Russia’s propaganda machine is running roughshod in Canada

[Dougie93]

I didn't even know these shirts existed until the Commie Canadians told me about them

but I'm definitely getting one now

the perfect combo with a MAGA hat

 

 

[Radiorum]

Ronald Reagan is turning over in his grave

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Radiorum said:

Ronald Reagan is turning over in his grave

Reagan would have been the first in line to fight back against the severe abuses of the systems the democrats have been relying on lately. Weaponizing the courts, persecuting political opponents, rhetoric to the point where it encourages violence, which was continued even after an assassination attempt, the list is endless

[taxme]

On 12/6/2024 at 5:13 PM, DUI_Offender said:

Perhaps I just did not notice you, since when you post, I don;t read anything you say.

Regardless, welcome back!

Well, it looks to me like you just did read something that i said, buffoon. 

As i told you already, i never left. Hello? 

Edited December 9, 2024 by taxme

[NAME REMOVED]

On 12/8/2024 at 10:49 AM, CdnFox said:

Reagan would have been the first in line to fight back against the severe abuses of the systems the democrats have been relying on lately. Weaponizing the courts, persecuting political opponents, rhetoric to the point where it encourages violence, which was continued even after an assassination attempt, the list is endless

Reagan would have been embarrassed to be Republican today. Reagan was very against protectionist measure, especially tariffs on foreign imports. Reagan would have also despised Trump, as Reagan, for his faults, believed in uniting people, and leading them to economic prosperity.

It should also be noted that Reagan stood up to Russia, and paved the way for American victory in the Cold War. If Reagan was President in 2024, Trump and many other Republicans would be in jail, charged with Treason, for meeting with Putin secretly, and enabling him access to US military secrets.

Edited December 10, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[NAME REMOVED]

Meet the right-wing Canadian influencers accused of collaborating with an alleged Russian propaganda scheme

 

Tenet Media founder Lauren Chen allegedly took funds from pro-Moscow outlet The social media accounts of two of Canada's most vocal far-right pundits have fallen unusually silent after U.S. officials accused them of being collaborators of a covert Russian propaganda campaign.

On Wednesday, the U.S. Justice Department unsealed an indictment (new window) against two Russian nationals, accusing them of setting up a conservative media outlet as a front for pro-Kremlin propaganda.

The media outlet was unnamed in the indictment (new window), but it was clear from details within that the charges referred to Tenet Media, founded in 2023 by the Canadian influencer known as Lauren Chen and her husband, Liam Donavan.

Among the people they hired last year was Chen's longtime friend and occasional collaborator Lauren Southern, another Canadian far-right influencer with a massive social media following.

In the few short months it operated, the outlet produced a steady stream of content favourable to Donald Trump, including an appearance by his daughter-in-law, Lara Trump.  Since the indictment was made public, several Tenet Media collaborators have come forward to claim they were unaware of how the company was funded.

These allegations clearly show that I and other commentators were the victims of this scheme, Dave Rubin, a right-wing pundit with 2.45 million YouTube subscribers, wrote on X, formerly known as Twitter. But Southern and Chen have yet to speak publicly. Reached by phone on Thursday, Chen told CBC News, We're not commenting at this time. Southern did not respond to email.

Neither has posted anything online since the indictment was made public. Neither Chen, Donavan nor Southern are the subject of criminal charges, and none are named in the indictment.

But the allegations have jeopardized their standing within right-wing circles.

Chen has already been fired from another conservative website, Glenn Beck's The Blaze. Her YouTube channel, which had more than 572,000 subscribers, was terminated on Thursday. And her bio page on the website for Turning Points USA, a pro-Trump campus activist group, has been deleted.

YouTube also removed Tenet Media's channel on Thursday, saying it violated our community guidelines.

 

Russia accused of using influencers to meddle in the 2024 U.S. election

Washington has accused Moscow of running a covert propaganda campaign to meddle in the 2024 U.S. presidential election, with documents revealing a connection to Canadian far-right influencers Lauren Chen and her husband, Liam Donovan.

'Broader conservative apparatus'

Born in Quebec and raised in Hong Kong, Chen rose to fame as a YouTuber under the moniker Roaming Millennial. She was an outspoken supporter of Trump in the 2016 election and an eager soldier in the early years of the culture wars.

