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55 minutes ago, myata said:

The situation now is more troubling than in the period leading up to the WWII: back then, Germany and Italy were no match for the combined power of the free world, if it stayed determined and united. In two decades, can the same be said of the rising dictatorial axis of Russia, China, North Korea, Cuba and the bunch that supports them, openly or tacitly? Is it the time to throw them a bone and see what happens next? This is about way more than Ukraine. The buffoon cares only about hot air in his cheeks and the chair for his bum but this is about the future of all. By what miracles can it be avoided, with what hot air? Amazing carelessness.

No. This if factually incorrect. The Allies Trio had agreed to division of Europe, it was wrong and was admitted so. Nobody has agreed to and accepted Russia's occupation. Why couldn't you see things for what they are, factually and objectively? What's wrong?

Actually Mushmouth...you are wrong.

Here's Obammy's limp explanation...

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/4063939-obama-defends-2014-crimea-response-in-cnn-interview/

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Posted
9 minutes ago, myata said:

And the dead brain buzz goes on and on. Why bother about the reality?

I assume you're talking to the mirror again. 

There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

Posted
2 hours ago, myata said:

Only three dead buzz harmonics. Yaaaaaaawwwn.

You're talking about your braincells right?

There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

Posted
2 hours ago, myata said:

Only three dead buzz harmonics. Yaaaaaaawwwn.

Well sir you seem to vibrate with all the anharmonic frequencies.

Posted
8 hours ago, ironstone said:

Like Obama agreed with the annexation of Crimea?

No. They agreed on this partition of Europe before World War II ended.  They agreed to divide Germany, and also Berlin as well.  However, the West was betrayed when Stalin prohibited free elections, which was a condition of the partition. 

41 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You're talking about your braincells right?

At least he has some. 

@reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”

 

Posted
On 6/16/2024 at 7:52 PM, suds said:

I don't agree with Trump's plan to cut aid to Ukraine, but if Trump was such a Putin cheerleader, why didn't he invade while Trump was in office?

As Politico accurately described:

 

With Trump in office, Putin was already getting what he wanted. The election changed all that.

Consider where Trump and Biden stand on three key issue areas the Kremlin cares deeply about: NATO, political leadership in Ukraine and undermining democracy. Under Trump, there was little daylight between Russia and the United States on these issues.

Even as Trump’s vocal criticisms may have inadvertently strengthened the alliance, Trump worked to diminish the influence of NATO, reportedly planning to withdraw from it in his second term. As a candidate, Trump had even remarked that, “Maybe NATO will dissolve, and that’s OK, that’s not the worst thing in the world.”

Trump also broke with longstanding bipartisan support of Ukraine. During the Trump administration’s first year, Volodymyr Zelenskyy was still a showman whose comedy troupe performed patriotic musical numbers with lyrics like “There’s fog over Brussels and frost in Washington” and used a MeToo leitmotifcomparing Ukraine’s treatment by Russia and the West to a sexual assault. When Zelenskyy beat an incumbent president in a landslide, Trump actually withheld military aid to Ukraine, sending personal emissaries to Kyiv to try to pressure and undermine Zelenskyy in the eyes of Ukrainians by asking him to “do us a favor, though.”
 

And both while in office and since leaving it, Trump worked tirelessly to cast doubt on the legitimacy of American elections, going to great yet unsuccessful lengths to find evidence of fraud in the 2020 presidential contest. Trump makes assertions about American elections that echo the Kremlin’s, even reciting a trope about voting by “dead souls” that comes from 19th century Russian literature. At rallies Trump repeats the same claims he made the day of the January 6 attack on the Capitol: “You don’t concede when there’s theft involved.”

The truth is that during his administration, Trump’s policy alignment with Putin advanced the aims of Russia’s political elites, who could imagine that the United States was on their side. Their comfort with Trump was evident from the start; Americans may remember that Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov was warmly received in the White House and photographed in the Oval Office, while Russian parliament members toasted Trump’s electoral victory in 2016.

