US Health Care system has failed America (The Brian Thompson CEO Assassination)

[Legato]

4 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I know where you live tho... 🤣

The Ferrari in my room says hello. I can't repeat what the Hayabusa said.

[eyeball]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

His job was to make profit for the shareholders. Apparently he was quite good at his job.

I would have thought his job was to serve his customers. I wonder if he'd use the graph in the OP to make his case? What do you think?

But I get it that it's too soon for questions like these.

First, we need to heal...

[gatomontes99]

2 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

I've seen social media, and pretty much everyone is united in their hatred of Health Insurance companies in America. It is non-partisan,

So? That doesn't justify murder!

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2 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

Canada's socialist healthcare system is collapsing in its own way

 

The Canadian system is very stressed, and is in need of some overhauling. However, to suggest the American system is superior, is a ridiculous take. There are tens of millions of Americans who are uninsured. Even when Americans are insured, they have to deal with predatory insurance companies like the one the CEO was in, with a 32% claims denial rate. 

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1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Sorry, you're asking me what I think of Bernie Sanders opinion?

 

Bernie was the man. One of the only modern day politicians that fight for the people, and was willing to take on the corporate bigwigs. He should have been President in 2016. Unfortunately all the super delegates screwed him out of the Democratic nomination.

We need more people like Bernie Sanders, and less people like Donald Trump and Elon Musk.  It always amazes me that working/middle class people would choose a couple of corrupt Billionaires over a man who fights for the working class. 

It also shows everything that is wrong with America today. 

Edited December 5, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

I have never seen social media commentators so united, in their hatred of a Health Insurance CEO.  Thompson was the CEO of United healthcare, one of the largest health insurance agencies, and one of the most notorious companies for denying medical claims. This was not lost on the people.

 

"Just a friendly reminder that in 2024, Brian Thompson's leadership led United Healthcare to deny claims to 31.5 million sick Americans. By contrast, undocumented migrants in the USA killed fewer than 20 US citizens during that same time span. Who is your real enemy, America?"

"brian thompson isn't going to see your tweets, because he is dead from bullets, but your friends and family who run multi-billion dollar companies are, and they're going to feel that much more scared and alone because of it."

"Congratulations to Brian Thompson for avoiding a long and expensive end-of-life illness, filled with struggles to obtain care from insurance companies that employ AI to deny 90% of claims submitted."

The assassination:

https://x.com/DMichaelTripi/status/1864376762567635362

Was not aware of the horrible record of UHC claim rejections.

I wonder why AARP continues to recommend/partner with them.

Maybe AARP has different claims adjusters in UHC....

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

 

We need more people like Bernie Sanders

I agree. If we had a few more people like him on the democrats side of things the republicans would be in power perpetually

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Deluge said:

Murder is what the left really wants. 

And LYING by YOU is what we get HERE. 🤮

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

Well there's also the part where out they sometimes don't get what they pay for if their insurance company arbitrarily decides to refuse coverage, which is quite probably why this particular CEO is now so well ventilated.

Same in Canada though. Many have died because the failure of the government to provide adequate services has led to the shutdown of a number of remote community emergency rooms and people die on their way to the nearest town that still has one. As I posted earlier thousands die every year waiting for medical care that they never get because of shortages.

Is there a big difference between people who can't get care because they have no coverage and people who can't get care even though they supposedly have coverage? I suspect they're equally dead.

The only difference is Americans seem to shoot people who pull back crap on them and we seem to re-elect them

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Deluge said:

Murder is what the left really wants. 

And LYING by YOU is what we get HERE. 🤮

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9 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

.The only difference is Americans seem to shoot people who pull back crap on them and we seem to re-elect them

The Americans are electing politicians that are cutting health care, social security, etc. The real difference is Canadian are more likely to push back against the Government, if they try and reduce health related services. Not only that, but the talk about implementing a health care system more like the Canadian one, has been ongoing for decades.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/how-canada-got-universal-health-care-and-what-the-u-s-could-learn

Edited December 5, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[Deluge]

15 minutes ago, robosmith said:

And LYING by YOU is what we get HERE. 🤮

robobortion gets triggered when he hears the truth.  

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2 minutes ago, Deluge said:

robobortion gets triggered when he hears the truth.  

On the contrary, I find the posts of @robosmith mainly accurate. 

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Hodad said:

I agree. It's always best if bad people are brought to justice legally. 

But there are gaps in the the construction and reach of out justice system. People sometimes take that sense of justice into their own hands. And then nobody quite feels bad about it. Illegal "justice" goes down easier than legal injustice.

^This is especially true with the MAGA CULT, which has planned and carried out an unprecedented number of personal attacks in service to Trump's suggestions and demands for retribution against those who oppose him politically; particularly those he LIES about misbehaving in that opposition. David Depape being the poster child MAGA CULT GOON. One of many. 🤮

[Deluge]

Just now, DUI_Offender said:

On the contrary, I find the posts of @robosmith mainly accurate. 