She's situated as part of this broader conservative apparatus that seeks to instill social and cultural values that align with certain interests concerning anti-immigration, anti-LGBTQ rights and anti-feminism, said Eviane Leidig, who studied both Chen and Southern for her book Women of the Far Right, released last year.

As her subscriber base grew into the hundreds of thousands, Chen began making appearances on popular conservative outlets such as Fox News and the Daily Wire.

Content bankrolled by Russia 'not free speech,' says former FBI director

Frank Figliuzzi, former assistant director for counterintelligence at the FBI, explains why it's important to take the Department of Justice's indictment of Russian sponsored media outlets seriously, even if you agree with those outlets' opinions.

In the indictment, Chen appears to be referred to as Founder-1 and is said to have begun working for the parent company of RT — the Russian state-run news outlet — in the spring of 2021. RT was forced to stop operating in both the U.S. and Canada as part of government-imposed sanctions in response to Russia's 2022 invasion of Ukraine.

But in the timeline laid out by U.S. officials, Founder-1 began recruiting conservative personalities with lucrative offers in 2023 for a new media outlet, all while being paid to do so by RT operatives. From the details provided in the indictment, Chen was allegedly billing RT in part through Roaming Millennial Inc., a company registered in the Montreal area, where her mother lived.

Tenet Media was eventually registered in Tennessee as a subsidiary of Chen's Canadian company. When Tenet Media launched in November, the RT operatives are suspected of having directed the two founders how to cover certain stories and what content to circulate on social media.

Among the examples listed in the indictment, the operatives instructed Chen to produce content that blamed the U.S. and Ukraine for the March 2024 terror attack in Moscow that was claimed by ISIS.

Southern helped popularize extremist theory 

Since Tenet Media began publishing content, Southern has produced several videos for the outlet focusing on Canadian issues.

Their titles range from Canada Is Becoming A COMMUNIST HELLHOLE, which compares Canada to the U.S.S.R., and Mean Tweets = Life in PRISON in Canada?! which criticizes the proposed Online Harms Act (new window).

If you think naively that the Russians don't care as much about influencing Canadian thought, penetrating the Canadian government at all levels — I'm here to tell you they care deeply about shaping how you think, how you vote and sowing chaos and discord, said Richard Fadden, former director of CSIS.

Edited December 15, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[NAME REMOVED]

The Russians essentially want to divide us as Canadians and have been well documented in doing so, in America. Some of the narratives they push are;

-Ukraine and NATO are responsible for the war with Russia

-spread anti Ukraine sentiment

-racism against immigrants

-racism against people of colour, and other disadvantaged groups.

-anti LGBTQ sentiment

-pro Trump bias

-weakening of national unity in Canada and other Western Nations

 

It's clear that Russia and the influences that they have paid off have had tremendous success, in achieving their goals. As for this forum, there is evidence that at least a couple of accounts are acting in bad faith, sewing division in Canada. The issue, is to determine who is being paid off by Russia, and who has been legitimately brainwashed by Russian propaganda.

If Russia is prepared to give Lauren Chen $100,000 per podcast, to spread Russian-based disinformation, and propaganda, I have absolutely no doubt that there are people on this forum who may have financial incentives to do so here. It was only 2 weeks ago where some supposed popular "Canadian" social media accounts such as Edmonton's Yegwave, and Toronto's 6ixBuzzTV were found to have originated from Russia. 

Edited December 15, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[Gaétan]

On 12/6/2024 at 1:03 PM, DUI_Offender said:

Moscow’s disinformation is often shared unwittingly by Canadians who don’t know its origin or purpose. Canada needs to fight it with stronger actions.

 

The emerging breadth and depth of Russian disinformation tactics represent a clear and present danger to Canadian sovereignty and freedom. Just as troubling, some Canadians consider Canada immune to Russian propaganda. It’s a mistaken belief that only helps these disinformation campaigns spread and take root.

Modern-day Russian propaganda is relentless, pernicious and is widespread globally. It aims to dull critical thinking, divide society and undermine democracy. It challenges our commitment to open debate by replacing informed critical conversations with paid lies. Media and social influencers, academics, journalists, community leaders, politicians and others are increasingly caught in the dragnet of these surreptitious tactics.

The many faces of Russian propaganda

Propaganda created or supported by the Kremlin and spread from within the West is a vital component of Russia’s war against Ukraine. It aims to sow confusion about who is to blame for the war and doubt about the effectiveness or desirability of western support for Ukraine.

