MAGA civil war starting?

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

The left also cares about the uneducated slobs with no intellect. Those are the people who need public services the most. 

Hey care as long as these people do what they're told. They're happy to care about the peons as long as they stay in line and obey their masters.

Conservatives recognize that these are people. And that you are not superior to them in any way shape or form. And that their thoughts and opinions are valid.

These are things that liberals simply refuse to accept

5 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Keep in mind conservatives including you repeat the racist suggestion that the entire race is too simple-minded to understand their own issues and interests and has been fooled by Democrats for generations. 

Nope.  Conservatives say the opposite. They think that the solutions to our problems are letting people and the markets figure it out for themselves, and that doing so will in the end produce the best results. 

It's the left who believes that people must be told what to do, what to think, how to behave etc.

We think the left frequently LIES to people and those who don't know better might trust the left and get taken in for a little while.  But as the last election in the states shows and the next election in canada will likely show people figure it out in the end. 

Being lied to has nothing to do with intelligence. Staying lied to does. Which is proof in and of itself that conservatives are smarter  LOL

[Nationalist]

I have to admit being disappointed in X. Elon and these Republicans should be able to disagree on these work visas.

Having said that, I think the H1B visa is probably being abused and needs some scrutiny.

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Not sure what the context is, regarding this post. Musk continues to fight random MAGAs.

So much for the "free speech absolutionist." He has been banning accounts left and right for the past 48 hours...lol.

 

EDIT: This is the context.

Wow. No wonder why Elon deleted this Tweet. He said the quiet part out loud. 

"Training Americans takes too much time and money. So I will just bring in temporary foreign workers, since they worked for less."

Edited December 28, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[Politics1990]

not surprised lol maga is never happy unless there fighting if its not democrats then themselves🤣

[West]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I have to admit being disappointed in X. Elon and these Republicans should be able to disagree on these work visas.

Having said that, I think the H1B visa is probably being abused and needs some scrutiny.

Probably got wind of democrat shenanigans where they will try to RICO MAGA influencers for daring to beat that crazy lady in an election

[Hodad]

13 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Elon Musk’s Newest Critics on X Just Paid the Price

Conservative influencers slammed Elon Musk over his recent posts on immigration—and now they’re being punished.

 

The online beef between Donald Trump’s Silicon Valley backers and the more traditionally conservative MAGA base has culminated in Elon Musk allegedly using X to censor his fellow Trump supporters. 

Laura Loomer, Gavin Mario Wax, ConservativePAC, and Owen Shroyer all had their X verification badges removed Thursday night after criticizing Musk’s stances on labor and immigration earlier in the day.
 

 

All of our influencers have now lost verification status, as well as our own page,” the Trump-supporting ConservativePAC wrote. “Our brand did nothing. We spoke out against HB1 visas and it appears that @elonmusk intentionally shut us down? Is this the new status quo from America’s ‘most free’ social media platform?”

“I mean right after @elonmusk called me a troll today, my account verification was taken away, my subscriptions were deactivated and I was banned from being able to buy premium even though I was already paying for premium,” said Loomer. “Clearly retaliation.”

“My verification badge is now under review. Weird! Didn’t change anything,” said Gavin Mario Wax, another vocal critic of H-1B visas.

…

 

“Insane that blue checks are being removed from accounts that have been vocal in their criticism of the H1B racket. Horrible look,” conservative influencer Wax said in a separate post. “I’ve supported Elon and X. Anyone who was at the @NYYRC gala can attest that I dedicated a large portion of my speech to praising Elon. Sad!”

This racialized internal strife has yet to be commented on by President-elect Trump, and may spell trouble for the future of DOGE, Musk, and Ramaswamy.

 

https://newrepublic.com/post/189683/elon-musk-critics-x-immigration-paid-price-verification?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=topic%2Fliberal

Only fools believed that Elon Musk bought Twitter to champion free speech. And only the dumbest of the dumb still believe it today. That cat has been very visibly out of the bag since just after the acquisition.

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This should go over well, with the MAGA cult.

[CdnFox]

47 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

 

This should go over well, with the MAGA cult.

Nobody's going to care. At the end of the day trump will make a decision and life will move on and honestly nobody cares

I know that you desperately want this to be some sort of collapse of the republican party but it's not going to be and honestly that's just silly

God knows we've had our problems with the same sort of program in Canada. Sounds like it needs a little rejiggering. The drama is always entertaining but it's really not that big a deal. Sorry for your luck  

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46 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Nobody's going to care.

Seems like the majority of Trump supporters do. It's almost comical. The MAGA platform is based on protectionist policies, and is essentially anti-immigrant. A huge percentage of Trump's core supporters have some racist beliefs. It would not take a rocket scientist to predict that when two immigrants (DOGE), try to push a narrative that it's too costly to train American workers in the tech industry, in favour of overseas immigrants (mainly from India). his base was going to react like this.

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said:

  The MAGA platform is based on protectionist policies, and is essentially anti-immigrant.  

MAGA culture is also anti-elitist.  So how does it play out when the world's richest man and some Indian tech boy talk down to Americans and say they're deficient and LIKES posts that say Americans are too r3tarded to fill tech jobs?

https://www.independent.co.uk/politics/elon-musk-americans-visas-vivek-ramaswamy-b2670592.html

Or Ramaswamy says:

"“A culture that celebrates the prom queen over the math olympiad champ, or the jock over the valedictorian, will not produce the best engineers,” the billionaire added. “A culture that venerates Cory from ‘Boy Meets World,’ or Zach & Slater over Screech in ‘Saved by the Bell,’ or ‘Stefan’ over Steve Urkel in ‘Family Matters,’ will not produce the best engineers.”

