Women's Olympic Boxing

[User]

41 minutes ago, Matthew said:

Cultural creation and social construct are synonymous.

So... do you have me on ignore or are you just ignoring me?

I asked you this question earlier... what do you mean by "women?" What is a woman?

 

[Rebound]

[CdnFox]

On 8/2/2024 at 9:55 AM, Black Dog said:

So that's all it means to be a woman then: genetics?

It's all it means to be female at any rate. Genetics and biology dictate that. 

 

 

[WestCanMan]

42 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Guess what "La Cene Sur La Scene Sur La Seine" translates to, stupid....

Do you see "Dionysus" in that title?

Why would someone accidentally name it "The Last Supper on the Seine" and the have Dionysus in it instead of Jesus? Is it possible that no one involved in that knew anything about Jesus and Dionysus?

In other words, are they all as stupid as you?

 

Posting that cartoon - after you had 6 days to learn about this - is absolute proof that you're a cultist. 

[Deluge]

On 8/2/2024 at 9:12 AM, gatomontes99 said:

I'm not sure why we don't have a thread on this. There has been a lot of controversy over two boxers in the women's event, that are men.

It is clear cut, women and men are not on the same level physically and women should not fight with men in any situation. It is dangerous.

But, allow me to muddy the water. Apparently both boxers have a genetic mutation called 46, XY DSD:

“Morris syndrome is now called 46,XY DSD: androgen insensitivity syndrome. These people have an extremely high level of testosterone and other male sex hormones, but the testosterone does not affect the foetal cells that usually develop into male sexual organs because of a mutation in the androgen receptor gene. These people therefore have male chromosomes but are women socially and in external appearance. They do not have internal female sexual organs, and they form testicles that remain concealed in the abdominal cavity.”

That is a lot harder to parse, in my opinion. They are women in their lives because they have every aspect of a women. Some can even get pregnant and have kids. But they are enjoying a lot of the physical advantages that men have because they produce testosterone at a higher level.

I'll throw this out for the debate: Women's sports should be limited to people that are born female and have no testosterone. If they have this 46, XY DSD, they should be required to take testosterone suppression treatments.

Never send a woman in to do a man's job. 

-- The Left

[User]

1 hour ago, Deluge said:

Never send a woman in to do a man's job. 

-- The Left

The problem is that none of them could define what a woman was. LOL, they all ran away from that question. 

 

[WestCanMan]

On 8/3/2024 at 8:44 PM, User said:

So... do you have me on ignore or are you just ignoring me?

I asked you this question earlier... what do you mean by "women?" What is a woman?

As a matter of principle, all cultists ignore all direct questions because they find telling the truth offensive and unnecessary.

The way they see it, if they don't demand the truth from anyone else, why should it be demanded of them? 

Has a single leftist here ever been offended by a single one of CNN's thousands of lies? Never. They just move on to the next one and shout it from the rooftops, just like they did the last one, shamelessly. 

[Deluge]

20 minutes ago, User said:

The problem is that none of them could define what a woman was. LOL, they all ran away from that question. 

 

That's because they're socially retarded. Most leftoids lurk in the shadows and scream like wild animals anyways. 

[Five of swords]

On 8/2/2024 at 11:12 AM, gatomontes99 said:

I'm not sure why we don't have a thread on this. There has been a lot of controversy over two boxers in the women's event, that are men.

It is clear cut, women and men are not on the same level physically and women should not fight with men in any situation. It is dangerous.

But, allow me to muddy the water. Apparently both boxers have a genetic mutation called 46, XY DSD:

“Morris syndrome is now called 46,XY DSD: androgen insensitivity syndrome. These people have an extremely high level of testosterone and other male sex hormones, but the testosterone does not affect the foetal cells that usually develop into male sexual organs because of a mutation in the androgen receptor gene. These people therefore have male chromosomes but are women socially and in external appearance. They do not have internal female sexual organs, and they form testicles that remain concealed in the abdominal cavity.”

That is a lot harder to parse, in my opinion. They are women in their lives because they have every aspect of a women. Some can even get pregnant and have kids. But they are enjoying a lot of the physical advantages that men have because they produce testosterone at a higher level.

I'll throw this out for the debate: Women's sports should be limited to people that are born female and have no testosterone. If they have this 46, XY DSD, they should be required to take testosterone suppression treatments.

Well the consensus in the western world is that genetics do not matter so you cannot define a woman on the basis of genetics. So women don't exist. This obviously makes it very confusing to determine what woman's boxing is. I don't see why they don't use polar bears.

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

Well the consensus in the western world is that genetics do not matter so you cannot define a woman on the basis of genetics. So women don't exist. This obviously makes it very confusing to determine what woman's boxing is. I don't see why they don't use polar bears.

