Halifax: Mob of 'middle eastern men' brutally beat lesbian couple out celebrating a birthday

[CdnFox]

Mob of 'middle eastern men' brutally beat lesbian couple out celebrating a birthday - LBC

Emma MacLean was walking with her girlfriend Tori in Halifax, Canada when a group of about ten ‘middle eastern men, believed to be from Syria’ came towards them.

 

There's that compassionate muslim upbringing that's so tolerant of gays that we've heard about. 

[Michael Hardner]

It's pretty transparent when you only care about hate crimes that are committed by brown people....

You can fill in your own conclusion as will I.

[CdnFox]

Just now, Michael Hardner said:

It's pretty transparent when you only care about hate crimes that are committed by brown people....

You can fill in your own conclusion as will I.

It's pretty tranparent when you only care about making cheap political points rather than dealing with the actual crime.

Is there some recent news article about a group of white guys beating up a lesbian that I missed? No?

So much for you lefty sticking up for gays and lesbians. You're happy and fine with seeing them getting beaten up as long as it's a group that you approve of. Disgusting

[Legato]

20 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

It's pretty transparent when you only care about hate crimes that are committed by brown people....

You can fill in your own conclusion as will I.

Ha yes the opaque transparency you often regurgitate.

[herbie]

Te WHY in why it was posted is because it will help portray Middle Eastern people in a bad light. Otherwise the crime would matter, not the ethnicity.

Otherwise we could twist it and say look how they fit right in, their fun-dumb-mentalists are as screwed in the head as other fun-dumb-mentalists. They tried to fit in but identified rednecks as normal Canadians

[Michael Hardner]

55 minutes ago, Legato said:

Ha yes the opaque transparency you often regurgitate.

If you have something valuable to add, please do.

32 minutes ago, herbie said:

Te WHY in why it was posted is because it will help portray Middle Eastern people in a bad light. Otherwise the crime would matter, not the ethnicity.

Spot on.

[I am Groot]

Interesting this should be in a British paper. In fact, it's in a bunch of British newspapers, from the Daily Mail (of course) to the Sun and Metro. I know no mainstream Canadian news media would ever report the background of the attackers. For example, here is how it was reported on CTV Atlantic.

A birthday celebration turned into a nightmare for a same-sex couple in downtown Halifax on Saturday after they got into a violent altercation with a group of men.

https://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/i-m-terrified-to-go-downtown-again-halifax-woman-recovering-after-altercation-with-group-of-men-who-allegedly-made-homophobic-slurs-1.6945975

The Toronto sun also has a similar report to CTV. The only other Canadian site to report it is the Western Standard.

Two Halifax lesbians were brutally attacked by a mob of Muslim men believed to be from Syria.

The women, Emma MacLean and Tori Hogan, were celebrating a birthday June 22 in the city’s downtown area at about 1:30 a.m. local time, when the group of about a dozen Middle Eastern men verbally accosted them with rude comments about their sexuality. 

https://www.westernstandard.news/news/halifax-lesbian-couple-beaten-by-throng-of-syrian-men/55731

It's interesting how censorous Canadian media is in comparison to the British. How they decide to cut out part of the information because... because why? Because reading that isn't good for us? Because we'll see that and perhaps go out and attack Muslims? Why? I don't know why Canadian/American media turned into public censors of information, but they've been doing it for years and it's a part of why they aren't trusted anymore.

Edited July 3 by I am Groot

[Guest]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Otherwise the crime would matter, not the ethnicity

No, I think its apt to point out cultural or ethnic background, to any group of men who would feel justified in beating a couple women bloody.

In public, no less. Those are animals. Not men.

For a group of ten men to beat a woman, am sorry, but that narrows it down to a few demographics.

The fact not one of them was stopping things with a: "dude, WTF.." sort of tells you they're from somewhere this type of behavior is acceptable.

The specific country may not have been necessary, but the cultural belief where this is commonly accepted, would be.

Sorry, but you can't request political correctness when multiple people from a country where women's rights are oxymoronic in nature, commit acts in a western country that are unacceptable both legally and socially.

This notion that "not all" are that way, to me is pointing the obvious.

Put the spotlight on those that are that way, and make the rest think twice.

[User]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

It's pretty transparent when you only care about hate crimes that are committed by brown people....

You can fill in your own conclusion as will I.

It is pretty transparent when your first thought is to turn this into a cheap shot at the poster who brought it up instead of condemning what happened. 
 

[Michael Hardner]

30 minutes ago, User said:

It is pretty transparent when your first thought is to turn this into a cheap shot at the poster who brought it up instead of condemning what happened. 
 

The most obvious thing would be to condemn the crime without asking why the other numerous examples of these crimes NOT committed by Arabs or minorities are ever reported by this poster or in general on here.

Now go get your cap and gown.... 