Recent high-level warnings of Russian’s malicious actions include:

– Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s recent statement under oath that Russia is directly funding the prominent American provocateur Tucker Carlson to promote disinformation.

– U.S. justice department revelations of the use of a Canadian-owned media company to spread Kremlin-generated propaganda.

– Witnesses appearing before a House of Commons committee to raise concern that some members of the Russian state-run Valdai Club might be working as Russian propagandists.

Many other examples abound.

Yet, it’s an open question of how well the Canadian public and some of the country’s political leadership understand what is happening. Some visible forms of disinformation include angry online rants filled with outrageous and obvious lies about Russia’s war against Ukraine and bot and troll campaigns on social media.

But these are not the primary threat.

Rather, the Kremlin promotes a softer, more insidious approach that moves away from the sledgehammer to one based on the scalpel, which seeks to split open divides in western societies. This is achieved by funding content that appears domestic while furthering Moscow’s agenda and is unwittingly spread by those who don’t realize its origin and purpose.

A key issue we are facing in Canada is the difficulty distinguishing between Russian propaganda and well-informed, constructive debate. As propaganda gets absorbed into everyday discourse, our democratic debates are reframed and made increasingly inflammatory. Polarization occurs.

Moscow relentlessly exploits western citizens’ right to freedom of speech by insidiously inserting paid propaganda — chiefly into online networks — into those dialogues. Even for cultural, opinion, and political leaders, telling fact from fiction and propaganda from legitimate speech is not easy.

Unfortunately, pointing this out often raises angry and defensive responses among those who find meaning or belonging in online communities, and even from experts saturated with Russian misinformation. In turn, those who raise the issue can find themselves under attack and branded as opponents to free speech.

Safeguarding freedom of speech requires simultaneously preventing the distortion of facts targeted by Russian state-propaganda while fostering broad, vibrant, open, well-informed public conversation.

War on Ukraine: conflicting narratives

In the context of the Russian war on Ukraine, it is critical to remember that Russia does not hope to rally the West behind its illegal invasion. It uses its propaganda machine not to build Russia up but to tear Ukraine down.

Taking its lead from Putin, Russian propaganda presents Ukraine’s continued resistance as futile or threatening escalation. Ukraine’s capitulation or acceptance of Russia’s partial conquest is framed as peacemaking.

It presents western support for Ukraine as prolonging the war and obscures the obvious, that Russia can choose to halt its war and withdraw from Ukraine at any moment. And, right out of 1984, it blames Ukraine or NATO for the war that Russia started.

Counteraction needed

As the trickle of verifiable news of Russia’s interference in our democracy turns into a flood, and as Moscow continues its war against Ukraine, it is time for Canadians to act. Simply turning a blind eye to Russian propaganda will neither neutralize it nor make it go away. Canada is not waging an offensive information war against Russia, but we are most certainly a strategic target for Russian disinformation.

Complacency will only invite an intensification of disinformation efforts and amplify the negative consequences. Fact-checking campaigns are worthy but reactive and do not stop the disinformation perpetrators. We know what Russia is doing with its disinformation campaign. There are numerous remedies that could be considered. These range from diplomatic expulsions to legislation to public-awareness building to supporting independent organizations in their pre-bunking interventions and more.

Russia is actively attacking our democracy. Remaining on the current course is not an option.

source; https://policyoptions.irpp.org/magazines/december-2024/russia-propaganda-canada/

Can you give examples of Russian disinformation

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

Meet the right-wing Canadian influencers accused of collaborating with an alleged Russian propaganda scheme

 

Tenet Media founder Lauren Chen allegedly took funds from pro-Moscow outlet The social media accounts of two of Canada's most vocal far-right pundits have fallen unusually silent after U.S. officials accused them of being collaborators of a covert Russian propaganda campaign.

On Wednesday, the U.S. Justice Department unsealed an indictment (new window) against two Russian nationals, accusing them of setting up a conservative media outlet as a front for pro-Kremlin propaganda.

The media outlet was unnamed in the indictment (new window), but it was clear from details within that the charges referred to Tenet Media, founded in 2023 by the Canadian influencer known as Lauren Chen and her husband, Liam Donavan.

