Y'all are f'ked

[taxme]

On 12/6/2024 at 8:30 AM, DUI_Offender said:

The Ukraine War will be over in 2025. The Russians will conquer their land, since Trump is going to abandon them, just like he abandoned the Kurdish people in Syria, and the Afghani Government to the Taliban.

 

Indeed, once Trump is sworn in as President, the war in Ukraine will be over. Trump did not abandon the Afghan government to the Taliban. It was comrade senile old Joe Bidumb that did that. Dumb Bidumb left billions of military equipment to the Taliban. 

I hope that Trump does abandon Nazi Zelensky from receiving any more American aid. Most of the money given to Zelensky went into his own personal bank account and his Nazi buddies bank accounts. Some of that money even went back to crooked old Bidumb. The Ukranian war has made a lot of scumbags filthy rich and all at Americas expense. I could careless if Russia keeps the land they have conquered now. Most of the people are of Russian background. It belongs to Russia anyway. 🫠

[Aristides]

21 minutes ago, taxme said:

 

Indeed, once Trump is sworn in as President, the war in Ukraine will be over. Trump did not abandon the Afghan government to the Taliban. It was comrade senile old Joe Bidumb that did that. Dumb Bidumb left billions of military equipment to the Taliban. 

I hope that Trump does abandon Nazi Zelensky from receiving any more American aid. Most of the money given to Zelensky went into his own personal bank account and his Nazi buddies bank accounts. Some of that money even went back to crooked old Bidumb. The Ukranian war has made a lot of scumbags filthy rich and all at Americas expense. I could careless if Russia keeps the land they have conquered now. Most of the people are of Russian background. It belongs to Russia anyway. 🫠

Trump signed the agreement with the Taliban in February of 2020, it specified US troop reductions and full withdrawal within 14 months. He will abandon Ukraine as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States–Taliban_deal

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

lmao

And you think that's just because he used a gun do you? Nothing to do with the various other angles?

Most people prefer not to because guns are easier to use and more effective. You know, the same reason armies don't use swords anymore.

Yeah we're gonna need a stat for that.
 

That was Korea.

That other nations might have higher suicide rates doesn't change the fact that guns contribute to the U.,S.'s suicide rate, which is the highest of any of the western democracies.

LOL ok.

lmao "there are more serial killers than mass shooters if you change the definition of mass shooting."

There have been at least 50 mass shootings involving three or more fatalities in 2024. Do you have any evidence there's more than 50 serial killers currently at large in the U.S.A? 

No it's my way of asserting you are a stupid person. Talking about gun deaths in a conversation about guys doesn't mean one doesn't care about any other deaths anymore than talking about cancer deaths in a conversation about smoking means one doesn't care about AIDS victims, you retarded ape.

 

Guns aren't any easier to use. When you look At the hassle most of these serial killers go through preparing it would have been just as easy if not easier to use a vehicle.

Was it korea? I must have been thinking of the sarin attack in japan that killed so many, or maybe the arson attack on the animation studo

Man gets death sentence for killing 36 people in arson attack at anime studio in Japan - CBS News

Man...  so many instances of people not using guns it's hard to keep track isn't it. 

And the fact that other nations without guns have higher suicide rates proves it's not the guns and that they don't contribute.  If someone wants to kill themselves they'll do it. 

In fact i'ts not even the leading method of suicide even in the states ,that still goes to hanging/strangulation etc at 48 percent.  Guns are a fairly distant second coming in at about 33 percent.  So.... should we ban rope?

If you're going to include criminal statistics like gangs shooting gangs then i'm going to include opiod deaths   It's just not what we're talking about. But as usual you have to try to fib to make your narrative work. 

But i love that you say "oh depending on the definition" and then give your own definition  There's no set definition for what is or isn't a 'Mass" murder but clearly we're not talking about gangs shooting gangs. Unless you're a total tard. Ohhh... well maybe you were. 

