ExFlyer Posted September 4 Report Share Posted September 4 (edited) "NDP Leader pulls out of supply and confidence deal with Liberals" "The New Democratic Party is ending its supply and confidence deal with the Liberal Party, substantially increasing the chances of a federal election. Federal NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh says he notified Prime Minister Justin Trudeau today that he is no longer propping up his government. " https://ottawa.citynews.ca/2024/09/04/ndp-jagmeet-singh-liberals-supply-and-confidence/? Anyone really think Jagmeet has the balls to let an election happen??/ " Edited September 4 by ExFlyer 1 Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITIZEN_2015 Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 Strange that there aren't many posts in this thread as this was the biggest news at Federal level. Anybody knows when is the next confidence vote in the House of Common in which the government can lose and a Federal election called? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITIZEN_2015 Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 On 9/4/2024 at 4:07 PM, ExFlyer said: Anyone really think Jagmeet has the balls to let an election happen??/ " Jagmeet Singh is an opportunist and he entered the deal when Liberals were high in polls and pulled out when they were very low. He will force an election yes if he sees an opportunity for himself and his left wing party to get more seats. Anyone know when would be the next confidence vote? The budget next spring or anything sooner this fall? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 On 9/4/2024 at 1:07 PM, ExFlyer said: Anyone really think Jagmeet has the balls to let an election happen??/ Pulling out of the agreement opened that possibility up. So he's put one ball in play. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 There's a lot of reasons for him to call it now. And he certainly is giving election speeches at the media conferences about this. He claims he's running for prime minister Looks like we might have an election by the end of October. So now his next practical time is in February or March and then you're running an election on the budget and that's not to his favor. As i've said for some time if he actually goes all the way to the election date he gets slaughtered. the jr partner in supply deals always gets hammered. And the way he's polling right now hes' in danger of losing even more seats. So i think he'll try to catch the libs off guard while they're low and pretend the fight is all about the CPC (who will cream him), and try as much as possible to convince people that he's not just the Liberals lap dog. He's running out of road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted September 6 Author Report Share Posted September 6 (edited) 13 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Jagmeet Singh is an opportunist and he entered the deal when Liberals were high in polls and pulled out when they were very low. He will force an election yes if he sees an opportunity for himself and his left wing party to get more seats. Anyone know when would be the next confidence vote? The budget next spring or anything sooner this fall? 12 hours ago, eyeball said: Pulling out of the agreement opened that possibility up. So he's put one ball in play. Trudeau is smart, he may not have any legislation to pass thereby avoiding any possible vote of confidence issue. Also, I heard on the radio the other day that Jagmeet needs to last through February for him to qualify for a pension. Edited September 6 by ExFlyer 1 Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 The NDP has no reason to force an election. They have no money and little support. Neither does the CPC. Mr. Poilievre needs time to pivot from his tendency to issue glib but stupid one liners and mature out of his student politician personality. He should enjoy the rest of the year as leader of the opposition. He is guaranteed a large majority but then he will have to deal with a Trump administration and all of the other nightmares that comes with actually having to govern. 1 1 Quote A friend will help you move. A good friend will help you move a body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 21 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: The NDP has no reason to force an election. They have no money and little support. Neither does the CPC. The CPC has plenty of support, and I imagine ample money. 21 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: Mr. Poilievre needs time to pivot from his tendency to issue glib but stupid one liners and mature out of his student politician personality. I don't think time is going to change him. This is who he's always been and what he's always done, and he's never had a real job in his life. 21 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: He should enjoy the rest of the year as leader of the opposition. He is guaranteed a large majority but then he will have to deal with a Trump administration and all of the other nightmares that comes with actually having to govern. I don't think a year helps him at all. I don't think it hurts him, but whether the NDP actually withdraws support (rather than pretending) and they put this pitiful government out of its misery, or they let it suffer it out to the end of term, it's not Poilievre's decision. He'll be there to assume government and we'll see what he's actually capable of at that point. 2 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 (edited) I meant the CPC doesn’t need to have an election this fall. They are guaranteed a big majority so what is the rush? They have loads of money and support. Use the time to refine their message into realistic policy. They need to be aware that the voters are not going to be voting for them, but rather voting against the grits. Edited September 6 by Queenmandy85 Quote A friend will help you move. A good friend will help you move a body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 Just now, Queenmandy85 said: I meant the CPC doesn’t need to have an election this fall. They are guaranteed a big majority so what is the rush? They have loads of money and support. Use the time to refine their message into realistic policy. If the outcome cannot improve by waiting, then why would you? A guaranteed win now is better than a probably guaranteed win later, especially when the status quo is guaranteed incompetence. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefarious Banana Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 26 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: I meant the CPC doesn’t need to have an election this fall. The Canadian citizens need an election this fall. How much more can the country sustain. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITIZEN_2015 Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 15 hours ago, CdnFox said: Looks like we might have an election by the end of October. It can't possibly be end of October. We are already in September. Even if government is defeated today, it will be at least 2 months for campaign till election day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 (edited) The CPC should wait because JT will not get any more popular and it is always better to be in opposition. After the election, they are going to have to govern and they will find out they will have to continue the policies of the grits because governments do not have much choice when it comes to decision making and they will have to explain why they can’t keep their promises. They will cancel the carbon tax but will need to replace it with something worse. The worst thing they will have to deal with is the Trump administration. That will be Mr. Poilievre‘s biggest nightmare. Edited September 6 by Queenmandy85 Quote A friend will help you move. A good friend will help you move a body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted September 6 Author Report Share Posted September 6 "NDP leader Jagmeet Singh has terminated his party’s confidence and supply agreement with the Liberals, boldy staking a claim to independence a few days after Pierre Poilievre told him to." https://www.thebeaverton.com/2024/09/jagmeet-singh-asserts-independence-by-doing-exactly-what-pierre-poilievre-told-him-to/ Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 1 hour ago, Queenmandy85 said: they will have to explain why they can’t keep their promises. Not to their base who will be busily explaining that their Great One is actually delivering on everything that was promised and then some. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefarious Banana Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 2 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said: The CPC should wait because JT will not get any more popular and it is always better to be in opposition. Don't wait . . .this lets the dip-sh!t PM bring in more of his weird policies, more quagmire for any new federal govt. to deal with. At this point there's absoultely nothing that would make Trudeau more popular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted September 6 Report Share Posted September 6 4 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: It can't possibly be end of October. We are already in September. Even if government is defeated today, it will be at least 2 months for campaign till election day. Minimum by law is 36 days for a campaign as of the 90's. So even if they manage to get a confidence motion by the end of september, they can still have an end of october or very beginning of november campaign. Justin COULD make it longer but then anyone biatching about the weather will blame him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted September 7 Report Share Posted September 7 On 9/5/2024 at 8:18 PM, CITIZEN_2015 said: Strange that there aren't many posts in this thread as this was the biggest news at Federal level. Anybody knows when is the next confidence vote in the House of Common in which the government can lose and a Federal election called? It changes nothing. When the NDP votes against the governement on a confidence vote.... Ask Bob Rae. This is posturing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted September 7 Report Share Posted September 7 15 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said: Don't wait . . .this lets the dip-sh!t PM bring in more of his weird policies, more quagmire for any new federal govt. to deal with. At this point there's absoultely nothing that would make Trudeau more popular. If by quagmire and weird you mean everything woke, I fail to see why PP shouldn't have this swamp drained and out of the way of his agenda within a couple of months. Why should it be so hard to get around? It should be no more difficult for PP to deal with than Trudeau getting around the transparency and accountability quagmire Harper left behind. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted September 7 Report Share Posted September 7 1 hour ago, eyeball said: If by quagmire and weird you mean everything woke, I fail to see why PP shouldn't have this swamp drained and out of the way of his agenda within a couple of months. Well that would be because you are a blind tard. Justin spent 10 years systematically destroying every element of our governance and social contract. He broke literally everything. He borrowed more money than every single prime minister before him combined and then some. He talked Canadians how to hate each other and now how to hate immigrants. He has driven our productivity and quality of life to lows we never imagined we would ever see. Our government services are in a shambles and can't deliver basic services in a timely fashion. Militarily speaking we are roughly equivalent to Urkel from family matters. ANd it was all driven by Woke ideology. AND his runaway inflation and the efforts to fight it have now triggered an economic slowdown which is likely to become a recession and leave canada economically weak for some time. But we're going to fix all of that in a couple of months? Well the good news is it won't take long before things get BETTER. Getting rid of the woke will mean we'll start to see improvements fairly quickly and we can start to repair the damage. But voters need to know, voting for the left has ALWAYS meant generations of damage that their children will pay for and suffer for. Vote woke go broke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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