Rebound Posted October 16, 2024 Report Posted October 16, 2024 Liar-in-Chief Donald Trump proclaimed today that he is "The Father of I.V.F.," and that the Republicans are "the party for I.V.F." In the speech, the "Father of I.V.F." said that he first heard of I.V.F. two years ago, and had to ask what it was. Yeah. The "Father of I.V.F." didn't know what it was until 2022, even though I.V.F. first created a human being in 1978. The Party of I.V.F. has twice voted to block nationwide protections for I.V.F. Senate G.O.P. Blocks I.V.F. Access Bill : June 13, 2024: Senate Republicans on Thursday blocked legislation that would codify the right to access fertility treatments such as in vitro fertilization, with all but two Republicans opposed to advancing the bill. Senate Republicans Block I.V.F. Protection Bill a Second Time: September 17, 2024: Senate Republicans on Tuesday blocked legislation that would guarantee federal protections and insurance coverage for in vitro fertilization treatments, the second time in three months that the G.O.P. has thwarted the broadly popular measure. If you want a government that will look you straight in the eye and lie its ass off right to your face, Donald Trump is your man. Nobody in America lies as well or as much as Donald Trump. 3 Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
Hodad Posted October 16, 2024 Report Posted October 16, 2024 (edited) He's definitely the most prolific liar I've ever seen, and he lies easily, but I don't think he lies well. He lies indiscriminately, needlessly and in obvious ways that are certain to be discovered. He's the kind of liar that can stand in the rain in front of millions of people and then lie that it didn't rain, or declare himself the father of a 40-year old medical procedure. 🤷♀️ Edited October 16, 2024 by Hodad 2 Quote
User Posted October 16, 2024 Report Posted October 16, 2024 We already had a thread on this. 4. Republicans Will Protect and Defend a Vote of the People, from within the States, on the Issue of Life We proudly stand for families and Life. We believe that the 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States guarantees that no person can be denied Life or Liberty without Due Process, and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights. After 51 years, because of us, that power has been given to the States and to a vote of the People. We will oppose Late Term Abortion, while supporting mothers and policies that advance Prenatal Care, access to Birth Control, and IVF (fertility treatments). https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/2024-republican-party-platform Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Rebound Posted October 16, 2024 Author Report Posted October 16, 2024 (edited) 46 minutes ago, User said: We already had a thread on this. 4. Republicans Will Protect and Defend a Vote of the People, from within the States, on the Issue of Life We proudly stand for families and Life. We believe that the 14th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States guarantees that no person can be denied Life or Liberty without Due Process, and that the States are, therefore, free to pass Laws protecting those Rights. After 51 years, because of us, that power has been given to the States and to a vote of the People. We will oppose Late Term Abortion, while supporting mothers and policies that advance Prenatal Care, access to Birth Control, and IVF (fertility treatments). https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/2024-republican-party-platform So the GOP doesn’t really believe in defending IVF. And this logic about states rights will fall apart if the GOP wins Congress cause for sure they’ll ban abortion nationwide if they can. The Dobbs decision did not state whether abortion can be decided by the states or the federal government; they said “the people through their elected representatives” Edited October 16, 2024 by Rebound Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
User Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rebound said: So the GOP doesn’t really believe in defending IVF. And this logic about states rights will fall apart if the GOP wins Congress cause for sure they’ll ban abortion nationwide if they can. The Dobbs decision did not state whether abortion can be decided by the states or the federal government; they said “the people through their elected representatives” There is a great video to highlight the stupid level of dishonesty you are engaged in right now: YOU WANT PEOPLE TO DIE!!!!! Edited October 17, 2024 by User Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Rebound Posted October 17, 2024 Author Report Posted October 17, 2024 1 hour ago, User said: There is a great video to highlight the stupid level of dishonesty you are engaged in right now: YOU WANT PEOPLE TO DIE!!!!! An actor? Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
robosmith Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 4 hours ago, User said: There is a great video to highlight the stupid level of dishonesty you are engaged in right now: YOU WANT PEOPLE TO DIE!!!!! Just cause you imagine your video is relevant, does not make it true. It is clear that you don't really have a point and just post a ridiculous video to illustrate you're BANKRUPT. Quote
User Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 7 hours ago, robosmith said: Just cause you imagine your video is relevant, does not make it true. It is clear that you don't really have a point and just post a ridiculous video to illustrate you're BANKRUPT. It is comical how you have chosen to run away and hide from me and all the many posts now where I call out your BS and this is what you choose to emerge from the rock you are under to respond with. The point was quite obvious, the game being played here was that if Republicans don't support whatever convoluted "Save IVF" bill the Democrats put up for clearly political pandering, you guys are here screaming they don't support IVF, which is a lie. That is why I posted the party platform. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Rebound Posted October 17, 2024 Author Report Posted October 17, 2024 (edited) 19 minutes ago, User said: It is comical how you have chosen to run away and hide from me and all the many posts now where I call out your BS and this is what you choose to emerge from the rock you are under to respond with. The point was quite obvious, the game being played here was that if Republicans don't support whatever convoluted "Save IVF" bill the Democrats put up for clearly political pandering, you guys are here screaming they don't support IVF, which is a lie. That is why I posted the party platform. No, the point is that you base your thinking on fantasy, make-believe, conspiracy and lies. Example: “Here, look at this video of an actor pretending to be a Democrat..” We’re showing you the actual stupid things that Trump says, and the things he’s done, and you show us pretend make-believe which you think “proves a point.” The point you prove is that you have no facts. JD Vance admits that he freely lies, and he was offended that someone pointed out his lying during a debate. He refuses to admit that Biden won in 2020, when he knows perfectly well that he did. This is not going to make a good government, it is going to impose fascism upon us. Adolph Hitler was elected and Donald Trump is no different. Edited October 17, 2024 by Rebound Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
gatomontes99 Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Rebound said: No, the point is that you base your thinking on fantasy, make-believe, conspiracy and lies. Example: “Here, look at this video of an actor pretending to be a Democrat..” We’re showing you the actual stupid things that Trump says, and the things he’s done, and you show us pretend make-believe which you think “proves a point.” The point you prove is that you have no facts. JD Vance admits that he freely lies, and he was offended that someone pointed out his lying during a debate. He refuses to admit that Biden won in 2020, when he knows perfectly well that he did. This is not going to make a good government, it is going to impose fascism upon us. Adolph Hitler was elected and Donald Trump is no different. Dude, you don't even see how you got played. He wants you to go off on deranged rants, about one off comments like that, because it shows independents what weirdos you are. And I can tell you this, knowing full well, you can't stop it. Edited October 17, 2024 by gatomontes99 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
ironstone Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 A question for those afflicted with TDS. Isn't it crazy that someone starts a thread about the wonders of IVF while at the same time, you guys are 100% pro-abortion, as in, the more the better? 1 Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
Nationalist Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 16 hours ago, Rebound said: Liar-in-Chief Donald Trump proclaimed today that he is "The Father of I.V.F.," and that the Republicans are "the party for I.V.F." In the speech, the "Father of I.V.F." said that he first heard of I.V.F. two years ago, and had to ask what it was. Yeah. The "Father of I.V.F." didn't know what it was until 2022, even though I.V.F. first created a human being in 1978. The Party of I.V.F. has twice voted to block nationwide protections for I.V.F. Senate G.O.P. Blocks I.V.F. Access Bill : June 13, 2024: Senate Republicans on Thursday blocked legislation that would codify the right to access fertility treatments such as in vitro fertilization, with all but two Republicans opposed to advancing the bill. Senate Republicans Block I.V.F. Protection Bill a Second Time: September 17, 2024: Senate Republicans on Tuesday blocked legislation that would guarantee federal protections and insurance coverage for in vitro fertilization treatments, the second time in three months that the G.O.P. has thwarted the broadly popular measure. If you want a government that will look you straight in the eye and lie its ass off right to your face, Donald Trump is your man. Nobody in America lies as well or as much as Donald Trump. Isn't IVF a states issue? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 1 hour ago, Rebound said: No, the point is that you base your thinking on fantasy, make-believe, conspiracy and lies. Example: “Here, look at this video of an actor pretending to be a Democrat..” What is the fantasy or lie here? I have no clue if he was pretending to be a Democrat or not, he was mocking what you are here doing with saying look at these 2 bills Republicans didn't support, so it clearly means they don't support IVF! That is a ruse. 1 hour ago, Rebound said: We’re showing you the actual stupid things that Trump says, and the things he’s done, and you show us pretend make-believe which you think “proves a point.” No, you are ignoring what Trump says. He says he supports IVF and it is in the party platform. Those are actual things. They do prove a point. 1 hour ago, Rebound said: This is not going to make a good government, it is going to impose fascism upon us. Adolph Hitler was elected and Donald Trump is no different. So, your argument boils down to Trump is Hitler. LOL 1 Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Rebound Posted October 17, 2024 Author Report Posted October 17, 2024 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: Isn't IVF a states issue? No, IVF is not a states issue. It is medical treatment which women have a right to. Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
User Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 Just now, Rebound said: No, IVF is not a states issue. It is medical treatment which women have a right to. Do you think people have a right to so-called "conversion therapy?" There is no right to IVF. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Hodad Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 3 hours ago, ironstone said: A question for those afflicted with TDS. Isn't it crazy that someone starts a thread about the wonders of IVF while at the same time, you guys are 100% pro-abortion, as in, the more the better? Sigh. As always. Nobody is "pro abortion," but rather pro choice. As in, we believe in a woman's right to choose whether to grow and birth a baby. Which is 100% aligned to support for IVF. Quote
ironstone Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 3 minutes ago, Hodad said: Sigh. As always. Nobody is "pro abortion," but rather pro choice. As in, we believe in a woman's right to choose whether to grow and birth a baby. Which is 100% aligned to support for IVF. When they had the DNC recently, there was something being promoted outside. https://19thnews.org/2024/08/dnc-planned-parenthood-free-medication-abortions-vasectomies/ "Come and get your abortion here! Free abortions! Come and get it!" 1 Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
User Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 (edited) 1 minute ago, ironstone said: When they had the DNC recently, there was something being promoted outside. https://19thnews.org/2024/08/dnc-planned-parenthood-free-medication-abortions-vasectomies/ "Come and get your abortion here! Free abortions! Come and get it!" Long gone are the days of safe, legal, and rare. The Democrats openly celebrate it, champion it, and want to normalize it. Edited October 17, 2024 by User Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Hodad Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 1 hour ago, ironstone said: When they had the DNC recently, there was something being promoted outside. https://19thnews.org/2024/08/dnc-planned-parenthood-free-medication-abortions-vasectomies/ "Come and get your abortion here! Free abortions! Come and get it!" And? Reproductive medicine should be available to all. Offering it at no cost is community service. Quote
WestCanMan Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 Both parties tabled an IVF bill and tried to get it passed, they both want the ultimate credit. To this day the Dems still claim the Civil Rights Bill as their own, even though it received more widespread support from the GOP than it did from the Dems. The OP is just a bunch more lies from one of the biggest liars here. 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
User Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 1 hour ago, Hodad said: And? Reproductive medicine should be available to all. Offering it at no cost is community service. You sit here using language like "reproductive medicine" to obfuscate that we are talking about abortion... when the Democrats were literally using free abortions as a gimmick at their convention and you are doing this while claiming you are not pro-abortion. You are pro-abortion. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Aristides Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 (edited) 7 hours ago, ironstone said: A question for those afflicted with TDS. Isn't it crazy that someone starts a thread about the wonders of IVF while at the same time, you guys are 100% pro-abortion, as in, the more the better? WTF is it you don't understand about freedom of choice? Pro choice isn't pro abortion, it's about the freedom to choose. Personally I'm not big on abortion but I'm not about to impose my choices on others. IVF should be a choice. Edited October 17, 2024 by Aristides Quote
ironstone Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 7 minutes ago, Aristides said: WTF is it you don't understand about freedom of choice? Pro choice isn't pro abortion, it's about the freedom to choose. Personally I'm not big on abortion but I'm not about to impose my choices on others. IVF should be a choice. Out of curiosity, what was your stance on people being forced to get the Covid shots? Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
Aristides Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 1 minute ago, ironstone said: Out of curiosity, what was your stance on people being forced to get the Covid shots? No one was forced to get covid shots. You are the one who wants to force your views on people. You would force a 14 year old girl who had been raped to carry a fetus to term while denying a couple the right to have their own eggs and sperm fertilized outside the uterus then inserted back into the woman's uterus to carry out a normal pregnancy. That's insane. Quote
ironstone Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 1 minute ago, Aristides said: No one was forced to get covid shots. Lot's of people were forced to make a choice, either get the shot or lose your job. It's a hell of a way to say no one was forced to do it. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
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