West Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 https://thefederalist.com/2022/09/26/the-fbis-matt-gaetz-operation-sidelined-an-effective-republican-voice-at-a-crucial-time-that-was-the-point/ Throw back to 2022 when the Democrats and some Republicans engaged in a vile smear campaign against Matt Gaetz, accusing him under anonymity of being a pedophile. Eventually no charges were recommended. Just shows how sick these people are Quote
robosmith Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 (edited) 22 minutes ago, West said: https://thefederalist.com/2022/09/26/the-fbis-matt-gaetz-operation-sidelined-an-effective-republican-voice-at-a-crucial-time-that-was-the-point/ Throw back to 2022 when the Democrats and some Republicans engaged in a vile smear campaign against Matt Gaetz, accusing him under anonymity of being a pedophile. Eventually no charges were recommended. Just shows how sick these people are Gaetz resigned just prior to the release of the HOUSE ethics investigation. That's a report that neither he nor you wants the public to see. However, it probably will be seen, at least by the FBI in their investigation for his AG nomination. My money is on it being leaked to the public. Next time you're looking for evidence of your conspiracy theories, remember that the Federalist is NOT a legitimate news reporting organization. It is 2nd only to FOS LIES as a right wing propaganda outlet. Edited November 14, 2024 by robosmith 1 1 Quote
Black Dog Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 24 minutes ago, West said: https://thefederalist.com/2022/09/26/the-fbis-matt-gaetz-operation-sidelined-an-effective-republican-voice-at-a-crucial-time-that-was-the-point/ Throw back to 2022 when the Democrats and some Republicans engaged in a vile smear campaign against Matt Gaetz, accusing him under anonymity of being a pedophile. Eventually no charges were recommended. Just shows how sick these people are Pedophile and sex trafficker, just like Trump's former bff Epstein. 1 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 1 hour ago, robosmith said: Gaetz resigned just prior to the release of the HOUSE ethics investigation. That's a report that neither he nor you wants the public to see. However, it probably will be seen, at least by the FBI in their investigation for his AG nomination. My money is on it being leaked to the public. Next time you're looking for evidence of your conspiracy theories, remember that the Federalist is NOT a legitimate news reporting organization. It is 2nd only to FOS LIES as a right wing propaganda outlet. It's hard to get outraged against such tactics when you look at Gaetz's loooong CONTROVERSY section on Wikipedia, and read posters here claiming smears. Then again, culture warriors gonna warrior. They're heavily invested in the MAGA team taking the field with all cheaters present. Still, I do long for a world where dirty players don't need FBI leaks to happen to be rejected for higher office, let alone this position. 1 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
CdnFox Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Still, I do long for a world where dirty players don't need FBI leaks to happen to be rejected for higher office, let alone this position. You mean like back in the day when the FBI just made up fake folders and got illegal search warrants? Yeah, good times. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
impartialobserver Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 I think it is fair criticism. If you open your mouth... there are consequences. Quote
robosmith Posted November 14, 2024 Report Posted November 14, 2024 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: It's hard to get outraged against such tactics when you look at Gaetz's loooong CONTROVERSY section on Wikipedia, and read posters here claiming smears. Then again, culture warriors gonna warrior. They're heavily invested in the MAGA team taking the field with all cheaters present. Still, I do long for a world where dirty players don't need FBI leaks to happen to be rejected for higher office, let alone this position. Most likely leakers are the pols on the ethics committee, not the FBI. I don't see anything wrong with the truth being made public and Gaetz FAILING to evade that. Edited November 14, 2024 by robosmith Quote
West Posted November 14, 2024 Author Report Posted November 14, 2024 4 hours ago, robosmith said: Gaetz resigned just prior to the release of the HOUSE ethics investigation. That's a report that neither he nor you wants the public to see. However, it probably will be seen, at least by the FBI in their investigation for his AG nomination. My money is on it being leaked to the public. Next time you're looking for evidence of your conspiracy theories, remember that the Federalist is NOT a legitimate news reporting organization. It is 2nd only to FOS LIES as a right wing propaganda outlet. If you have any evidence that Gaetz is a pedophile who's diddling kids, you better report that to the police..it's illegal not to in most places. 1 Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 (edited) 6 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: It's hard to get outraged against such tactics when you look at Gaetz's loooong CONTROVERSY section on Wikipedia, and read posters here claiming smears. Then again, culture warriors gonna warrior. They're heavily invested in the MAGA team taking the field with all cheaters present. Still, I do long for a world where dirty players don't need FBI leaks to happen to be rejected for higher office, let alone this position. What happened to America? I don't care what party one is in, it seems like only the Democrats actually resign for their misgivings. Matt Gaetz is a piece of human trash, and has been since he has a teenager. The things he has done would disqualify him from most jobs in America, let alone being in some a high ranking position. Edited November 15, 2024 by DUI_Offender Quote