 

This comfort evaporated with the election of Biden. And for good reason: from the start, the Biden administration has been at odds with Putin on the issues Putin needs to care about to preserve his own rule. After Biden’s election, Russian political elites once again articulated profound, existential anxieties about a renewed United States projecting its power abroad. State television in Russia emphasized the Kremlin will not allow American influence in Ukraine, “regardless of the cost to us, and regardless of the cost to those responsible for it.”

The Biden White House has taken positions opposite those of the Trump administration on NATO. Biden has insisted on principles of state sovereignty, reaffirming and rebuilding the United States’ trans-Atlantic relationships, including strengthening NATO.

 

Biden took meaningful steps to support Ukraine in defending itself. Far from undermining Ukraine’s democratically elected government, the Biden administration has tried to create roadblocks for the Kremlin by getting inside Putin’s decision cycle, declassifying and broadcasting intelligence about Russia’s plans to attack Ukraine. Biden exhausted diplomatic channels trying to come to a peaceful resolution and worked with allies to prepare a sanctions package in advance of a Russian invasion.

And Biden has worked to protect democracy. Unlike Trump, rather than questioning the integrity of contests his party lost, Biden has spoken forcefully about the close legal scrutiny and fairness of all the 2020 elections. And he has supported congressional efforts to protect the franchise in the United States.

In Trump, Putin had a fellow-traveler. Far from ensuring world peace, the Trump years instead offered Putin a useful pause he utilized to further military readiness and prime the Russian population for a hot war. Earlier this month, the Russian state adopted new standards for mass graves — not because of the coronavirus pandemic in Russia, but for situations that involve “urban destruction.”
 

Far from deterring Putin, Trump did the opposite. Thanks to Trump, Putin was able to take advantage of a period of apparent detente during which Trump actually pursued Putin’s own policies of weakening NATO and democracy and destabilizing the West — leaving Putin free to prepare his war against the free people of Ukraine and their democratically elected government.


https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/03/02/putin-invade-ukraine-trump-00012897

 

 

 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Rebound said:

No. They agreed on this partition of Europe before World War II ended.  They agreed to divide Germany, and also Berlin as well.  However, the West was betrayed when Stalin prohibited free elections, which was a condition of the partition. 

At least he has some. 

3 and they're apparently buzzing?  Not sure that's much of a flex there big guy :) 

There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

Posted (edited)
8 hours ago, Rebound said:

However, the West was betrayed when Stalin prohibited free elections, which was a condition of the partition. 

Well, in all honesty this sounds like a biiiiiig stretch of credibility. No way they couldn't know about Stalin's infamous purges before WWII or genocidal Holodomor. Stalin and "free elections"? That couldn't have been even a joke.

These people were betrayed by the leaders of the West plain and simple, when Stalin was allowed to enslave them.

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If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant

Posted (edited)
9 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

 China is Russia’s ally you dumbass. Along with North Korea, where Putin just visited 

That makes you the China slut. 

I'm sorry, dumbf*ck, but all four of you are more or less communists, and that makes you inseparable. 

Now, Trump can see opportunities to help keep these a$$holes from bombing the shit out of everything they see, but that's as far as it goes. 

You rainbow a$$holes can't stand Putin and that's only because he's anti-woke; but Russia itself still has a substantial communistic presence, which I'm sure you Marxists very much approve of. 

No, YOU are the China sluts. WE are just true Americans. ;) 

 

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Posted
53 minutes ago, Deluge said:

No, YOU are the China sluts. WE are just true Americans.

If a person who happens to be well connected to the president takes millions of dollars from China, wouldn't that person fit the definition of a 'China slut'?

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Posted
19 minutes ago, ironstone said:

If a person who happens to be well connected to the president takes millions of dollars from China, wouldn't that person fit the definition of a 'China slut'?

Absolutely. 

Just like selling land to the Chinese would make someone a "China Slut".