That is not the consensus in the western world. That is a position popular with many on the left but the majority of people and even actual practicing doctors agree there is a difference betwen men and women biologically (genetics). 

This is why you can't get a date. 

[Hodad]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Guess what "La Cene Sur La Scene Sur La Seine" translates to, stupid....

Do you see "Dionysus" in that title?

Why would someone accidentally name it "The Last Supper on the Seine" and the have Dionysus in it instead of Jesus? Is it possible that no one involved in that knew anything about Jesus and Dionysus?

In other words, are they all as stupid as you?

 

Posting that cartoon - after you had 6 days to learn about this - is absolute proof that you're a cultist. 

Apparently you guys all cut class in 8th grade English when they covered allusion.

[Five of swords]

14 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

That is not the consensus in the western world. That is a position popular with many on the left but the majority of people and even actual practicing doctors agree there is a difference betwen men and women biologically (genetics). 

This is why you can't get a date. 

No, even you yourself would deny that genetics matter. If I suggested that different races cannot thrive in the same environment because they have different genetics, you would insist that genetics don't work that way. Okay whatever. Just expand that to male vs female and make the environment a boxing ring. It all follows from simple logic...but you are spared from cognitive dissonance because you are incapable of simple logic

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, User said:

The problem is that none of them could define what a woman was.

Define?

You must have forgotten how leftards use words. The dictionary is meaningless to them. Words have the same level of fluidity as gender for them.

They can't get basic words like "science" right, and when it comes to words with more than 6 letters.... fuhggedaboudit.

The word vaccine has completely changed now because they've bastardized it so badly, ditto for woman, man, seditious, cognitive dissonance, confirmation bias, etc, etc. 

According to cultists, a woman is "whatever CNN said a woman was this morning, and that's subject to change at their convenience."

That's why they stammer so badly when they're directly confronted by that question... They could give the right answer for today, but they can't be recorded on video stating that definition because if people see it 2 months from now it could get them branded as a misogynist, homophobe, transphobe, [insert pejorative buzzword of the day here].

[CdnFox]

15 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

No, even you yourself would deny that genetics matter.

Maybe, if i was dropped on my head enough 

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If I suggested that different races cannot thrive in the same environment because they have different genetics, you would insist that genetics don't work that way.

Because they dont.  But i wouldn't argue that they're NOT different races.  That's what you're doing is arguing that there AREN"T men and women genetically and that's not how genetics works either, 

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Okay whatever. Just expand that to male vs female and make the environment a boxing ring.

Ok - we've agreed there's different races and they're not the same but they can get along - and traslating that i guess would mean men and women are different genetically too. 

The problem is that the genetics of a male make them bigger and stronger with heavier bone structure and muscles. 

So the difference exists, and it's relevant here. 

You kind of just lost that one kiddo. 

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It all follows from simple logic...but you are spared from cognitive dissonance because you are incapable of simple logic

hoooly shit -   are you a robosmith clone account?!?!    LOLOL  I've never seen anyone misuse that term except for him!  Don't tell me    That's hilarious!!!!!! 

[Five of swords]

16 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Maybe, if i was dropped on my head enough 

Because they dont.  But i wouldn't argue that they're NOT different races.  That's what you're doing is arguing that there AREN"T men and women genetically and that's not how genetics works either, 

Ok - we've agreed there's different races and they're not the same but they can get along - and traslating that i guess would mean men and women are different genetically too. 

The problem is that the genetics of a male make them bigger and stronger with heavier bone structure and muscles. 

So the difference exists, and it's relevant here. 

You kind of just lost that one kiddo. 

hoooly shit -   are you a robosmith clone account?!?!    LOLOL  I've never seen anyone misuse that term except for him!  Don't tell me    That's hilarious!!!!!! 

You are just repeating what I already know: simple logic is too hard for you.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Five of swords said:

Well the consensus in the western world is that genetics do not matter so you cannot define a woman on the basis of genetics. So women don't exist. 

LMAO. 

No one anywhere said any bullshit like that until a few years ago, and science has always been 100% on the other side of that debate, so the only consensus is wherever you're looking inside of your own ass.

FYI some of us don't automatically change our beliefs every time the cultist handlers tell us to.

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You are just repeating what I already know: simple logic is too hard for you

Wrong on all counts:

1. You clearly don't "know" anything, based on the stream of woke BS that just came out of your mouth
2. Nothing is "simple" for you
3. What you call "logic" only rings true when it's "opposite day" and you never got the memo.

[Rebound]

4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Guess what "La Cene Sur La Scene Sur La Seine" translates to, stupid....

Do you see "Dionysus" in that title?

Why would someone accidentally name it "The Last Supper on the Seine" and the have Dionysus in it instead of Jesus? Is it possible that no one involved in that knew anything about Jesus and Dionysus?