gatomontes99 Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 7 hours ago, robosmith said: Gaetz resigned just prior to the release of the HOUSE ethics investigation. That's a report that neither he nor you wants the public to see. However, it probably will be seen, at least by the FBI in their investigation for his AG nomination. My money is on it being leaked to the public. Next time you're looking for evidence of your conspiracy theories, remember that the Federalist is NOT a legitimate news reporting organization. It is 2nd only to FOS LIES as a right wing propaganda outlet. Yep. No banana republic bull shìt here. 100% ethical. 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
West Posted November 15, 2024 Author Report Posted November 15, 2024 6 hours ago, impartialobserver said: I think it is fair criticism. If you open your mouth... there are consequences. Consequences include false accusations about a guy being a pedophile over a disagreement in politics? Are you serious? That's vile Quote
Michael Hardner Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 56 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: What happened to America? They began to care about entertainment more than education. Lots of things like that. Hedonism replacing religion. Immaturity. Pretend conservatives making all of public life akin to pro wrestling... Wasn't Trump part of the pro wrestling scene? Maybe when he made the Pizza Hut commercial? Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
NAME REMOVED Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said: Pretend conservatives making all of public life akin to pro wrestling... Wasn't Trump part of the pro wrestling scene? Maybe when he made the Pizza Hut commercial? Donald Trump has always been a big pro wrestling fan. He developed a friendship with Vince McMahon *who turned out to be another serial predator) sometime in the early 80s. Trump even hosted back to back Wrestlemanias at Trump Palace in 1988 and 1989. What's interesting about Trump, is how he was influenced by McMahon. In the late 90s wrestling boom, Vince McMahoon became one of the star performers, as the "evil boss," Trump pretty much copied what McMahon would do, as the evil boss Mr. McMahon would tell wrestlers loudly "YOURE FIRRRRED!" Trump would emulate this when he began starring in the reality show "The Apprentice." Trump went on to be one of the main players at the 2007 Wrestlemania, in a hair vs hair match (which trump won, and proceeded to shave Vince McMahon's hair). The two men have strikingly similar personas, and it's no coincidence that Linda McMahon (wife of Mcmahon), was promoted to Trump's cabinet in 2017, as Administrator of the Small Business Administration. Quote
robosmith Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 (edited) 4 hours ago, West said: If you have any evidence that Gaetz is a pedophile who's diddling kids, you better report that to the police..it's illegal not to in most places. 17 yo teen is NOT a "kid." Duh But diddling under under age 18 is illegal in many states and the police already know of the allegations IOW, another aspect of US law of which you are IGNORANT. Edited November 15, 2024 by robosmith Quote
robosmith Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 1 hour ago, West said: Consequences include false accusations about a guy being a pedophile over a disagreement in politics? Are you serious? That's vile The young lady says she was fcked by Gaetz. Duh Quote
CdnFox Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 2 hours ago, robosmith said: The young lady says she was fcked by Gaetz. Duh Why no criminal charges then Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
robosmith Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 18 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Why no criminal charges then I am flattered that you believe I have that inside info. Quote
CdnFox Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 39 minutes ago, robosmith said: I am flattered that you believe I have that inside info. So you're saying your OPINION doesn't MATTER because you have no FACTS!!! Well fair enough Let me give you the inside scoop - the accusation isn't plausible enough to warrant charges. That's why. There you go! Now you're in the loop! 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Nationalist Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 3 hours ago, CdnFox said: So you're saying your OPINION doesn't MATTER because you have no FACTS!!! Well fair enough Let me give you the inside scoop - the accusation isn't plausible enough to warrant charges. That's why. There you go! Now you're in the loop! It's so...fascist. "Hey Gaetz is a disrupter and we Democrats don't like him. What can we do? I know. Let's accuse him of sexual crimes. That'll destroy him. CALL WRAY!" Yet the FBI found no crime to charge Gaetz with and he won re-election without hardly trying. But the Libbies don't stop. They proceed as if Gaetz were already in jail. THAT...is the act of real live fascists. Right out of Stalin's playbook. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