[User]

7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

The most obvious thing would be to condemn the crime without asking why the other numerous examples of these crimes NOT committed by Arabs or minorities are ever reported by this poster or in general on here.

Now go get your cap and gown.... 

I don't think you are willing to really look at what the answer to that might be. 

[Legato]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

If you have something valuable to add, please do.

Spot on.

My post has infinite more value than your cheap shot. The fact that you would disregard the crime to make that woke comment says it all.

[Army Guy]

3 hours ago, herbie said:

Te WHY in why it was posted is because it will help portray Middle Eastern people in a bad light. Otherwise the crime would matter, not the ethnicity.

Otherwise we could twist it and say look how they fit right in, their fun-dumb-mentalists are as screwed in the head as other fun-dumb-mentalists. They tried to fit in but identified rednecks as normal Canadians

Actually i think the 10 men did a fine job bring credit to the entire middle eastern men population by themselves...CDNfox did not make this story, they did...does it paint brown people in a bad lite...sure it does, but i think this story needs to be told...why does it take 10 men to beat up 2 girls...10 men beating up any girls should be something that concerns us all, the fact that it was two LGBTQ girls, makes it a hate crime, correct me if i'm wrong....and all hate crimes should be stories...that we all should be interested in...

In this case these 10 men should be arrested , and if found guilty should be deported...I may not fully support the LGBTQ community, but this, come on man this is pure hate through and through...and we have enough hate in this country...

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, herbie said:

Te WHY in why it was posted is because it will help portray Middle Eastern people in a bad light. Otherwise the crime would matter, not the ethnicity.

Sorry, did you happen to have a gang beating story that cast them in a good light? I'll be happy to post that.

In any case you're wrong. We are currently importing people from that part of the world and of the same time there are demonstrations in both Canada and America by gay people insisting that these people are loving and accepting of homosexuality and queer lifestyles.

Gang beating two women because you disagree with them being gay would suggest otherwise

That might not be very convenient for your echo chamber, but it is a fact. 

17 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Actually i think the 10 men did a fine job bring credit to the entire middle eastern men population by themselves...CDNfox did not make this story, they did...does it paint brown people in a bad lite...sure it does, but i think this story needs to be told...why does it take 10 men to beat up 2 girls...10 men beating up any girls should be something that concerns us all, the fact that it was two LGBTQ girls, makes it a hate crime, correct me if i'm wrong....and all hate crimes should be stories...that we all should be interested in...

In this case these 10 men should be arrested , and if found guilty should be deported...I may not fully support the LGBTQ community, but this, come on man this is pure hate through and through...and we have enough hate in this country...

Of course it's a hate crime. But because I'm white and male bringing it up for discussion is also a hate crime. Apparently, according to Michael

[herbie]

10 men beat up two women out celebrating.

The ethnicity of the men and the sexuality of the women are secondary to the crime. And even though you can't admit it, everyone knows the reason you posted it was exactly the reason I said.

blash blah something shitty about immigrants, Muslims, Trudeau, Liberals, Canada etc. etc.etc. Ya live in the BEST country in the world, ya got it? Get a life FFS.

[CdnFox]

5 minutes ago, herbie said:

10 men beat up two women out celebrating.The ethnicity of the men and the sexuality of the women are secondary to the crime.

Says who? Their ethnicity and upbringing and belief system probably is at the core of it.

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And even though you can't admit it, everyone knows the reason you posted it was exactly the reason I said.

I stated my reason for posting it. You're weird little fever dream imagination has nothing to do with reality.

 

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blash blah something shitty about immigrants, Muslims, Trudeau, Liberals, Canada etc. etc.etc. Ya live in the BEST country in the world, ya got it? 

Not if you're a lesbian living in Halifax apparently. It's amazing how you want to gloss over any violent crime like this if it's committed by a group that you approve of.

Why don't you go triple the value of your  house again with your credit card.  

[Michael Hardner]

8 hours ago, Legato said:

 The fact that you would disregard the crime to make that woke comment says it all.

And yet in two posts, you merely make assertions and call things woke as though that adds value.

Can you say anything at all with regards to the substance of my point? Ie. That certain crimes are highlighted here only because of the race of the perpetrators?

Because you didn't say anything about that.  It's still unexplained.

[Guest]

7 hours ago, herbie said:

The ethnicity of the men and the sexuality of the women are secondary to the crime.

Depends. 

Why did they beat the women? That answer could make the sexuality be the prime thing one should look like.

Same as if upon finding out, they are from a country where homosexuality isn't as acceptable, nor have they adapted to our culture. To me, this would require being included in the story.

Honor killings are perfectly acceptable in some countries.

Stoning. Necklacing. If you don't know what the latter two are, consider yourself lucky. The screams of someone being burned to death, are sounds you will take to your grave.