In other words, are they all as stupid as you?

 

Posting that cartoon - after you had 6 days to learn about this - is absolute proof that you're a cultist. 

I didn’t name it anything.  You’re the ones getting all bent out of shape over a piece of art, snowflake.  
 

You think it’s fine to insult gays and everybody you don’t like, and when somebody offends you, it makes you go into a tantrum. Boo hoo, snowflake. 

Edited August 5, 2024 by Rebound

[Five of swords]

52 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

LMAO. 

No one anywhere said any bullshit like that until a few years ago, and science has always been 100% on the other side of that debate, so the only consensus is wherever you're looking inside of your own ass.

FYI some of us don't automatically change our beliefs every time the cultist handlers tell us to.

Wrong on all counts:

1. You clearly don't "know" anything, based on the stream of woke BS that just came out of your mouth
2. Nothing is "simple" for you
3. What you call "logic" only rings true when it's "opposite day" and you never got the memo.

So you clearly can't do simple logic either. You also failed to address my point.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Five of swords said:

You are just repeating what I already know:

You literally claimed the opposite was true. 

You've got this weird thing where you make a statement, someone demonstrates that it's inaccurate. and then you claim that's what you meant from the get go.  It's amusing  But  a little odd

At any rate,  genetics and biology is what defines a female.  That's just the way it is. Females are different from males. 

Some people argue that 'gender' is different and that one can have a 'gender' that is closer to the female spectrum despite their being a biological male.  And fair enough.  But that does not change the fact they're a biological male, and biological males are not the same as a bio female.  That's why we have female and male sports in the first place. 

Now run next door and tell little suzi frazer you're very sorry you told her she was no different biologically than a man and that you'd love to go out for coffee sometime   

[Five of swords]

5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You literally claimed the opposite was true. 

You've got this weird thing where you make a statement, someone demonstrates that it's inaccurate. and then you claim that's what you meant from the get go.  It's amusing  But  a little odd

At any rate,  genetics and biology is what defines a female.  That's just the way it is. Females are different from males. 

Some people argue that 'gender' is different and that one can have a 'gender' that is closer to the female spectrum despite their being a biological male.  And fair enough.  But that does not change the fact they're a biological male, and biological males are not the same as a bio female.  That's why we have female and male sports in the first place. 

Now run next door and tell little suzi frazer you're very sorry you told her she was no different biologically than a man and that you'd love to go out for coffee sometime   

Okay. You and your buddy really struggle with statements like 'if x then y'. You have no idea what it means. You just assume it is the same as 'x is true'...but anyone capable of abstract reasoning knows otherwise. But I can't make you capable of abstract reasoning...so it's just a pointless discussion

[CdnFox]

18 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

Okay. You and your buddy really struggle with statements like 'if x then y'.

We really don't kid   LOL we're not the problem here.   

A female and a male is different.  As i pointed out your example was significantly flawed.   As is your logic abilities. 

Go read a book and get back to us   

[Legato]

38 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

Okay. You and your buddy really struggle with statements like 'if x then y'. You have no idea what it means. You just assume it is the same as 'x is true'...but anyone capable of abstract reasoning knows otherwise. But I can't make you capable of abstract reasoning...so it's just a pointless discussion

 

 

An abstract reasoners brain....

[Five of swords]

28 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

We really don't kid   LOL we're not the problem here.   

A female and a male is different.  As i pointed out your example was significantly flawed.   As is your logic abilities. 

Go read a book and get back to us   

Nah. You are both just severely retarded. Anyone following the discussion with at least 70 iq can also see that. There doesn't need to be any commentary here.

[CouchPotato]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

LMAO. 

No one anywhere said any bullshit like that until a few years ago, and science has always been 100% on the other side of that debate, so the only consensus is wherever you're looking inside of your own ass.

FYI some of us don't automatically change our beliefs every time the cultist handlers tell us to.

He is not arguing in favor of gender ideology. He is making an entirely different point. I don't agree with the point he is making, however. He is saying that we are guilty of the same denial of genetic reality because we don't subscribe to his opinions on race. He could have just come out and said that though.

Edited August 5, 2024 by CouchPotato

[CouchPotato]

3 hours ago, Five of swords said:

No, even you yourself would deny that genetics matter.

This is a logical fallacy on your part. He is not denying that at all. You can believe genetics matter without subscribing to your opinion that races cannot get along.

Here is a simple illustration. You are talking about race. We were discussing men and women. Let's use gender, since we both agree on that.

Men and women are different. I know you agree with this. Those differences matter. I am sure you agree with that. Does it automatically follow then that men and women cannot live together and get along?

Edited August 5, 2024 by CouchPotato