Among the people they hired last year was Chen's longtime friend and occasional collaborator Lauren Southern, another Canadian far-right influencer with a massive social media following.

In the few short months it operated, the outlet produced a steady stream of content favourable to Donald Trump, including an appearance by his daughter-in-law, Lara Trump.  Since the indictment was made public, several Tenet Media collaborators have come forward to claim they were unaware of how the company was funded.

These allegations clearly show that I and other commentators were the victims of this scheme, Dave Rubin, a right-wing pundit with 2.45 million YouTube subscribers, wrote on X, formerly known as Twitter. But Southern and Chen have yet to speak publicly. Reached by phone on Thursday, Chen told CBC News, We're not commenting at this time. Southern did not respond to email.

Neither has posted anything online since the indictment was made public. Neither Chen, Donavan nor Southern are the subject of criminal charges, and none are named in the indictment.

But the allegations have jeopardized their standing within right-wing circles.

Chen has already been fired from another conservative website, Glenn Beck's The Blaze. Her YouTube channel, which had more than 572,000 subscribers, was terminated on Thursday. And her bio page on the website for Turning Points USA, a pro-Trump campus activist group, has been deleted.

YouTube also removed Tenet Media's channel on Thursday, saying it violated our community guidelines.

 

Russia accused of using influencers to meddle in the 2024 U.S. election

Washington has accused Moscow of running a covert propaganda campaign to meddle in the 2024 U.S. presidential election, with documents revealing a connection to Canadian far-right influencers Lauren Chen and her husband, Liam Donovan.

'Broader conservative apparatus'

Born in Quebec and raised in Hong Kong, Chen rose to fame as a YouTuber under the moniker Roaming Millennial. She was an outspoken supporter of Trump in the 2016 election and an eager soldier in the early years of the culture wars.

She's situated as part of this broader conservative apparatus that seeks to instill social and cultural values that align with certain interests concerning anti-immigration, anti-LGBTQ rights and anti-feminism, said Eviane Leidig, who studied both Chen and Southern for her book Women of the Far Right, released last year.

As her subscriber base grew into the hundreds of thousands, Chen began making appearances on popular conservative outlets such as Fox News and the Daily Wire.

Content bankrolled by Russia 'not free speech,' says former FBI director

Frank Figliuzzi, former assistant director for counterintelligence at the FBI, explains why it's important to take the Department of Justice's indictment of Russian sponsored media outlets seriously, even if you agree with those outlets' opinions.

In the indictment, Chen appears to be referred to as Founder-1 and is said to have begun working for the parent company of RT — the Russian state-run news outlet — in the spring of 2021. RT was forced to stop operating in both the U.S. and Canada as part of government-imposed sanctions in response to Russia's 2022 invasion of Ukraine.

But in the timeline laid out by U.S. officials, Founder-1 began recruiting conservative personalities with lucrative offers in 2023 for a new media outlet, all while being paid to do so by RT operatives. From the details provided in the indictment, Chen was allegedly billing RT in part through Roaming Millennial Inc., a company registered in the Montreal area, where her mother lived.

Tenet Media was eventually registered in Tennessee as a subsidiary of Chen's Canadian company. When Tenet Media launched in November, the RT operatives are suspected of having directed the two founders how to cover certain stories and what content to circulate on social media.

Among the examples listed in the indictment, the operatives instructed Chen to produce content that blamed the U.S. and Ukraine for the March 2024 terror attack in Moscow that was claimed by ISIS.

Southern helped popularize extremist theory 

Since Tenet Media began publishing content, Southern has produced several videos for the outlet focusing on Canadian issues.

Their titles range from Canada Is Becoming A COMMUNIST HELLHOLE, which compares Canada to the U.S.S.R., and Mean Tweets = Life in PRISON in Canada?! which criticizes the proposed Online Harms Act (new window).

If you think naively that the Russians don't care as much about influencing Canadian thought, penetrating the Canadian government at all levels — I'm here to tell you they care deeply about shaping how you think, how you vote and sowing chaos and discord, said Richard Fadden, former director of CSIS.

So nothing proven, no nothing substantiated just more rumors about the Russians are coming

Yawn. 

4 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

The Russians essentially want to divide us as Canadians

There's no need. We already have to know who works far more efficiently and harder at it than they do. Nobody has done more to split the country apart than he has, the Russians are rank amateurs by comparison.

