The Olympics Alienated Billions

[Chrissy1979]

15 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

. It's her version of Christianity that matters.

Actually, it's Christ's teachings that matter.

[CouchPotato]

9 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Actually, it's Christ's teachings that matter.

Yes, and he was a Jew. He believed in the same moral laws they did. In fact, he was even stricter about them. When it came to adultery, for instance, he said that it included merely looking at another woman with lust. He was not a sexual liberal. He did challenge Pharisees and others for placing more importance upon laws concerning ritual cleanliness than moral laws.

He may have been very merciful to people who broke those laws, but mercy is not an excuse to sin, nor does it abolish the idea of sin.

If you read the Old and New Testament, there is no doubt about what Jesus followers believed. The disciples who established the early Church, the same ones who traveled with Him and learned from him, make the morality Christians ought to have clear in the epistles. I am sure they understood more than you. You would not even know about Him were it not for them. You are creating your own revisionist Christ over 2000 years later. Yes, he had love for everyone. Yes, he had mercy on sinners. That does not mean he condoned sin.

Edited July 30, 2024 by CouchPotato

[Chrissy1979]

How come no one wanted to answer whether an adulterer depicting the Last Supper would be as bad? Why can you not separate the drag queen from the idea of sin, even though there is no commandment about wearing dresses and makeup, and yet you worship an adulterer?

[CouchPotato]

12 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

How come no one wanted to answer whether an adulterer depicting the Last Supper would be as bad?

No one is perfect. So all kinds of sinners are welcome. If someone was an adulterer it would not disqualify them from depicting the Last Supper. You are supposed to turn away from sins. And even people who do struggle sometimes. But if they showed up to the last supper with a babe on each arm it would be offensive. It would show that they have no regard for Jesus at all and that they are not penitent in the least.

Alcohol is not condemned in the Bible, but being a drunkard is. Now are you allowed to go to church if you have ever drank? Of course. Are you allowed to go to church if you've given up and still struggle sometimes? Of course. Is it acceptable to go to church, crack open a bottle of Jim Beam, light up a smoke and laugh about it?

Edited July 30, 2024 by CouchPotato

[Chrissy1979]

You realize there are 10 commandments and "thou shalt not dress in a festive manner" is not one of them, right?

[CouchPotato]

4 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

You realize there are 10 commandments and "thou shalt not dress in a festive manner" is not one of them, right?

Yes, I do realize that. But there are other morals made clear in the Bible besides the ten commandments. For instance, rape is wrong. But it is not mentioned in the ten commandents.

Now, I think if you read the New Testament and the teachings of those who were closest to Jesus you would come away with the idea that this is wrong. It's not explicitly mentioned, though, in the New Testament. The point is people try to ascribe to Jesus all kinds of liberal beliefs because it suits them. It's clear the people who knew Him would not have tolerated these beliefs. The early church would not have tolerated it. But 2000 years later, you think you know better.

In the end, Chrissy1979, we may have to agree to disagree. I did not want to weigh in on this subject. I don't care about the Olympics, and I don't care much for the fanfare around it. But no one is stopping them from doing it. The OP simply said he didn't like it and he was done with the Olympics. A lot of people are saying that.

Edited July 30, 2024 by CouchPotato

[Chrissy1979]

The New Testament says nothing about dressing in drag. All you can find is a quote from Deuteronomy, which also says an unmarried woman who is raped must marry her rapist. Christ's teachings are about loving one another, not about condemning your brother because you think he is unfit to celebrate Christ.

[CouchPotato]

48 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

The New Testament says nothing about dressing in drag.

I admitted as much, Chrissy1979. If you think the Early Church would have found this appropriate based on the other morals preached in the New Testament, I think you are lying to yourself.

No one said their brother is unfit to celebrate Christ. As I pointed out, many people struggle with all kinds of sins. Some people struggle with porn addiction. You don't break out some porn in Church and say well "Jesus loves me."

And furthermore, I don't know if you really believe it, but I really do not believe that they were actually celebrating Christ. I don't think anyone believes that. In fact, if they were it would probably be considered more offensive because that's not very secular behavior at a global event, is it? I think they were trying to be edgy and provocative. They have a legal right to do so, as well. No one here is talking about putting them in jail. The OP simply complained about it and said he was done with the Olympics. He has that right as well. I also don't think they were very edgy or brave at all. Everyone has seen drag queens for years now. They did it and nothing happened other than some complaining, and they made some apologies. No skin off their backs. It's quite easy. Being brave or edgy would be doing something similar but Islam-related at the opening ceremonies for the World Cup in Qatar and then tweeting something about the "gay koran". I suspect they would not be that brave or edgy.