These people are true believers in corporate trickle down economics.  Are MAGA ? 

 

Well, they are, only as much as it works for them and their nostalgic vision of postwar America.

[Matthew]

On 12/27/2024 at 6:05 AM, DUI_Offender said:

why is the quality of life so poor in India?

Massive numbers of people. Continued impact from destruction of colonialism. A society dominated by their own backwards looking right wing conservatives.

The people emigrating to the US from India are mostly a highly educated middle class of technical expertise not representative of Indian culture at large.

 

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Just now, Matthew said:

Massive numbers of people. Continued impact from destruction of colonialism. A society dominated by their own backwards looking right wing conservatives.

Complete BS. If anything, Great Britain made India a better country. If India wants to achieve anything, they have to do away with the horrible caste system.

[Matthew]

Just now, DUI_Offender said:

Complete BS. If anything, Great Britain made India a better country.

India was the most productive economy in the world from the mid 1600s to the early 1700. Under colonialism, tens of millions died from colonial policies, and most of the population was turned into agricultural workers.

[WestCanMan]

6 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

MAGA culture is also anti-elitist. 

Not true at all. That's a total farce and you know it.

The left is by far the anti-elitist group.

All they do is talk about taxing elites.

Conservatives are against dirty FBI agents, corrupt AGs and judges, social media censorship, MSM disinformation and a lot of other things, but "elites" aren't on that list at all. 

[West]

Apparently x pulled full on Chinese style social credit scores and disabled peoples ability to monetize their content over their views on Visas. 

Wild

[CdnFox]

8 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

Seems like the majority of Trump supporters do.

Right, that's why the democrat supporters were the one who started this thread and do most of the posting on it  

I'm sure they'll find it entertaining, but no... nobody cares. 

[BeaverFever]

17 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

 

EDIT: This is the context.

Wow. No wonder why Elon deleted this Tweet. He said the quiet part out loud. 

"Training Americans takes too much time and money. So I will just bring in temporary foreign workers, since they worked for less."

I wonder if that user was sharing  a fake Elon tweet though. In the MAGAverse, fakes and lies are everywhere. 

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2 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

I wonder if that user was sharing  a fake Elon tweet though. In the MAGAverse, fakes and lies are everywhere. 

Hard to say. It's widely believed Musk has several burner accounts, so that just complicates things.

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

MAGA culture is also anti-elitist.  So how does it play out when the world's richest man and some Indian tech boy talk down to Americans and say they're deficient and LIKES posts that say Americans are too r3tarded to fill tech jobs?

https://www.independent.co.uk/politics/elon-musk-americans-visas-vivek-ramaswamy-b2670592.html

Or Ramaswamy says:

"“A culture that celebrates the prom queen over the math olympiad champ, or the jock over the valedictorian, will not produce the best engineers,” the billionaire added. “A culture that venerates Cory from ‘Boy Meets World,’ or Zach & Slater over Screech in ‘Saved by the Bell,’ or ‘Stefan’ over Steve Urkel in ‘Family Matters,’ will not produce the best engineers.”

These people are true believers in corporate trickle down economics.  Are MAGA ? 

 

Well, they are, only as much as it works for them and their nostalgic vision of postwar America.

I love that the left winger is going to define maga  

Generally speaking it appears vastly more accurate to say that 'maga' supporters are results driven. The right in general tends towards meritocracy.  People who get crap done are thought well of and people who fail to get crap done or just spout empty promises are not thought well of. 

And that's true if the guy is a plumber or a tech Giant. 

 

[WestCanMan]

52 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

I wonder if that user was sharing  a fake Elon tweet though. In the MAGAverse, fakes and lies are everywhere. 

OK collusion boy/vaxtard/Biden apologist. 

[WestCanMan]

44 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I love that the left winger is going to define maga  

Generally speaking it appears vastly more accurate to say that 'maga' supporters are results driven. The right in general tends towards meritocracy.  People who get crap done are thought well of and people who fail to get crap done or just spout empty promises are not thought well of. 

And that's true if the guy is a plumber or a tech Giant. 

The people who told us "Biden is mentally healthy" for the last 4 years are busy telling us what's wrong with us lol. 

This sh1t is way beyond crazy now. 

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Even Steve Bannon is raking Musk through the coals. 

 

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

OK collusion boy/vaxtard/Biden apologist. 

Truth hurts, RWNJ.  That’s why you got nothing to say but insults. Go back to your fake news bubble 

[BeaverFever]

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

The right in general tends towards meritocracy. 

MAGA supporters tend to be low income and, low education hardly the “results driven” high achievers you would have us believe  They also operate on emotion rather than knowledge understanding or logic  

Trumps appointments easily disprove that claim. Besides The MAGA base trends to be low income, low achievement, blaming others for their low station - the exact opposite of merit. 

Edited December 29, 2024 by BeaverFever

[User]

1 minute ago, BeaverFever said:

 Trumps appointments easily disprove that claim. Besides The MAGA base trends to be low income, low achievement, blaming others for their low station - the exact opposite of merit. 

They are appointments... they exist to advance Trump's agenda because Trump is one man and can't head every executive department himself. 

Cabinet positions have nothing to do with meritocracy. 

It is the Democrats who literally base their campaign on building a coalition of victims.