The truth is, the vast majority of democrats wish the Chinese (or some other foreign power) would just come in and completely take over. It's what America hating psychopaths wish for above all else. 

Posted
14 hours ago, Rebound said:

 

At least he has some. 

Ya 2. And I understand if they are rubbed together they cause sparks to fly out his ears.

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Posted
7 hours ago, Deluge said:

I'm sorry, dumbf*ck, but all four of you are more or less communists, and that makes you inseparable. 

Now, Trump can see opportunities to help keep these a$$holes from bombing the shit out of everything they see, but that's as far as it goes. 

You rainbow a$$holes can't stand Putin and that's only because he's anti-woke; but Russia itself still has a substantial communistic presence, which I'm sure you Marxists very much approve of. 

No, YOU are the China sluts. WE are just true Americans. ;) 

 

FACT:  Russia China North Korea and Iran are all allies and by extension so are Hamas, Houthis and Hezbollah. They all support each other economically and militarily. All of them are anti-woke. If you are supporting one of them you are supporting all of them. 
 

You’re such a dumb uneducated china slut you don’t even know how much of a dumb uneducated china slut you are. 

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Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, Deluge said:

Absolutely. 

Just like selling land to the Chinese would make someone a "China Slut".

The truth is, the vast majority of democrats wish the Chinese (or some other foreign power) would just come in and completely take over. It's what America hating psychopaths wish for above all else. 

image.thumb.jpeg.e00d39bb614fcd2596311d813c1c64d1.jpeg

 

Trump the China slut

 

Forbes Estimates China Paid Trump At Least $5.4 Million Since He Took Office, Via Mysterious Trump Tower Lease

 

Donald Trump maintained a stake in Trump Tower when he became president, and with it, a financial connection to the Chinese government.

Dan AlexanderOct 23, 2020,

President Donald Trump, who declared “I don’t make money from China” in Thursday night’s presidential debate, has in fact collected millions of dollars from government-owned entities in China since he took office. Forbes estimates that at least $5.4 million has flowed into the president’s business from a lease agreement involving a state-owned bank in Trump Tower.

The Industrial and Commercial Bank of China signed a lease for space in 2008, years before the president took office, paying about $1.9 million in annual rent. Trump is well-aware of the deal. “I’ll show you the Industrial Bank of China,” he told three Forbes journalists touring Trump Tower in 2015. “I have the best tenants in the world in this building.”

Trump moved from the skyscraper to the White House in 2017, but he held onto ownership of the retail and office space in the building, through his 100% interest in an entity called Trump Tower Commercial LLC. That put him in an unusual position, given that government-owned entities in China hold at least 70% of the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China. Suddenly, a routine real estate deal became a conduit for a foreign superpower to pay the president of the United States.

….

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2020/10/23/forbes-estimates-china-paid-trump-at-least-54-million-since-he-took-office-via-mysterious-trump-tower-lease/

 

 

China Paid Trump Millions In Rent. Then He Left The White House

Dan AlexanderApr 10, 2023,
 

During the four years that Donald Trump occupied the White House, the state-owned Industrial and Commercial Bank of China paid him an estimated $7 million to rent space in Trump Tower. Despite the extraordinary circumstances of the deal—involving the government of China, the president of the United States, and millions of dollars—the Trump family portrayed the agreement as a standard business transaction. Previously unreported documents call that characterization into question.

Lending records show that that the Chinese bank abandoned Trump Tower around the time Trump left the White House. The bank’s departure seemed to come suddenly, in the first half of 2021 and less than two years after the bank exercised what Eric Trump, the former president’s son, described as a five-year extension. It’s hard to consider either of those developments—the lease extension or the sudden departure—without wondering whether China was trying to curry favor.
 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2023/04/10/china-paid-trump-millions-in-rent-then-he-left-the-white-house/
 

Donald Trump called Chinese leader Xi Jinping a 'brilliant man' and said there is no one in Hollywood with the good looks or brains to play him in a movie
 

 

Former President Donald Trump gushed about Chinese leader Xi Jinping in an interview on Fox News, calling him a "brilliant man" and praising his good looks.