As to serial killers active:  Ooopsie!  How Many Serial Killers Are On The Loose Today? - WorldAtlas 

25 to 50 active at any time, and that doesn't include inactive ones who are still out there but weren't caught. And not all of their victims will be identified as serial killer victims. 

So entirely plausable there's 50 out there right now. and the vast majority of them will kill more than 3 people. 

And yes, it's your way of admitting you're wrong and you're angry. Always has been. And no surprise, because you're wrong.  And you're angry

Sorry kid it's not the guns. As usual you're too stupid for this conversation. 

I will now await your reply where you attempt  to change the channel by focusing on an irrelevant detail and try to pretend English doesn't mean what it does before finally breaking down into weird homosexual fantasies.   

[Army Guy]

3 hours ago, Black Dog said:

And yet truck attacks are extremely rare compared to mass shootings.

 

It's actually fairly hard to stab someone with a knife and kill them. It's also very difficult to stab a lot of people in a short period of time.

And yet arson attacks are extremely rare compared to mass shootings.

And yet they remain the weapon of choice for murderers and the suicidal alike. Probably because they are widely available, affordable, transportable and of course extremely effective.

Holy shit you're retarded. Of course the time frame matters. The longer it takes to carry out an act of violence, the higher the probability someone can intervene to stop it.

There's no f*cking way there are more serial killers than mass shooting incidents, you need to stop watching so many true crime shows at the nursing home.

Well no that would be a stupid interpretation by a stupid person. 

 

Apparently it has been done, here in canada, this is what i found in a quick google search, there are a lot more if you want to look...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/canada-stabbing-saskatchewan-deaths/

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-homicide-barrhaven-berrigan-drive-arrest-1.7136366

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_stabbing_incidents_(2020–present)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Calgary_stabbing

Canada has some of the strictest fire arm laws on the planet, So why are we using US stats here why not just Canadian...Deaths by knives is just behind those that use a fire arm, 289 deaths by fire arms and 234 by knife's...and no one is talking about banning knifes...anyone ?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/433716/number-of-homicides-in-canada-by-type-of-method/

Since Justins attack on legal gun owners , crimes with fire arms have increased....suggesting his ban is not targeting the right group of canadians...everyone can see that except those that hate the fact some Canadians like guns...

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/nearly-9-per-cent-increase-of-firearms-crimes-in-canada-report-1.6748323

[Aristides]

Knives are a tool used for a multitude of things and we do ban some types of knives, but you can put a razor edge on a dinner knife if you have a mind too.

[CdnFox]

18 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Apparently it has been done, here in canada, this is what i found in a quick google search, there are a lot more if you want to look...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/canada-stabbing-saskatchewan-deaths/

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ottawa-homicide-barrhaven-berrigan-drive-arrest-1.7136366

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_stabbing_incidents_(2020–present)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Calgary_stabbing

Canada has some of the strictest fire arm laws on the planet, So why are we using US stats here why not just Canadian...Deaths by knives is just behind those that use a fire arm, 289 deaths by fire arms and 234 by knife's...and no one is talking about banning knifes...anyone ?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/433716/number-of-homicides-in-canada-by-type-of-method/

Since Justins attack on legal gun owners , crimes with fire arms have increased....suggesting his ban is not targeting the right group of canadians...everyone can see that except those that hate the fact some Canadians like guns...

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/nearly-9-per-cent-increase-of-firearms-crimes-in-canada-report-1.6748323

And amusingly when harper relaxed the rules around guns shootings went down.

Time and time and time again research has proven that stricter gun laws can help reduce gun  accidents but not violent crime. And most of the accidents are prevented through training requirements. 

 

[CdnFox]

Just now, Aristides said:

Knives are a tool used for a multitude of things and we do ban some types of knives, but you can put a razor edge on a dinner knife if you have a mind too.