The scary part, is in some countries, including the one I draw roots from (Haiti), this will evoke cheers and even laughter from some crowds.

If you bring any of that here, you should be humiliated and there should be zero fear of denouncing the practice.

Its not an honor killing. In Canada, it's murder.

2 women being beaten by two men, is cowardice from the men.

What type of man would commit such an act, is something that should be looked into.

7 hours ago, herbie said:

something shitty about immigrants

I am Haitian. My parents were refugees. 

They understood upon entry, that respect is something they would need to earn. Nothing would be given to them.

They busted their butts making an honest living simply to give their kids a better opportunity in the future.

While I don't like being painted by the same brush as some of my peers, I can understand where it comes from.

I have relatives that are savages. Felons. Women beaters. Cheaters.

Welfare frauds with over 5 kids. 

Seems like those parts of my family feel entitled to behave the way they did, due to what white people have done to them. This is acceptable thinking to them.

The woke crowd even wish to fan that hatred and anger.

I have yet to meet one of my relatives who's plight wasn't self inflicted. Say anything, and am not black.

I was a bookworm. Studied hard  because I saw my environment. That was enough to spark a fire in me. This to my peers, was me trying to be white.

The issue is that type of village people thinking isn't called out. Its seemingly celebrated.

And people wonder why some of these environments are infested with crime?

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

 

I have yet to meet one of my relatives who's plight wasn't self inflicted. ...

And people wonder why some of these environments are infested with crime?

Your post is very interesting to me.  I am NOT saying that your perspective is "incorrect" but in the first sentence above you claim that the plight is self -inflicted while in the second you acknowledge "environment".

 

It makes me step back and wonder... how do we talk intelligently about "generalization" ? When do we have a right or duty to use this logical construction called generalization?

 

[Legato]

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

And yet in two posts, you merely make assertions and call things woke as though that adds value.

Can you say anything at all with regards to the substance of my point? Ie. That certain crimes are highlighted here only because of the race of the perpetrators?

Because you didn't say anything about that.  It's still unexplained.

And yet in one post you attempted to downplay crimes if they're committed by brown people..

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

And yet in two posts, you merely make assertions and call things woke as though that adds value.

Pot meet kettle. Your comment added nothing but making a similar claim about me. No logic or reason, no addressing the issue. 

This is why so many think you're dishonest Mike. 

A man who brings nothing to the discussion. and STILL has brought nothing to the discussion, really can't complain about others not bringing anything to the discussion.

[Michael Hardner]

19 minutes ago, Legato said:

And yet in one post you attempted to downplay crimes if they're committed by brown people..

I'm not downplaying them. A crime is a crime.  I did point out that crimes by brown types warrant special attention on here, and wider implications are simply assumed to be true.  Otherwise why cite the race of the person with no additional context.

This is my point.  Do you have a response, or will you just go back to calling me "woke" again? 🤔

[CdnFox]

12 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I'm not downplaying them. 

Of course you did. I didn't hear a single word from you about how terrible the crime was. And in fact the best of my recollection I've never posted anything about "brown" crime as you put it. I've posted a tonne of 'white' crime stories.  So the idea that I give it special attention is laughable.

Your whole goal was to take away from the crime and make it about some cheesy version of racism.

Precisely what we would expect from someone on the left like yourself. But don't pretend otherwise. You don't care about the crime, you care about your political ideology.

[Legato]

24 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I'm not downplaying them. A crime is a crime.  I did point out that crimes by brown types warrant special attention on here, and wider implications are simply assumed to be true.  Otherwise why cite the race of the person with no additional context.

This is my point.  Do you have a response, or will you just go back to calling me "woke" again? 🤔

The colour of their skin is not the point, it's a third world norm being practiced in a first world country that needs to be brought to peoples attention. That is what the OP did and you twisted it into a skin colour problem.

[Michael Hardner]

15 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

1. Of course you did. I didn't hear a single word from you about how terrible the crime was.

2. And in fact the best of my recollection I've never posted anything about "brown" crime as you put it.

3. I've posted a tonne of 'white' crime stories.  So the idea that I give it special attention is laughable.

 

1. This is a board for discussion and analysis.  If the morality of the criminal act isn't in question, and why would it be, why must I virtue signal in that?

2. Until now I assume.

3. Have you posted anti LGBTQ hate crimes and expected me to comment on it?  The whole point of this case is that ME guys did it.

You tagged in an ad hominem there... needs a napkin...

 

2 minutes ago, Legato said:

The colour of their skin is not the point, it's a third world norm being practiced in a first world country that needs to be brought to peoples attention. That is what the OP did and you twisted it into a skin colour problem.

Ok, then let's go THERE.  Muslims committed a crime, let's say. 

Let's be clear that people don't generally post anti LGBTQ crimes on here.  The idea seems to be that we can just assume that ME people (?) need special attention on this.