gatomontes99 Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 37 minutes ago, Nationalist said: It's so...fascist. "Hey Gaetz is a disrupter and we Democrats don't like him. What can we do? I know. Let's accuse him of sexual crimes. That'll destroy him. CALL WRAY!" Yet the FBI found no crime to charge Gaetz with and he won re-election without hardly trying. But the Libbies don't stop. They proceed as if Gaetz were already in jail. THAT...is the act of real live fascists. Right out of Stalin's playbook. He also disrupted the R party. There are some establishment guys that hate him for that. I'm actually unhappy with what he did to the speakership because it fùcked the country pretty hard. Hopefully he learned that sometimes you have to compromise to keep the ball rolling in the right direction. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
CouchPotato Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 9 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Pretend conservatives making all of public life akin to pro wrestling... I wouldn't say you've made public life akin to pro wrestling. 1 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 12 minutes ago, CouchPotato said: I wouldn't say you've made public life akin to pro wrestling. No, I'm not a ... oh... right. I see what you're doing. No. I am conservative. People who support radical change and epistemic revolution used to pass out pamphlets in the streets in the 1970s. I would read them and think "Who believes this stuff ?". All they needed was a corporate marketing team and backing from the wealthy elite to succeed. And here we are. 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Nationalist Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 40 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: No, I'm not a ... oh... right. I see what you're doing. No. I am conservative. People who support radical change and epistemic revolution used to pass out pamphlets in the streets in the 1970s. I would read them and think "Who believes this stuff ?". All they needed was a corporate marketing team and backing from the wealthy elite to succeed. And here we are. A conservative you say? Hmm... Do you want to conserve the definitions of male and female? How about the conservation of free speech? Or the conservation of our economy? The conservation of our justice system? Perhaps the conservation of basic truth? No? All just a wrestling match to you? As a conservative, one is called to take a stand against forces that threaten our safety, our social norms and our prosperity. You Sir...do the exact opposite. Thus you are not a conservative. You are instead, a liar. I'm sorry that conclusion is warranted...but as we both know... The truth will win out... Always. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Michael Hardner Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Nationalist said: 1. Do you want to conserve the definitions of male and female? 2. How about the conservation of free speech? 3. Or the conservation of our economy? 4. The conservation of our justice system? 5. Perhaps the conservation of basic truth? 6. No? All just a wrestling match to you? 7. As a conservative, one is called to take a stand against forces that threaten our safety, our social norms and our prosperity. 8. You Sir...do the exact opposite. Thus you are not a conservative. You are instead, a liar. I'm sorry that conclusion is warranted...but as we both know... The truth will win out... Always. 1. Absolutely. Sex doesn't change. 2. Yes, people should be able to call out racists and homophobes. 3. Yes, global trade in its current form was launched by giants such as Mulroney, Reagan and Thatcher. 4. Yes, and I favour felons being barred from office. 5. Of course. 6. Not at all. 7. Exactly what fake conservatives do not do. They refuse to take a stand against climate change as Thatcher and Bush did, they refuse to refuse the right to pursue happiness and freedom. 8. No, you're the culture warrior here. Here's a quote from you: "You're right. I'm not anymore. Frankly I believe most Libbie leaders and much of the media belong in jail. I've told you this several times Mike...the Libbies started this war...but we will finish it.! You don't like that prospect? Grow some principals then and stop lying about us. If you ever decide to call a truce...we'll be willing to talk." I was discussing with Couch Potato, not YOU. You are a culture warrior and not someone who believes in dialogue and our proven institutions. You DON'T believe in freedom. You are AFRAID of politics and different perspectives and you think people who oppose you belong in jail. Quit posting to me. You have admitted who you are. Edited November 15, 2024 by Michael Hardner Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Deluge Posted November 15, 2024 Report Posted November 15, 2024 (edited) 19 hours ago, West said: https://thefederalist.com/2022/09/26/the-fbis-matt-gaetz-operation-sidelined-an-effective-republican-voice-at-a-crucial-time-that-was-the-point/ Throw back to 2022 when the Democrats and some Republicans engaged in a vile smear campaign against Matt Gaetz, accusing him under anonymity of being a pedophile. Eventually no charges were recommended. Just shows how sick these people are This won't stop until the tables are turned. There needs to be a swift counter-suit against every a$$hole that uses lawfare on someone. Edited November 15, 2024 by Deluge Quote
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