Woman's sports. It's cheating.

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[CdnFox]

21 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Not many...

IIRC, over 75% of people surveyed agree with banning biological males from Woman's sports. It's cheating.

Perhaps, but 75 percent isn't 100. And that's where we run into challenges. That which seems obvious and apparent to one does not necessarily to others and no matter how people think the human rights boards may see things very different. 

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

LOl you've never heard of hyperbole, Christ you're lame.

Not really, no. The 1881 Census listed 4,383 Chinese in Canada. There may have been more, but we're talking a few thousand, tops.

It was 17,000 in bc alone by the turn of the century. Sooooo.  Yeah. 

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A head tax is literally a restriction, 

No it's literally a tax. 

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As for this being a brief period, Chinese immigrants were restricted by the Head Tax from 1885 to 1923

In our country's history, that's a brief period.

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There was a literal ban on Chinese immigrants for almost 25 years.

Also a brief period. Not even a generation. 

Your claim was that until recently NOBODY OTHER THAN EUROPEANS were allowed in. By the time of that ban tens of thousands of chinese were already in and were growing, along with japanese, blacks, etc etc. 

So you were wrong. Period. 

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Note how you can't actually put a number to any of these because it would show how tiny non-white immigration was for the bulk of Canada's history 

I already put a number on it and nobody said it wasnt' small.  but you said it wasn't allowed.

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The irony of you being a pedantic b!tch because you don't have the reading skills to recognize hyperbole while being completely ignorant of the extent of Canada's historical immigration restrictions is rich.

But you should take it up with user @I am Groot. Go tell him he's all wrong about Canada being racially homogenous for most of its history and that Canada prior to 1968 was a rainbow multicultural paradise of acceptance.

 

Ahhh yes your usual freak out when you get called out for being wrong. 

 

You claimed that basically non whites were "not allowed" to come to canada.  In fact they came by the thousands, by the tens of thousands. 

[CdnFox]

On 1/4/2025 at 5:37 PM, DUI_Offender said:

Antisemitism has ebbed and flowed in Canada for over a century. It is dramatically up due to the War with Hamas during the past 15 months, nothing to do with Trudeau.

 

That absolutely is something to do with Trudeau. First off it's been a lot more than just the last 15 months it's been considerably longer than that that it's been on the rise. But second off how trudeau addresses rampant racism on our streets in the form of protests and addressees the situation largely dictates out out of control things get. 

Whenever you used to have church burnings. Then Trudeau basically suicide and allowed first nations people to burn down churches at will. Now we're well over 200 in just a few years. We have mild anti-semitism here and there occasionally. Now because Trudeau allows people to stand in the streets and call for the death of Jews and does nothing people feel emboldened to take further actions

I'm not sure you understand what leadership is. But yeah Trudeau's limp ass response to the crisis has absolutely got everything to do with what's happening

[Michael Hardner]

8 hours ago, Venandi said:

1. ...pretty much everyone can agree with the notion that what he’s doing is, indeed, totally absurd by any definition. The only thing more absurd is that he can get away with it so easily. I dare say there are few other topics on this issue that creates such unity of opinion.

2. After being accused of “toxic masculinity,” he’s managed to make his accusers eat their words and look utterly ridiculous while they’re chewing on them with the same grimace normally associated with skunks.

3. Can you think of anyone else who's accomplished that in such a public manner or any other reason that he would choose to proceed in the way he did?  

4. I'm starting to think that total absurdity might be a valuable tool in fighting some of the madness that bedevils us.  

 

1. Uh.  He's done though.  You got that right ?  You're using present tense here as though this is ongoing.
2. I don't know who his accusers were.  But everyone knows who he is.  He's the guy who dressed as a woman and made a clown on himself.  How did they eat their words ?  
3. I don't see what he achieved at all here.  I guess he vented, and tested the system and that's a thing.
4. Except, a protest is supposed to change things.  So, ok, that didn't happen.  Lots of protests fail... like Occupy Wall Street or the Ottaway Convoy for example.  And we look back at them and ask whether there was significance or impact.  I think that there are some better examples of people who took the high road against PC thinking, especially against attempts to ban legitimate books or against books that they saw as inappropriate for young kids.  Who's to say which of these will be remembered and which won't ?  One of my favourite rock groups The Animals were HUGE in the 1960s and are almost forgotten now...

[Venandi]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

I don't know who his accusers were.  But everyone knows who he is.  He's the guy who dressed as a woman and made a clown on himself.  How did they eat their words ?  