That's because you both share the same brain. The reality is that you both get triggered by the truth. 

[robosmith]

4 minutes ago, Deluge said:

robobortion gets triggered when he hears the truth.  

You're the one who keeps ^LYING. Over and over, again. 🤮

[Nationalist]

3 hours ago, Black Dog said:

Yes but not for the reasons you say. Jokes (?) aside, these situations aren't remotely comparable. People invest with the knowledge that it maybe not pay out. People get insurance with the expectation that it will be there when they need it and not be denied to save the company a few bucks.

Seems most CEOs would disagree with you.

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

I would have thought his job was to serve his customers. I wonder if he'd use the graph in the OP to make his case? What do you think?

But I get it that it's too soon for questions like these.

First, we need to heal...

You heal. I'll deal...with reality.

[Fluffypants]

8 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

The Americans are electing politicians that are cutting health care, social security, etc. The real difference is Canadian are more likely to push back against the Government, if they try and reduce health related services. Not only that, but the talk about implementing a health care system more like the Canadian one, has been ongoing for decades.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/how-canada-got-universal-health-care-and-what-the-u-s-could-learn

Isn't your healthcare get so overtaxed that the doctors prescribe killing yourself?

[Deluge]

2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You're the one who keeps ^LYING. Over and over, again. 🤮

The truth hurts people like roboscuz; it's why he never shuts up. He figures if he keeps spewing bullshit that people will eventually bend through the onslaught. I, of course, love to throw his shit back in his face.  

[robosmith]

6 minutes ago, Deluge said:

That's because you both share the same brain. The reality is that you both get triggered by the truth. 

Your MAGA CULT "truth" is just the BULLSHIT you continually spread HERE. 🤮

2 minutes ago, Deluge said:

The truth hurts people like roboscuz; it's why he never shuts up. He figures if he keeps spewing bullshit that people will eventually bend through the onslaught. I, of course, love to throw his shit back in his face.  

IN FACT you're the ONE HERE who spreads NOTHING BUT BULLSHIT.

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1 minute ago, Fluffypants said:

Isn't your healthcare get so overtaxed that the doctors prescribe killing yourself?

Unsure why I am addressing this, considering I have addressed this point numerous times, and gave references, but her it goes.

Per-capita, Americans pay over twice as much for their health care system, as opposed to the Canadian system. MAID is controversial, but I agree with euthanasia, in some cases. Is it not a good thing to control one's destiny after being diagnosed with a terminal illness, or a condition such as Alzheimer's?

I know that the consensus in my family, is that they would rather die than live out the last few remaining years of life, in a retirement home, with dementia. 

[Deluge]

2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Your MAGA CULT "truth" is just the BULLSHIT you continually spread HERE. 🤮

IN FACT you're the ONE HERE who spreads NOTHING BUT BULLSHIT.

You have no facts - just left-wing propaganda. That's your problem, robomarx, and it's also why you cultists lost the election. 

Let THAT sink in.  

[Dougie93]

45 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

The Canadian system is very stressed, and is in need of some overhauling. However, to suggest the American system is superior, is a ridiculous take. There are tens of millions of Americans who are uninsured. Even when Americans are insured, they have to deal with predatory insurance companies like the one the CEO was in, with a 32% claims denial rate. 

this is the standard Canadian knee jerk response

implying that there are only two options

when, again, there are more successful mixed public private healthcare systems in places like Switzerland or Australia

 the Canadian Disease therein, is that Canadians can only interpret the world as a binary Canada v. America paradigm

[CdnFox]

30 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

The Americans are electing politicians that are cutting health care, social security, etc.

Why would they do that if their health care isn't adequate already? Unless you are entirely wrong of course   

 

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The real difference is Canadian are more likely to push back against the Government

AHHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAAH   LOL when has that ever happened?  Chretien slashed health care spending, Trudeau cut health care spending, where was the big backlash there?  Canadians die by the truckload due to lack of health care spending right now and they're not pushing back on it. 

Total failure on that one    Hell they don't usually even push back provincially. 

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Not only that, but the talk about implementing a health care system more like the Canadian one, has been ongoing for decades

a handful of people on the left talk about it but the reason it's been being talked about for decades is because only a handful of people are interested in it. The vast majority look at our system and recoil in horror.

Our system isn't even the one you'd want a copy. There are successful public models such as France. The way we do it is about the worst

Canada health care: Crisis 'decades in the making' | CTV News

[gatomontes99]

3 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

The Canadian system is very stressed, and is in need of some overhauling. However, to suggest the American system is superior, is a ridiculous take. There are tens of millions of Americans who are uninsured. Even when Americans are insured, they have to deal with predatory insurance companies like the one the CEO was in, with a 32% claims denial rate. 

Then how do you explain this:

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Would you cross the border for health care? 42% Canadians say yes in poll

https://globalnews.ca/news/10322678/health-care-canada-us-ipsos-poll/