Or a chef's knife. Guess what they were designed to cut really well? Meat. Guess what people are made out of  

We have had dozens and dozens of stabbings and deaths in downtown Vancouver alone, another one just happened recently. This was only a week ago

What the death of the 7-Eleven stabbing suspect in Vancouver means for the investigation | CBC News

and here's one a month or two ago where the victims were killed

Suspect named, charged in Vancouver knife attacks that left 1 dead - Maple Ridge-Pitt Meadows News

There's been many like this.  

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

 

 

I hope that Trump does abandon Nazi Zelensky from receiving any more American aid. Most of the money given to Zelensky went into his own personal bank account and his Nazi buddies bank accounts. Some of that money even went back to crooked old Bidumb. The Ukranian war has made a lot of scumbags filthy rich and all at Americas expense. I could careless if Russia keeps the land they have conquered now. Most of the people are of Russian background. It belongs to Russia anyway. 🫠

So how did a former KGB colonel and politician who's salary is $140K a year become one of  the worlds richest people and how did you become one of his useful fools?

https://www.foxbusiness.com/fox-news-world/putins-net-worth-rivals-elon-musk-cobweb-bank-accounts-assets-hides-full-value-expert-says

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2 hours ago, Aristides said:

Trump signed the agreement with the Taliban in February of 2020, it specified US troop reductions and full withdrawal within 14 months. He will abandon Ukraine as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States–Taliban_deal

Trump has a horrible history with foreign relations. Look at Syria and Afghanistan for example. First he abandons the Kurdish people, who were at odds with the Assad regime (backed by Russia). This was Trump listening to Putin. The end result was that Turkish and Syrian militia committed ethnic cleansing, drive over 500,000 Kurds out of the area.

The Trump set his sights on Afghanistan. Despite no exit plan, Trump decided to withdraw all troops to the region in 2020. When Biden came to office, he could not do much, since it was set in stone.

Trump will sellout the Ukraine so fast, and give Puting what he wants. Eventually the Russians will come back to conquer the entire country. Keep in mind, the Ukraine was deeply corrupt thanks to Viktor Yanukovych. When the Ukrainians got rid of him, they decided to establish close ties with the west, and take the steps to become a democracy. Russia did not like this, and invaded.

Trump will dismantle democracy in the United States, and attempt to prevent Ukraine from ever establishing better ties to Europe. 

 

[CdnFox]

19 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Trump has a horrible history with foreign relations. Look at Syria and Afghanistan for example. First he abandons the Kurdish people, who were at odds with the Assad regime (backed by Russia). This was Trump listening to Putin. The end result was that Turkish and Syrian militia committed ethnic cleansing, drive over 500,000 Kurds out of the area.

The Trump set his sights on Afghanistan. Despite no exit plan, Trump decided to withdraw all troops to the region in 2020. When Biden came to office, he could not do much, since it was set in stone.

Trump will sellout the Ukraine so fast, and give Puting what he wants. Eventually the Russians will come back to conquer the entire country. Keep in mind, the Ukraine was deeply corrupt thanks to Viktor Yanukovych. When the Ukrainians got rid of him, they decided to establish close ties with the west, and take the steps to become a democracy. Russia did not like this, and invaded.

Trump will dismantle democracy in the United States, and attempt to prevent Ukraine from ever establishing better ties to Europe. 

 

Virtually all a lie. And of course Biden could do something about Afghanistan don't be silly

But you guys have to tell lies 24/7 to try and justify your positions. Strangely enough I can believe what I believe with nothing but the truth.

have another drink.

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, Aristides said:

Knives are a tool used for a multitude of things and we do ban some types of knives, but you can put a razor edge on a dinner knife if you have a mind too.

And just for the record:

How random stabbing sprees became routine in Vancouver | National Post

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1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

And just for the record:

How random stabbing sprees became routine in Vancouver | National Post

Better than random shooting sprees. Those are extremely rare in Canada, but the norm in the USA, thanks to weak gun control laws. 