Morning Michael.

I admit to not knowing all the details here, but if the stories are true it appears his accuser was the school itself, likely the HR folks.

Then... he went directly from career counselling (arguably an adversarial process) to having his ridiculous antics defended by the very same people who just debriefed him on toxic masculinity... that's not light dining IMO.  

Maybe it's just me but I enjoyed watching the school defend him without choking on the absurdity of their own situation between mouthfuls.

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

I don't see what he achieved at all here.  I guess he vented, and tested the system and that's a thing.

He used absurdity as tool to shine a light on how far the pandering of special interests groups had gone and how far total madness could be taken with the full support of the very people who previously criticized his conduct. IMO, he generated more controversy, more outrage, and more discussion than you seem to be acknowledging.

Were you expecting a profound, game changing transition in western society as a result of a low level passive aggressive display of absurdity?

I wasn't, and I don't think he was either. 

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Except, a protest is supposed to change things.

Or it can draw attention to something in need of change and that objective can be accomplished in a number of ways. In this case I doubt the other options available to him would have generated the headlines and controversy that playing dress up did.

I've probably written the word absurdity more in the last few posts than I have in a very long time. Applauding the effectiveness of his efforts is not the same as applauding (or supporting) his actions though. On the other hand, I admit to having some admiration for his tenacity and the amount of coverage he got. I also think (albeit grudgingly), that he deserves extra points for original thinking.  

I'm not going to pursue the issue further but in closing I'd invite you to look at the amount of discussion that he managed to generate right here on the forum.

I think that was the point of the exercise.

Cheers 

     

Edited January 6 by Venandi

[Michael Hardner]

32 minutes ago, Venandi said:

1. Then... he went directly from career counselling (arguably an adversarial process) to having his ridiculous antics defended by the very same people who just debriefed him on toxic masculinity... that's not light dining IMO.  

Maybe it's just me but I enjoyed watching the school defend him without choking on the absurdity of their own situation between mouthfuls.

2. He used absurdity as tool to shine a light on how far the pandering of special interests groups had gone and how far total madness could be taken with the full support of the very people who previously criticized his conduct. IMO, he generated more controversy, more outrage, and more discussion than you seem to be acknowledging.

3. Were you expecting a profound, game changing transition in western society as a result of a low level passive aggressive display of absurdity?

I wasn't, and I don't think he was either. 

 

4. I'm not going to pursue the issue further but in closing I'd invite you to look at the amount of discussion that he managed to generate right here on the forum.

I think that was the point of the exercise.

Cheers 

     

1. I don't remember the school defending him. I think rather they knew what was going on and just dictated the letter of the law. Same with the school board. 

2. I'll acknowledge he raised controversy. But without any kind of closure, with a complete erasure of any any kind of achievement from those in the mainstream media who were talking about him... I don't know ... it feels like a failure. 

3. I expected he'd take it to court or some some higher process. As it was. He was a joke in the newspaper for a short while. 

4. I think that's what's wrong with politics today. Controversy on its own means nothing. What does it mean? 

 

Cheers 

[Nationalist]

Sigh...

Instead of wallowing down in the weeds of history, let's put this bigotry issue to bed.

Anyone who tells you they are not "racist", is lying...either to you or to themselves. Racism happens to stem from a survival instinct. A fear or leeriness of "the other"..."the different". There are any number of scientific papers addressing this instinct, but for those who need a citation...https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://dtpr.lib.athabascau.ca/action/download.php%3Ffilename%3Dmais/SherrieSilmanprojectDifferentiationEffect.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiapeezteGKAxXK_8kDHWv8CKYQFnoECDoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2kBHnXbtGfl7iIT_1ZKsq-

I've said this before and will continue to say it...because it happens to be true. The question is NOT "Are you racist?". The question IS "How do you deal with your natural racist instincts?".

We Caucasians have a cultural or societal guilt complex over having engaged in horrible treatment of coloured folks. And perhaps that guilt complex is indeed deserved. But I ask you...would a Caucasian person be openly welcomed in India? Or in Pakistan...China...South Africa...or even in Japan? Take a gander at this:

https://www.algoafm.co.za/algoa-fm-breakfast-with-wayne-lee-and-charlie-t/map-shows-world-s-most-racist-countries

North America is one of the least racist places on Earth. Yet it persists and will continue to do so. Why? Instinct and the way folks deal with their racist instinct. BTW...note that the MOST racist nation on Earth is...India.

