Poilievre Is The Only Option

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said:

Right now, it's more important to put on a United front against the Trump tariffs. It's weird that PP is going on about something that is irrelevant in comparison. 

The leadership is not irrelevant in comparison.

And you don't seem to have an answer for the fact that the liberals are doing exactly the same thing.

We would have a united front if the liberals had done the right thing and Trudeau had called an election back when his time fell apart last year

Seems like you love the liberals more than you love Canada. Canada becomes a convenient thing for you to pretend that you care about if it means you get to take a cheap shot at the conservatives, even if you can't explain why the liberals are doing the same thing.

[eyeball]

50 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

The leadership is not irrelevant in comparison.

It's the carbon tax that's mice nuts. PP's still sucking on them like they contain mothers milk. They're dried up shriveled and yesterdays mice nuts.

PP's going to faint the minute he's tasked to suck back anything bigger than an apple.

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

It's the carbon tax that's mice nuts. PP's still sucking on them like they contain mothers milk. They're dried up shriveled and yesterdays mice nuts.

Every liberal leadership candidate is mentioning the carbon tax daily. What they'd replace it with, the fact they'd cancel it, etc etc 

Hell even the dippers brought it up that they'd axe it recently  

Yet strangely you didn't mention that your liberal and leftist heros are 'sucking' on it. 

Although i do appreciate you keeping up with the lefty tradition on this board of if you're losing a discussion, immediately go to an oddly specific homosexual fantasy   LOLOL

And speaking of, is it me or is this the quietest liberal leadership race in history? No debates scheduled, not much media attention....  guess they're going for a coronation. 

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2 hours ago, eyeball said:

It's the carbon tax that's mice nuts. PP's still sucking on them like they contain mothers milk. They're dried up shriveled and yesterdays mice nuts.

PP's going to faint the minute he's tasked to suck back anything bigger than an apple.

 

Exactly. CdnFox often twists people's words around, but I am glad you picked that up. 

Edited February 1 by DUI_Offender

[Aristides]

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Every liberal leadership candidate is mentioning the carbon tax daily. What they'd replace it with, the fact they'd cancel it, etc etc 

Hell even the dippers brought it up that they'd axe it recently  

Yet strangely you didn't mention that your liberal and leftist heros are 'sucking' on it. 

Although i do appreciate you keeping up with the lefty tradition on this board of if you're losing a discussion, immediately go to an oddly specific homosexual fantasy   LOLOL

And speaking of, is it me or is this the quietest liberal leadership race in history? No debates scheduled, not much media attention....  guess they're going for a coronation. 

Because now they have made PP's main talking point irrelevant. 

PP won't have a target until a new leader is chosen on March 9th. They have over a month to schedule any debates.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

Because now they have made PP's main talking point irrelevant. 

PP won't have a target until a new leader is chosen on March 9th. They have over a month to schedule any debates.

The polls would suggest otherwise. More than 50% of the people do not believe the liberals will cancel the carbon tax. About 2/3'ds desperately want it gone.

It's still going to be a main talking point. The libs will continue the carbon tax OR they will replace it with something and i bet they don't have the plan ready for the election, so people will be left to wonder what fresh hell the libs will visit on them. 

It's not going to be the only issue that's for sure, and depending on what happens with trump it may well take a serious backseat to the OTHER issue the cpc is polling better than the liberals on    but it'll be a factor for sure 

[I am Groot]

On 1/27/2025 at 9:22 AM, DUI_Offender said:

Trudeau is a flake, who obviously treated Alberta bad, but at the very least, he need a good job with COVID, and handled Trump well in his first term. This is why Trump hates him. Trump is used to defeating his political adversaries, and only accepts them, once they are defeated, and bend the knee to him.

PP is a glorified paper boy, and all he does in criticise Trudeau. Canadians hate him, and there is a good chance the Liberal could form a strong minority Government, depending if the Canadian Government weeds out interference from Musk.

Are you on the booze again?

[I am Groot]

22 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

 

Time well spent...

As opposed to what? He's not in the government. What has Trudeau been saying? Almost nothing.

20 hours ago, herbie said:

He has no other chants besides Axe Duh Tax.
As I've said it's a hard choice. Career politician with vague promises or someone with actual economic skills. Oh just SO hard....

And has Carney offered up other than vague promises? Promises that often are the complete opposite of what he's been saying with absolute certainty and conviction for the last ten years.

