'I can’t wait to defund the CBC': Pierre Poilievre doubles down on plan to axe CBC after board approves bonuses

[taxme]

On 7/16/2024 at 8:43 PM, herbie said:

As usual the old fallback as he has no plans for anything actually useful.

Defunding the Communist Broadcasting Corporation would seem quite the useful thing to be doing. The Canadian taxpayer's are getting ripped off big time every year by having to continue to fund that pile of excrement called the CBC. The CBC is full of activist leftist liberal social justice warrior woke buffoons who do nothing for their undeserved salaries. Bonuses for a bunch of useless woke buffoons is one big joke and it needs to end now. Enough already.

If you were useful for something, it would be a bloody miracle indeed. 🤡

[taxme]

On 7/17/2024 at 1:50 PM, Michael Hardner said:

They're electing right and left wing 'other guys'.

If anybody thinks they have an answer, they're wrong.

That's why I started the Poilievre predictions thread in my club.  People actually think cutting the CBC will bring prosperity to Canada.  That and the carbon tax and a slight immigration cut will make it all good.

I think that US foreign policy is more important for our economy at this point.  And trade policy.  

Getting rid of the CBC would help save the Canadian taxpayer's over a billion of our tax dollars every year. That is prosperity for Canada and Canadians. 

The carbon tax is just another new leftist liberal tax rip off and nothing more for Canadians who are struggling already to pay their bills. The carbon tax is just another globalist pile of climate crisis bullchit. 

Massive immigration is costing our medical and social services unnecessary and is damaging more of the environment. 

Your club would be the last club that i would ever want to join.Your club looks dumb. 😁

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

Nonsense. Much of the CBC is sports.

And?  So what.  Other stations will pick up the sports, cbc sold hockey ages ago. And removing the CBC from the advertiser's pool will make it easier for the other stations to attract those ad dollars that CBC was somewhat unfairly bidding low on and that will help private media sources grow stronger.  Which saves the gov't having to bail them out as much. 

I feel like you kind of made my point for me. 

But - the vast vast vast majority of the cbc is 'Canadian programming' and funding it, and news/commentary.  All of it completely bias. Canadian artists and writers get nothing unless they're 'friends' of the cbc board and doing shows that are politically acceptable to them (seen this myself) and the news is insanely bias. 

Waaaaaaay too late.  If you liked the cbc then 'fixing' it is something you should have been screaming for at least 20 years ago and every day since. Now its' too late, Defund it and it can go to hell,  OR it's proponents like you can fund it out of your own pockets if you think the content is that good. 

1 hour ago, taxme said:

Getting rid of the CBC would help save the Canadian taxpayer's over a billion of our tax dollars every year. That is prosperity for Canada and Canadians. 

 

It would also put hundreds of millions of advertising dollars back on the market for private companies to bid on which would mean that we would probably need to subsidize private companies less as well.

The CBC is an anchor that holds back the Canadian industry. It needs to be defunded

[herbie]

Oh we can all learn we need to know about Canada from Fox News, right? We don't need our pwn non-commercial broadcaster we need more corporate interests telling us how things are.
Might as well defund KNOW knowledge network too. Knowledge is communism, right?

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[CdnFox]

Just now, herbie said:

Oh we all learn about Canada from Fox News, right?

We learn about Canada from global, ctv, true north, tyee, national post, toronto sun, vancouver province and sun, and hundreds and hundreds of other media, news, radio and internet sources. 

And they'll all have more of the market space once cbc is dead and in the dust. 

3 minutes ago, herbie said:

Might as well defund KNOW knowledge network too. Knowledge is communism, right?

How would you know? You've never had any.

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Mostly, we're talking about political and news programming. You replace some anchors and producers and have bias unit looking for political bias and you're halfway there. 

What on Earth is a bias unit?

Btw, are conservative politicians in other countries rushing to do away with their public broadcasters for the same reason as our's? Are conservatives everywhere suffering from the same moral panic gripping conservatives here, or is this a uniquely Canadian paranoia?

 

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

What on Earth is a bias unit?

Btw, are conservative politicians in other countries rushing to do away with their public broadcasters for the same reason as our's? Are conservatives everywhere suffering from the same moral panic gripping conservatives here, or is this a uniquely Canadian paranoia?

 

Also, the ANCHORS WHO READ WHAT'S ON THE TELEPROMPTER are biased 🤣

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Also, the ANCHORS WHO READ WHAT'S ON THE TELEPROMPTER are biased 🤣

So you're claiming there's no bias at the cbc?