During a sit-down interview on Tuesday night, Fox News host Tucker Carlson asked Trump how smart he thinks Xi is.

Trump replied: "Top of the line."

"President Xi is a brilliant man. If you went all over Hollywood to look for somebody to play the role of President Xi, you couldn't find it. There's nobody like that. The look, the brain, the whole thing," said Trump. 



 

 

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Posted
18 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

FACT:  Russia China North Korea and Iran are all allies and by extension so are Hamas, Houthis and Hezbollah. They all support each other economically and militarily. All of them are anti-woke. If you are supporting one of them you are supporting all of them. 
 

You’re such a dumb uneducated china slut you don’t even know how much of a dumb uneducated china slut you are. 

Must you people be so...simple? So...mono-dimentional? Think for a change!

"Keep your friends close...but your enemies closer."

Dear Gawd.

I'd ask your indulgence for a second, to please pay some heed to my plea?

Please stop letting stoopid folks become leaders?

Please?

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

Posted
26 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

You’re such a dumb uneducated china slut you don’t even know how much of a dumb uneducated china slut you are.

The buffoon adores Putin ("a genius") and Jong Un ("very honorable person"). In his own words.

If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant

Posted (edited)
22 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Must you people be so...simple? So...mono-dimentional? Think for a change!

"Keep your friends close...but your enemies closer."

Dear Gawd.

I'd ask your indulgence for a second, to please pay some heed to my plea?

Please stop letting stoopid folks become leaders?

Please?

OMG YOU ARE Hilarious! 
 

Do you really believe your own ridiculous made-up nonsense????

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Posted
11 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

OMG YOU ARE Hilarious! 
 

Do you really believe your own ridiculous made-up nonsense????

I believe that intellect is a virtue...especially when it comes to politics and diplomacy.

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I believe that intellect is a virtue...especially when it comes to politics and diplomacy.

Putin may have intellect but he has no virtue. Trump has neither intellect or virtue 

 

Your claim is that Putin’s open economic and military alliance China, Iran, North Korea and Hamas including selling Russia’s top fighter jet to Iran is because they’re enemies . That’s hilarious. That’s what you normally do with your enemies, right? Help them become even more rich and powerful and give them your most advanced weapons right?

With enemies like that who needs friends?

Meanwhile I will remind you that when the US negotiated the release of American prisoners  in exchange for US unfreezing some humanitarian aid, you screamed Biden was funding the west’s enemies and suggested that it was evidence that he was behind the Oct 7 attacks. But when Putin is ACTUALLY funding and arming Iran and openly supporting Hamas for no other purpose than to antagonize the west, suddenly you’re A-ok with it and think it’s great diplomacy  

What a joke. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Putin may have intellect but he has no virtue. Trump has neither intellect or virtue 

 

Your claim is that Putin’s open economic and military alliance China, Iran, North Korea and Hamas including selling Russia’s top fighter jet to Iran is because they’re enemies . That’s hilarious. That’s what you normally do with your enemies, right? Help them become even more rich and powerful and give them your most advanced weapons right?

With enemies like that who needs friends?

Meanwhile I will remind you that when the US negotiated the release of American prisoners  in exchange for US unfreezing some humanitarian aid, you screamed Biden was funding the west’s enemies and suggested that it was evidence that he was behind the Oct 7 attacks. But when Putin is ACTUALLY funding and arming Iran and openly supporting Hamas for no other purpose than to antagonize the west, suddenly you’re A-ok with it and think it’s great diplomacy  

What a joke. 

You truly are a short sighted blob.

3 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Your claim is that Putin’s open economic and military alliance China, Iran, North Korea and Hamas including selling Russia’s top fighter jet to Iran is because they’re enemies . That’s hilarious.

Yes it is.and what's even more hilarious is that I didn't say that. But ya...I'm not surprised that's what you think I said.