[Venandi]

It's interesting to watch. People with eyes to see and ears to hear are catching on now. They see what's happening in their cities and they're beginning to pay attention because they're scared... they see things getting worse and they realize that it's reached a threshold were it affects them, or someone they know, or someone who they can readily relate to through shared experiences / exposure to the threat.

This is actually how you get busy people who don't want to be bothered with something to pay attention. 

All the liberal talking points (including the ones on display right here) are starting to ring hollow when these folks begin to join the cause, effect, response, and observed results dots.  Average people are now being forced to think pragmatically about this (against their will BTW) and it shines a light on the sort of liberal logic that grows best in the dark.

Previously, they didn't bother taking the time to understand the problem, they just wanted it to go away, to see some action that sounded good, and as is the case with most folks, to follow someone who says "I have a plan, I can fix this, follow me." 

It seems that the media are becoming sensitive to the unease now and beginning to pay attention, we're seeing the first fumbling attempts at thoughtful analysis and for scared people,  it tends to confirm the nagging thought that we're collectively headed in the wrong direction and the more we press on the gas peddle the deeper the mud gets. 

 https://nationalpost.com/opinion/nonsensical-trudeau-gun-ban-yet

The technique of doubling down on ridiculous talking points has been over used to the detriment of those talking, they now have to shout and shouting just makes them look silly... the collection of nonsense words thrown together in a wilted salad no longer matches the view seen from the kitchen window.

Average people, who didn't want to be bothered worrying about this are now saying WTF for the first time.

[Black Dog]

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

And just for the record:

How random stabbing sprees became routine in Vancouver | National Post

"The vast majority of these stranger attacks follow a predictable pattern: The assailant is usually mentally ill, often has a lengthy criminal record and is frequently on bail or probation."

Let's give these guys access to guns instead!

[Venandi]

2 hours ago, Black Dog said:

Let's give these guys access to guns instead!

I can only tell you that this sort of ridiculous rhetoric no longer resonates with my anti-gun acquaintances... ya, anecdotal at best but true none-the-less based on my experience. I'd hasten to add that this wasn't the case a short while ago and they might have nodded sagely to such things... they seem to be paying attention now though.

They now see right through this nonsense and would likely point out the bail debacle and quote you stats on the number of criminals arrested for gun crimes while out on bail for gun crimes whilst under a lifetime possession ban for previous gun crimes. They know the problem isn't duck hunters from PEI and these little diversions and wedge issues are actually annoying them now.... and I'm putting that mildly.

The only way mentally ill folks and known criminals will get a gun is if they acquire them illegally, and that's desperately easy to do now. 

A couple of years ago 3d printed weapons (and individual parts for assembly) were statistically insignificant... now not so much. Factory mades are being flown across the border with drones whilst Liberal actions and rhetoric is looking in the opposite direction. These guys aren't dumb though, the new grab was strategically crafted for a specific purpose, just not in support of public safety. They pushed it a bit to far IMO, nobody believes that .22s are going to save the war effort in Ukraine. 

In short, your target audience no longer believe in fairy tales, if you want to convince them that the gun grab and the collection expenses that accompany it serve to mitigate the problems they see outside their kitchen windows... well, you need some new material.

The current rhetoric is actually hurting your cause.

Maybe a heavy volley of memes saying STFU will help eh? I'll leave you and offender to collaborate on the PR campaign.

Best of luck with it.

 

 

Edited December 10, 2024 by Venandi

[CdnFox]

17 hours ago, Aristides said:

Trump signed the agreement with the Taliban in February of 2020, it specified US troop reductions and full withdrawal within 14 months. He will abandon Ukraine as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States–Taliban_deal

Subject to a number of conditions. And Biden absolutely had the power to change that when he found out the Taliban was not upholding their end of it.

I love this whole excuse of "But I'm only the president of the United States I'm completely powerless!" that the left have going on for Biden.