[NAME REMOVED]

23 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

So nothing proven, no nothing substantiated just more rumors about the Russians are coming

Yawn. 

There's no need. We already have to know who works far more efficiently and harder at it than they do. Nobody has done more to split the country apart than he has, the Russians are rank amateurs by comparison.

You have a vested interest, in discrediting what has been known for nearly a decade, since I truly believe that you are one of the bad faith actors. There is probably more. Western nations really dropped the ball with Russian infiltration into social media. 

You will never say anything negative about your Russian handlers, or any pro-Kremlin position (Ukraine War, Trump, compassion and empathy for minorities, etc). These would run counter-intuitive to Russian disinformation. 

Nor, will you ever advocate for a united Canada, and to put aside our differences for the good of our nation

Edited December 15, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[CdnFox]

8 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

You have a vested interest, in discrediting what has been known for nearly a decade,

You have a vested interested in lying about what's been known at all never mind for a decade. The show you are talking about hasn't even been around for decades.

And you don't truly believe anything other than you would truly like to have another drink.

The only people that substantially interfere in our elections is china and you don't want to talk about them because the people they help is the liberals. In the meantime once again, you have nothing substantial and you're so angry about it and you so badly wanted to be my fault that you don't but you yap and nip like A retarded chihuahua whose peeing itself and everybody can see it. 

There really is nothing here. The Russians probably give a few bucks to virtually anybody who they see as being challenging the government or questioning things. Puts pressure on the government and they like that. But that's a long long long way away from actually being involved with them in any way and you've got nothing that shows otherwise in any kind of substantial fashion.

So you attack me with utterly dumb attacks because otherwise you have to go to bed a failure. Bad news. Bed's still waiting and you're still a failure. 

 

[NAME REMOVED]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

 

There really is nothing here. The Russians probably give a few bucks to virtually anybody who they see as being challenging the government or questioning things. Puts pressure on the government and they like that. But that's a long long long way away from actually being involved with them in any way and you've got nothing that shows otherwise in any kind of substantial fashion.

 

 

How much did they pay you?

[CdnFox]

10 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

How much did they pay you?

LOL you're the one trying to be disruptive kiddo   I'm the voice of reason, you're the one who fake quotes people and makes stupid claims and then attacks people when it's proven wrong    And  you spend all your time accusing everyone ELSE of being a russian.  Hmmmmmm.  How much do they pay indeed  

[Gaétan]

One would complain that foreigners would interfere in the political debate, but the real enemies of democracy come from within the country. For months and even years, the media has been talking only about the Conservatives and the Liberals, which makes it a real achievement for the Green Party, which we never talk about, to elect an MP.

[herbie]

So which foreign country is most actively interfering with political debate at this time?
And why continue to pretend they aren't?

[myata]

Recently, while traveling in Europe for professional reasons I spoke to the locals and on couple of occasions I noticed and was disturbed by the similarity of the sentiment: elites are lying and conspiring against the regular folk; all politics is dirty; democracy doesn't work. And interestingly, at least understanding if not tacit support of Russia's aggressive behavior. These weren't necessarily poor disadvantaged people, some homeowners others on a break traveling across Europe. Still that reality of their everyday life in prosperous modern societies somehow didn't connect with their sentiment. I wonder if after much research and trials in some totalitarian lab someone invented a corrosive mix, cocktail of half-truth, lies resembling of truth, just the right degree of forceful to angry sentiment and a target/scapegoat that works effectively on weak and/or relaxed/unprepared minds? Which is now been spread through many channels with the purpose of corroding Western democracies from within? The similarity of the message is quite remarkable despite the individuals being from the opposite ends of Europe. Granted, no democracy is perfect but this nihilistic, destructive aspect of it was both noticeable and worrisome. We cannot forget that there are many forces in this world which are no friends of democracy and would love to see it toppled. And we should find the fine line between the freedom to speak an honest opinion, and uncontrolled and massive spreading of hostile propaganda. Freedom of speech has nothing to do with a free season to pump and spread lies.

[Nationalist]

On 12/6/2024 at 1:59 PM, NAME REMOVED said:

^This.

This is a prime example of what a Russian asset would post, to deflect from scrutiny. To attack the media. Freedom of the press is essential part of any democratic nation. The Russians have been known to directly take aim at the free press, and sew the seeds of distrust of them.  You are just a pawn in their game. 