 

3 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Meanwhile I will remind you that when the US negotiated the release of American prisoners  in exchange for US unfreezing some humanitarian aid, you screamed Biden was funding the west’s enemies and suggested that it was evidence that he was behind the Oct 7 attacks. But when Putin is ACTUALLY funding and arming Iran and openly supporting Hamas for no other purpose than to antagonize the west, suddenly you’re A-ok with it and think it’s great diplomacy  

I said no such thing. Must you lie so often?

3 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

What a joke. 

The joke's on you Sweetums.

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

Posted
17 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

image.thumb.jpeg.e00d39bb614fcd2596311d813c1c64d1.jpeg

 

Trump the China slut

 

Forbes Estimates China Paid Trump At Least $5.4 Million Since He Took Office, Via Mysterious Trump Tower Lease

 

Donald Trump maintained a stake in Trump Tower when he became president, and with it, a financial connection to the Chinese government.

Dan AlexanderOct 23, 2020,

President Donald Trump, who declared “I don’t make money from China” in Thursday night’s presidential debate, has in fact collected millions of dollars from government-owned entities in China since he took office. Forbes estimates that at least $5.4 million has flowed into the president’s business from a lease agreement involving a state-owned bank in Trump Tower.

The Industrial and Commercial Bank of China signed a lease for space in 2008, years before the president took office, paying about $1.9 million in annual rent. Trump is well-aware of the deal. “I’ll show you the Industrial Bank of China,” he told three Forbes journalists touring Trump Tower in 2015. “I have the best tenants in the world in this building.”

Trump moved from the skyscraper to the White House in 2017, but he held onto ownership of the retail and office space in the building, through his 100% interest in an entity called Trump Tower Commercial LLC. That put him in an unusual position, given that government-owned entities in China hold at least 70% of the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China. Suddenly, a routine real estate deal became a conduit for a foreign superpower to pay the president of the United States.

….

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2020/10/23/forbes-estimates-china-paid-trump-at-least-54-million-since-he-took-office-via-mysterious-trump-tower-lease/

 

 

China Paid Trump Millions In Rent. Then He Left The White House

Dan AlexanderApr 10, 2023,
 

During the four years that Donald Trump occupied the White House, the state-owned Industrial and Commercial Bank of China paid him an estimated $7 million to rent space in Trump Tower. Despite the extraordinary circumstances of the deal—involving the government of China, the president of the United States, and millions of dollars—the Trump family portrayed the agreement as a standard business transaction. Previously unreported documents call that characterization into question.

Lending records show that that the Chinese bank abandoned Trump Tower around the time Trump left the White House. The bank’s departure seemed to come suddenly, in the first half of 2021 and less than two years after the bank exercised what Eric Trump, the former president’s son, described as a five-year extension. It’s hard to consider either of those developments—the lease extension or the sudden departure—without wondering whether China was trying to curry favor.
 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2023/04/10/china-paid-trump-millions-in-rent-then-he-left-the-white-house/
 

Donald Trump called Chinese leader Xi Jinping a 'brilliant man' and said there is no one in Hollywood with the good looks or brains to play him in a movie
 

 

 

Former President Donald Trump gushed about Chinese leader Xi Jinping in an interview on Fox News, calling him a "brilliant man" and praising his good looks.

During a sit-down interview on Tuesday night, Fox News host Tucker Carlson asked Trump how smart he thinks Xi is.

Trump replied: "Top of the line."

"President Xi is a brilliant man. If you went all over Hollywood to look for somebody to play the role of President Xi, you couldn't find it. There's nobody like that. The look, the brain, the whole thing," said Trump. 



 

 

There's a difference between doing business with the Chinese and selling our own land to them, stupid, or do you not understand the difference? lol

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Deluge said:

There's a difference between doing business with the Chinese and selling our own land to them, stupid, or do you not understand the difference? lol

If you sell something to them you take their money. If you hire them to make your products and steal American jobs they take YOUR money. Dumbass. 

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