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

Better than random shooting sprees. 

No it isn't. It's fatality rate is actually fairly comparable. Generally speaking more people tend to survive random shootings then not. I was posted earlier in Canada historically the number of death s due to knife attack and the number of deaths due to gun attack are actually almost identical each year.

And once again you open your mouth without actually looking anything up and wind up looking stupid. If you follow your normal pattern you're about to post a link that proves I'm right and then be pissy about it for the next 4 days

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4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

 

Generally speaking more people tend to survive random shootings then not. I was posted earlier in Canada historically the number of death s due to knife attack and the number of deaths due to gun attack are actually almost identical each year.

And once again you open your mouth without actually looking anything up and wind up looking stupid. If you follow your normal pattern you're about to post a link that proves I'm right and then be pissy about it for the next 4 days

Good morning @CdnFox.

I hope you slept well.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Black Dog said:

"The vast majority of these stranger attacks follow a predictable pattern: The assailant is usually mentally ill, often has a lengthy criminal record and is frequently on bail or probation."

Let's give these guys access to guns instead!

Why, they're doing pretty good with knives.

And the liberal answer is  "Wow they're killing people with knives, we should ban guns"

And you think they are the ones with the mental health problems

[WestCanMan]

Trudeau is such a weaselly little piece of shit it makes me sick. 

I'd rather have an alzheimer Idjit like the current presuhhdolt of the US instead of our corrupt commie corksoaker PM any day of the week. 

At least with Biden there's always the chance that he'll keel over at any minute. We're stuck with Trudeau until every last LPOC/NDP toady in the HoC qualifies for their pension. 

Edited December 10, 2024 by WestCanMan

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Why, they're doing pretty good with knives.

And the liberal answer is  "Wow they're killing people with knives, we should ban guns"

And you think they are the ones with the mental health problems

Even when islamist terrorists kill people with a van our village id10t says "This is proof that we need to take all of the guns away from white extremists".

[Dougie93]

21 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Even when islamist terrorists kill people with a van our village id10t says "This is proof that we need to take all of the guns away from white extremists".

the more these Liberal & Red Tory Laurentian Elites discredit themselves therein

the more powerful MAGA becomes in the face of it

[Black Dog]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Why, they're doing pretty good with knives.

And the liberal answer is  "Wow they're killing people with knives, we should ban guns"

And you think they are the ones with the mental health problems

OK let's ban carrying knives in public too. Your move, dipshit.

[Army Guy]

9 hours ago, Black Dog said:

"The vast majority of these stranger attacks follow a predictable pattern: The assailant is usually mentally ill, often has a lengthy criminal record and is frequently on bail or probation."

Let's give these guys access to guns instead!

You can't get a PAL in Canada if you have a health health issue or a criminal record, every single person that owns a fire arms has a criminal record check done daily....Have mental health issues the RCMP will collect your existing firearms...

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Black Dog said:

OK let's ban carrying knives in public too. Your move, dipshit.

Why? They'll just start shooting people?  

We get it. What you want is a nanny state. We don't. And people are obviously sick of your woke crap.

If you ban guns they use knives. If you been nice they use hammers. If you ban hammers they use vehicles. And so on and so forth

The actual answer is you address the people. Most of these guys doing the stabbing have been in jail for violent crimes before but we're released. Most of the criminals have no fear of the legal system and no they will be out in 5 minutes. And the ones with mental health issues (other than the liberals) are going without treatment.

But instead of spending three or four billion dollars on better mental health we're spending it on a gun by back which will not save a single life.

I realized that Lefties do not want to go after people for being criminals or deal with their mental health issues. For you it must seem like going after family.

But at the end of the day it's the only solution that has ever worked. Harper was tough on crime and soft on guns and crime and violence went down. Trudeau has been soft on crime and hard on guns And violent crime is through the roof.

Why can't you guys learn to follow the science?