Edited July 30, 2024 by CouchPotato

[User]

2 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said:

I didn't see mockery, unless you consider their very existence to be a mockery. I don't because I'm a Christian and I actually paid attention to Christ's teachings. I would never distort His teachings to denigrate my neighbors and try to score political points.

Is this backwards la la land I am in?

I didn't ask you any of this. 

Again:

How am I using Christ to denigrate my neighbors by pointing out they are using images to mock my faith and Christ?

You have yet to claim if you are a Christian. Are you? Do you believe Christ is the Lord and Savior?

33 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

The New Testament says nothing about dressing in drag. All you can find is a quote from Deuteronomy, which also says an unmarried woman who is raped must marry her rapist. Christ's teachings are about loving one another, not about condemning your brother because you think he is unfit to celebrate Christ.

And yet... you are on here condemning our behavior for pointing out this was offensive and mocking Christians. 

So, in your twisted world it is totes cool to mock The Last Supper... but wrong to point out what they were doing. 

 

[Chrissy1979]

Must all you guys' arguments end in cries of victimhood?

[CouchPotato]

13 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Must all you guys' arguments end in cries of victimhood?

This is hyperbole. People were upset by it. People find it disgusting. No one is making cries of victimhood. They complained. OP is not asking for some kind of compensation. He said he is done with the Olympics. Just exercising his rights.

I don't think you'd be defending it if they did something offensive to Islamists.

Edited July 30, 2024 by CouchPotato

[User]

26 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Must all you guys' arguments end in cries of victimhood?

There are no more cries of victimhood here from us than there are from you. 

 

[Aristides]

I could understand Greeks being offended but Christians, not so much.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Chrissy1979 said:

You realize there are 10 commandments and "thou shalt not dress in a festive manner" is not one of them, right?

Thou shalt not take the lord's name in vain is. Boooyah!!

[User]

13 minutes ago, Aristides said:

I could understand Greeks being offended but Christians, not so much.

Are Greeks big into The Last Supper, more so than Christians?

[CdnFox]

Just now, User said:

Are Greeks big into The Last Supper, more so than Christians?

Have you ever been to one of their weddings?

[Aristides]

24 minutes ago, User said:

Are Greeks big into The Last Supper, more so than Christians?

As usual, you show an American (or should I say, modern) abysmal knowledge of history. The Olympics began over 700 years before the birth of Christ, so no, they weren't. The modern Olympics were originated by a Frenchman, de Coubertin.

Edited July 30, 2024 by Aristides

[User]

6 minutes ago, Aristides said:

As usual, you show an American (or should I say, modern) abysmal knowledge of history. The Olympics began over 700 years before the birth of Christ, so no, they weren't. The modern Olympics were originated by a Frenchman, de Coubertin.

The issue is not my knowledge of history, it your knowledge of this subject. 

[Nationalist]

11 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said:

The New Testament says nothing about dressing in drag. 

ROFLMAO!!!

That's about the thinnest, dumbest argument I've seen in a while.

Chrissy Baby, you don't disappoint. You've got the whole "Entitled little brat" shtick down Babe.

So stoopid. It's down right "Kamala stoopid".

Stay loud Chrissy Baby.

ROFLMAO!!!

[Boges]

They were not trying to make fun of the Last Supper!

Chreestians have some thin-ass skin. 

[User]

5 minutes ago, Boges said:

They were not trying to make fun of the Last Supper!

Chreestians have some thin-ass skin. 

Yes, they were:

French accused of ‘gaslighting’ with ‘Last Supper’ denials as outcry over anti-Christian mocker

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/jul/29/french-accused-of-gaslighting-with-last-supper-den/

 

 

 

 

[Aristides]

[Black Dog]

 

 

[Five of swords]

On 7/27/2024 at 12:22 AM, gatomontes99 said:

Wtf?

Really Olympics?

When I was a kid, it was just about friendly, patriotic competition. Now it is a political spectacle that espouses religious bigotry. I was already disappointed with some of our athletes being overtly political, but this ended it for me. I'm done.

I will not associate with such bigotry.

 

You aren't supposed to like it. You are supposed to obey.

[User]

56 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Amazing how dishonestly you guys argue. First you try to act like it was not mocking and now you move on to whataboutism. 

 

56 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

 

 

I don't like that shirt either... let me know when the Olympics Opening Ceremony promotes it... and I will show you a thread with folks like you upset about it. Rightly so.