All you're doing with your nonsense is proving even more why there's no saving it. 

[Michael Hardner]

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So you're claiming there's no bias at the cbc?

I didn't say that.  You're too smart to infer that from what I posted also.

So . I'm guessing that you're trying to scare up an argument with me out of nothing because you miss me. It's kind of sweet. I'm touched. 🥰

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I didn't say that. 

Didn't you? i think that's precisely what you were implying, that claims of bias are false and unreasonable. 

Which is in keeping with your liberal mindset. 

 

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You're too smart to infer that from what I posted also.

Please.  I'm too smart to fall for the "you're too smart' mindgame at the very least   

the bias at the CBC is pervasive. Trying to downplay it or mock those pointing it out simply demonstrates why it's too late to fix it - the left will NEVER take it seriously. 

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So . I'm guessing that you're trying to scare up an argument with me out of nothing because you miss me. It's kind of sweet. I'm touched. 🥰

Miss you? I haven't even shot at you yet   LOL (whaddaythink yer trump or something??)_ 

And i usually will take the time to point out when  you make a strongly left wing comment, Mr I'm-a-conservative-no-really-i-am!!!! 

[I am Groot]

21 hours ago, eyeball said:

What on Earth is a bias unit?

Btw, are conservative politicians in other countries rushing to do away with their public broadcasters for the same reason as our's? Are conservatives everywhere suffering from the same moral panic gripping conservatives here, or is this a uniquely Canadian paranoia?

 

Got nothing to do with bias. Got everything to do with not wanting to fund a highly politicized organization that slants its news against you and preaches the same anti-western, anti-capitalist bullshit as the woke academics. We don't need a government-funded network fixated on what a horrible place Canada is and has always been.

[I am Groot]

20 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Also, the ANCHORS WHO READ WHAT'S ON THE TELEPROMPTER are biased 🤣

There you go showing your conservative side again. 🙄

[Michael Hardner]

26 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

There you go showing your conservative side again. 🙄

Questioning the assertion that a talking puppet is showing bias, that's not conservative it's just critical thinking 🤔 

[CouchPotato]

On 7/19/2024 at 4:46 PM, CdnFox said:

Get rid of it, pocket the money and spend all that political energy and capital on something worth while.  If the left or others wanted the CBC saved, they should have cared about fixing it a long time ago, 

 

I would shed no tears if the CBC disappeared, but I wonder if it's really going to happen. I also don't know if it would be smart politically. We may think the bias is sickening. But even a lot of people who vote conservative still watch it, especially older people. I think it would have to be phased out gradually.

[eyeball]

4 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Got nothing to do with bias. Got everything to do with not wanting to fund a highly politicized organization that slants its news against you and preaches the same anti-western, anti-capitalist bullshit as the woke academics. We don't need a government-funded network fixated on what a horrible place Canada is and has always been.

That what you call full blown moral panic. When was the last time you swapped out your bullshit filters? They're not maintenance free you know.

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, CouchPotato said:

 

I would shed no tears if the CBC disappeared, but I wonder if it's really going to happen. I also don't know if it would be smart politically. We may think the bias is sickening. But even a lot of people who vote conservative still watch it, especially older people. I think it would have to be phased out gradually.

Well, we have to remember what he's promised. He has promised to defund it. And sell off its government control of assets. He hasn't said he would shut it down. 

Historically for this kind of thing if you're going to do it at all you do it fairly early on. You want to give people four years to forget about it. He might leave a little funding for some things, cBC radio is actually almost completely self-funding and I believe he did at one point say he would leave some of the french language programming in place or do something similar

.But get rid of it. There will be some who just like it but frankly that's one of those things where it's better to tear off the band-Aid and then give some extra advertising dollars to the surviving media who likes you to write tons of opinion pieces about how better the world is now that they're gone. 

[CouchPotato]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

But get rid of it. There will be some who just like it but frankly that's one of those things where it's better to tear off the band-Aid and then give some extra advertising dollars to the surviving media who likes you to write tons of opinion pieces about how better the world is now that they're gone. 

You may well be right. I just think there would be a ton of backlash. Even from the conservative voting public. A lot of them probably don't know that conservatives disliking the CBC is a thing. I know Pierre has openly promised it, but I am willing to bet you a lot of people are unaware of that. Like it or not, the CBC is kind of an institution in Canada.