Now on to Jordan Peterson...who some here have called a "traitor". Jordan Peterson stood up to the government when his principals were threatened by it. What principal? Free Speech. Surprisingly enough, in a part of the world where such freedoms are treasured, the government and institutions of Canada have tried to silence Peterson because he opposes their agenda...which he does masterfully.

The Peterson/Poilievre interview is a serious conversation which provides a very candid look into Poilievre's motivations and the direction he wants to take Canada. The interview has about 2.5 million views. This popularity apparently scares the sh1t out of Libbies, as this and his polling numbers strongly suggest he will be Canada's next PM and will undo a lot of the Libbie agenda. Its gotten so bad for Libbies that just today, Pixie-Dust has stepped down as PM of Canada.

The "Progressive" agenda is losing all over the world. People are tired of being told to suffer in so many ways, for some greater good that seems to increase poverty and rubs our sense of freedom the wrong way.

Thus in conclusion...racism is simply a fact of life and the "Progressive" agenda is dying on the vine.

And I say...

Its about Gawd-Damn time!

Edited January 6 by Nationalist

[Black Dog]

13 hours ago, I am Groot said:

I'm sure they would. But statistically, they were a tiny minority.

So because they were a tiny minority it's ok that people were racist towards them?

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And I'm not sure it was necessary to import millions more of them in order to deal with our cultural racism/prejudice problem.

I don't think that's why we had immigration.

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The whole world was racist and bigoted for most of our existence, and most of it is still openly and blatantly racist and bigoted to the degree no one even thinks twice about it.

Whataboutism, we're talking about the attitudes here and the specific claim that there wasn't really any racism here in a country that had extremely racist immigration policies for much of its existence.

[Black Dog]

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

It was 17,000 in bc alone by the turn of the century. Sooooo.  Yeah. 

Those 17,000 in BC (I've yet to see a source for this number btw) were basically the entire population in Canada. By 1941, there were 35,000 Chinese people in the entire country, I wonder why they only barely doubled their numbers over that span...

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No it's literally a tax. 

It's a restriction, you m0r0n. One specifically designed to deter Chinese immigration.

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In our country's history, that's a brief period.

Half the country's history is not a brief period.

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Also a brief period. Not even a generation. 

Actually my math was wrong it was 45 years from the Chinese Exclusion Act to its repeal. Two generations.

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You claimed that basically non whites were "not allowed" to come to canada.  In fact they came by the thousands, by the tens of thousands. 

Because they weren't. As i pointed out there were multiple legal restrictions on non white immigration that you pretend didn't exist because you're retarded. That people came in before those restrictions and some trickled in who could afford to doesn't change that reality.

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[eyeball]

5 hours ago, Venandi said:

Were you expecting a profound, game changing transition in western society as a result of a low level passive aggressive display of absurdity?

I wasn't, and I don't think he was either. 

I doubt he had any more idea about where it would all go than anyone else but fading into the background is probably the last place they imagined along with the absurdities he was apparently trying to illuminate.

If this Mr Boobs thing is emblematic of the war on woke it's probably going to be a short war that similarly fades to insignificance. The real problems of the world aren't going anywhere and in fact they're only getting in our faces more.

Politicians who fail to notice or feel the need to focus on woke issues will either wake up or fade to black.

 

[Nationalist]

18 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I doubt he had any more idea about where it would all go than anyone else but fading into the background is probably the last place they imagined along with the absurdities he was apparently trying to illuminate.

If this Mr Boobs thing is emblematic of the war on woke it's probably going to be a short war that similarly fades to insignificance. The real problems of the world aren't going anywhere and in fact they're only getting in our faces more.

Politicians who fail to notice or feel the need to focus on woke issues will either wake up or fade to black.

 

Well...then I think that between Trump and Poilievre, "woke" will die in North America. I think that because...you have an uncanny ability to be wrong.

[Black Dog]

18 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

So to say Canada never had a racial problem until Trudeau created one, is ridiculous. It just is not true. 

In the small-ish town where I grew up in the '80s there was like one South Asian family in town and they lived in an apartment block that became universally known as the "Paki Palace." I remember a column in a major city newspaper about a strike by cab drivers that used the same racial slur and said "it's not just the cabs that are yellow." Native, ch*nk and n***er jokes were everywhere including on the playground. It didn't matter that there were hardly any racialized people in our town; if anything, that made it easier for folks to be racist because they only had bigoted stereotypes to work with.

This is of course the world that conservatives want us to return to.