Edited February 1 by I am Groot

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3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

The polls would suggest otherwise. More than 50% of the people do not believe the liberals will cancel the carbon tax. About 2/3'ds desperately want it gone.

It's still going to be a main talking point.

It's literally irrelevant thanks to the Orange Hitler down south. 25% tariffs on everything we export can literally sink us financially, especially when the justification for the tariffs are based on lies.

Nobody is going to care about the Carbon Tax, with Trump wanting to annex Canada, and threats to ruin us financially. Do you think Austria Poland or Czechoslovakia  cared about a relatively minor tax, when the Nazis were pushing them around, threatening invasion?

Edited February 1 by DUI_Offender

[Aristides]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

The polls would suggest otherwise. More than 50% of the people do not believe the liberals will cancel the carbon tax. About 2/3'ds desperately want it gone.

It's still going to be a main talking point. The libs will continue the carbon tax OR they will replace it with something and i bet they don't have the plan ready for the election, so people will be left to wonder what fresh hell the libs will visit on them. 

It's not going to be the only issue that's for sure, and depending on what happens with trump it may well take a serious backseat to the OTHER issue the cpc is polling better than the liberals on    but it'll be a factor for sure 

A new PM can cancel it before an election, I'm not even sure they need pariiament. If they make cancelling it  the first order of business in parliament before a confidence vote is PP going to vote against it?

[eyeball]

If the Liberals were smart they'd jack up the price of Canada's oil to the US today. US gas prices at the pump not to mention Trump's supporters, would likely be jumping before they could even get Trump's fat ass rolled out of bed on Tuesday.

The only option in the next election will be which party caves or doesn't cave to Trump.

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24 minutes ago, eyeball said:

If the Liberals were smart they'd jack up the price of Canada's oil to the US today. US gas prices at the pump not to mention Trump's supporters, would likely be jumping before they could even get Trump's fat ass rolled out of bed on Tuesday.

The only option in the next election will be which party caves or doesn't cave to Trump.

Danielle Smith is a coward and a appeaser. 96% of Alberta businesses want Smith and Alberta to retaliate dollar to dollar to trump's tariffs. Smith tried and failed to appease Trump. She also weakened Canada's position when it comes to negotiations. Her political career may be over soon enough. She now has the lowest approval ratings in Alberta history for any Premier, and the lowest currently in Canada.

[herbie]

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

What has Trudeau been saying? Almost nothing.

Quite obvious that you simply refuse to hear him if you're so butt-stubbornly block headed to make a statement like that.

[Army Guy]

19 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

Right now, it's more important to put on a United front against the Trump tariffs. It's weird that PP is going on about something that is irrelevant in comparison. 

He has already started lots of times he is in favor of counter tariffs, and fighting back, what is not united about that....He is official opposition, not his job to solve this , it is the liberals' 

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5 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

He has already started lots of times he is in favor of counter tariffs, and fighting back, what is not united about that....He is official opposition, not his job to solve this , it is the liberals' 

At the end of the day, we are Canadians regardless of political affiliation. The NDP, Green Party, 9 Premiers, and  and even Doug Ford have formed a united front. 

Yet this a**hole keeps up bringing irrelevant things. It's no wonder PP is losing support. he has no backbone. 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

It's literally irrelevant thanks to the Orange Hitler down south

Nope, in fact if anything that will breathe a little more relevance into it. How to make our economy more competitive and how to make it more profitable and successful and encourage business investment so that we can have a stronger internal economy to be more independent from the states will be a major playing angle.

To a degree that'll play into a larger environmentalism. If you know had spent the last 10 years worrying about making economies strong in Canada and getting our oil to market we wouldn't be vulnerable to the united states right now. It would be a hell of a lot harder for them to be putting tariffs on us if we weren't as reliant on them and could increase exports to other countries of oil.

It's all going to come up kiddo. If anything the fact that he pushed the GST which now everybody agrees is useless instead of preparing our country for trump when he knew for 4 years that trump coming back was a possibility is going to weigh the liberals down

[I am Groot]

17 hours ago, eyeball said:

If the Liberals were smart they'd jack up the price of Canada's oil to the US today. US gas prices at the pump not to mention Trump's supporters, would likely be jumping before they could even get Trump's fat ass rolled out of bed on Tuesday.

The only option in the next election will be which party caves or doesn't cave to Trump.