We shall see what happens, I guess.

[PIK]

Red Rosie?? Lol

[CdnFox]

9 hours ago, CouchPotato said:

You may well be right. I just think there would be a ton of backlash. Even from the conservative voting public. A lot of them probably don't know that conservatives disliking the CBC is a thing. I know Pierre has openly promised it, but I am willing to bet you a lot of people are unaware of that. Like it or not, the CBC is kind of an institution in Canada.

We shall see what happens, I guess.

I can tell you that most conservatives know that disliking the CBC is a thing  

And PP has been very very straightforward and clear about it, and spoken about it at most of his rallys which have been very very well attended. There's been many articles.  

There will be a little 'backlash' mostly from the left, but it's hard to get too worked up about something someone ran on explicitly and won a majority over.  This would be similar to the dope issue - the CPC was against it but they ran on it and won a majority and that's the end of that.  And the cpc won't reverse it when they get in - the people spoke on that. 

PP would legitimately say "if i dont do it you'll harass me for 4 years about my 'broken promises'. "   and they would. 

The political backlash will be minimal compared to the benefit of silencing what is essentially a cheering and propaganda aparantus for the liberal party.   AND if  he's smart he announces several intiitves to cover some of what the CBC used to do (like promoting the creation of Canadian content, except without the ultra-woke governance boad making the decisions about who's 'worthy').  That way he takes power away from the elite left wing propaganda people and shifts it back to the center and PP still looks like a supporter of the arts. 

Like most politics it's a shell game. Move the peices around fast enough and you control which shell the people are paying attention to. In the long run it'l be a major political benefit. 

 

 

 

[I am Groot]

13 hours ago, eyeball said:

That what you call full blown moral panic. When was the last time you swapped out your bullshit filters? They're not maintenance free you know.

Ah well, the reason people like you don't see it is that they echo your own beliefs, your own repugnance at our history and the state of society, your own contempt at the thought of protecting our culture and values. I doubt you take in any news that isn't from the CBC lest a stray impure thought pass through your head.

[I am Groot]

17 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Questioning the assertion that a talking puppet is showing bias, that's not conservative it's just critical thinking 🤔 

No, it's defending the status quo, which you like, and which conservatives do not. You think Rosemary Barton has no bias? That everything she says is fed to her by someone else? She and the rest of the commentariat at the CBC, and those who work with them, incl producers have long shown a pronounced left-wing bias. They say polls have shown over 90% of US academics are liberal or progressive. I presume it's the same in Canada, or worse. And worse still at the CBC. How many people do you think work at the CBC and support the Conservative party? Any at all?

[Michael Hardner]

28 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

No, it's defending the status quo, ..

 

I stopped reading after that. I didn't defend anything, I just pointed out your silliness. Not my fault if you can't take criticism...

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I stopped reading after that.

Oh look, Mr Conservative didn't want to hear a different point of view from his own. Stopped reading. Doesn't want to be exposed to ideas that conflict with his echo chamber

Also constantly cries about how much he wishes people would have civil discourse sharing different ideas. 🙄

good for you.  A REAL man never lets a fear of hypocrisy or ignorance hold him back. 

[CouchPotato]

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

No, it's defending the status quo, which you like, and which conservatives do not. You think Rosemary Barton has no bias? That everything she says is fed to her by someone else? She and the rest of the commentariat at the CBC, and those who work with them, incl producers have long shown a pronounced left-wing bias. They say polls have shown over 90% of US academics are liberal or progressive. I presume it's the same in Canada, or worse. And worse still at the CBC. How many people do you think work at the CBC and support the Conservative party? Any at all?

I think CBC's bias is most obvious in the way they cover American politics. The same is true for all the mainstream media in Canada. I was really surprised other day to see that CBC had an actual Trump supporter on to counter a Democrat they were talking to. I don't know if that's the first time that has ever happened, but I think it's the first time I have seen it. When it comes to a news story about Trump, they usually follow it by reaching out for the "expert opinion" from some university professor you've never heard of who assures us all (much like the last professor they had on) that Trump is very bad. Criticism of Democrats is allowed, but speaking positively about Trump is very taboo.

[Michael Hardner]

4 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

I think CBC's bias is most obvious in the way they cover American politics. 

I can see that.

One thing we do know is that TV stations don't ask the news readers what the content should be... 🤣