I find this both insulting and childish. You are a fcking m0ron if you really believe so many of us are "Russian assets".

Go play in the street child.

[Nationalist]

On 12/8/2024 at 11:22 AM, Radiorum said:

Ronald Reagan is turning over in his grave

Ronald Reagan would have been proud of what Trump is doing. He's acting with conviction and with guts.

Go pound sand you silly person.

[Radiorum]

22 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Ronald Reagan would have been proud of what Trump is doing. He's acting with conviction and with guts.

Well, I can think about a few things that contradict this ridiculous assertion.

Consider:

On Jan. 13, 1982, a plane taking off in Washington crashed into a bridge over the Potomac River. Reagan’s reaction was diametrically opposed to Trump’s reaction to the recent Washington crash.

Quote

Out of tragedy Reagan sought to encourage, to praise courage, to console and lift up the heroes. (he began the tradition of presidents inviting “heroes in the balcony” to attend the State of the Union). Trump chose a different option at his Potomac press conference, seeking to blame, impugn and tear down. It was ugly.

Consider Reagan’s quotes about trade and Canada:

Quote

 

“One of the key factors behind (America’s) great prosperity is the open trade policy that allows the American people to freely exchange goods and services with free people around the world,” Reagan argued. “The freedom to trade is not a new issue for America. In 1776 our Founding Fathers signed the Declaration of Independence, charging the British with a number of offences, among them, and I quote, ‘cutting off our trade with all parts of the world.’ ”

“Our peaceful trading partners are not our enemies; they are our allies,” Reagan said to President Trump over the distant horizon. “We should beware of the demagogues who are ready to declare a trade war against our friends — weakening our economy, our national security, and the entire free world — all while cynically waving the American flag.”

 

 

And I wonder what Reagan would make of Trump’s recently announced plan to meet with Putin and Xi in order that they enter into a defense deal requiring the US cut their defense budget by half.

Reagan would not approve.

 

 

You apparently know very little about Reagan, and understand even less about Trump.

[Nationalist]

11 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

Well, I can think about a few things that contradict this ridiculous assertion.

Consider:

On Jan. 13, 1982, a plane taking off in Washington crashed into a bridge over the Potomac River. Reagan’s reaction was diametrically opposed to Trump’s reaction to the recent Washington crash.

Consider Reagan’s quotes about trade and Canada:

 

And I wonder what Reagan would make of Trump’s recently announced plan to meet with Putin and Xi in order that they enter into a defense deal requiring the US cut their defense budget by half.

Reagan would not approve.

 

 

You apparently know very little about Reagan, and understand even less about Trump.

Ronald Reagan wasn't afraid to talk to his counterparts.

You apparently are a m0ron.

[myata]

On 12/7/2024 at 12:19 PM, Dougie93 said:

but I'm definitely getting one now

the perfect combo with a MAGA hat

Isn't it the coming out season for all and any kind of thuggery? Hitler of this century? That's our bud! Nothin to be ashamed of and proud. What's there to add to the confession?

Edited February 18 by myata

[Radiorum]

37 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Ronald Reagan wasn't afraid to talk to his counterparts.

You apparently are a m0ron.

That's it? That's all you got? How am I supposed to take you seriously?

[Nationalist]

31 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

That's it? That's all you got? How am I supposed to take you seriously?

Ya gits wut ya pays fer sonny.

You're a m0ron. Not worth a lot of effort.

[Legato]

20 hours ago, herbie said:

So which foreign country is most actively interfering with political debate at this time?
And why continue to pretend they aren't?

Wakanda

[Army Guy]

On 12/6/2024 at 3:34 PM, Michael Hardner said:

Any conservative would be concerned that foreign countries are thought to have worked against Patrick Brown in his leadership aspirations.    

According to the inquiry with Justice Marie-Josée Hogue   there was NO foreign interference that she could find....the exact opposite of what the parliamentary inquiry found....they provided proof that there was atleast 11 names including other conservatives that may have willingly or unwilling help a foreign power...This is twice now a liberal inquiry has found no interference...

Meanwhile a media source has found evidence that there is at least 50 people from all the parties that have been the subject of foreign interference...those sources have been posted in many threads here...not to mention the media reports of foreign interference of freelands campaign already... 

We all should be very concerned why there is so much interference in our politics, and why it is being covered up...