Presumably, that would be Carney since he has no real attachment to Canada. He's already got triple citizenship and has spent half his life abroad. Why would he oppose Canada joining the US as its 51st state?

On 1/31/2025 at 10:29 PM, DUI_Offender said:

Right now, it's more important to put on a United front against the Trump tariffs. It's weird that PP is going on about something that is irrelevant in comparison. 

Why is Carney droning on about climate change? 

[Gaétan]

The Ontario NDP and National are not an option for Canadians because we saw the leader of the Ontario NDP expel a member of Parliament from her party because she opposed the Palestinian genocide and the leader of the national NDP call protesters who opposed the genocide anti-Semitic. The Conservatives, the Liberals and the NDP must be excluded from the vote of Canadians because they have no morality.

[I am Groot]

1 hour ago, Gaétan said:

The Ontario NDP and National are not an option for Canadians because we saw the leader of the Ontario NDP expel a member of Parliament from her party because she opposed the Palestinian genocide and the leader of the national NDP call protesters who opposed the genocide anti-Semitic. The Conservatives, the Liberals and the NDP must be excluded from the vote of Canadians because they have no morality.

Guess you'll be voting for the Communists again, eh?

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Presumably, that would be Carney since he has no real attachment to Canada. He's already got triple citizenship and has spent half his life abroad. Why would he oppose Canada joining the US as its 51st state?

Because he's not a dingbat would be my guess.

If anything his global connections could be an asset when distancing ourselves from America and we go looking for better partners.

[CdnFox]

34 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Because he's not a dingbat would be my guess.

 

But he is a dingbat

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If anything his global connections could be an asset when distancing ourselves from America and we go looking for better partners.

Not at all. If anything he will sell Canada out to those global connections for money. This guy couldn't care less about Canada.

[eyeball]

22 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

If anything he will sell Canada out to those global connections for money.

So like, they write him a cheque or drop off a duffle-bag full of cash or something - how does that work exactly? 

[Zeitgeist]

22 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

Danielle Smith is a coward and an appeaser. 96% of Alberta businesses want Smith and Alberta to retaliate dollar to dollar to trump's tariffs. Smith tried and failed to appease Trump. She also weakened Canada's position when it comes to negotiations. Her political career may be over soon enough. She now has the lowest approval ratings in Alberta history for any Premier, and the lowest currently in Canada.

The Canadian federal government can override any Alberta policies on exports to the U.S.   She has to be careful.  Stopping oil exports to the U.S. badly impacts Texas oil refineries and raises gas prices at U.S. pumps instantly.  Alberta will have to make sacrifices in this trade war like other parts of Canada.  If Trump gets the message that he can impose unfair tariffs and break trade agreements without repercussions, he’ll continue to do this.  

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

So like, they write him a cheque or drop off a duffle-bag full of cash or something - how does that work exactly? 

Well of course for other liberals it was a duffel bag full of cash, but the more current way of doing things is to pay him back after his time in office by offering him directorship on a number of boards where he does virtually nothing he gets paid half a million a year for each of the boards. Charities and environmental groups are some favorites.  These have replaced somewhat those orgs the  British used to call quangos,  which frequently did the same thing. 

Think about it. He already advises investment groups to buy pipelines and oil production in brazil and other places like that.  All he has to do to make them more money is prevent canadian oil from getting to market and compteting. Which he's already pushing for.  That will be worth billions to them, a cushy position when he's done will be no problem. ETc etc.

 

[Army Guy]

On 2/1/2025 at 1:42 AM, eyeball said:

It's the carbon tax that's mice nuts. PP's still sucking on them like they contain mothers milk. They're dried up shriveled and yesterdays mice nuts.

PP's going to faint the minute he's tasked to suck back anything bigger than an apple.

 

Not sure why the left is even chirping about PP, the guy is not even in power and still is an unknown for what he will do well except the fact he eats baby's , beats seals, and is just a terrible person over all  ....and yet we have had 10 years of the liberal/ NDP coalition and what have we to show for that, other than record debt levels, nothing of any real value.....anyone or anything could do a better job than justin, it's really not that high of a bar to leap over...all that and we did not even mention all the lies, deception, pocket filling crooks, ethic violations',  and much more. The left has obviously not had enough of all that they want more....well it becasue to them nothing is wrong with the liberals or ndp, it's becasue they are one and the same....

Maybe you right PP will faint once he see just how broken this nation really is...