CrazyCanuck89 Posted May 20 Report Share Posted May 20 I don't think you can! Social Conservatives tend to make laws based on religious dogma. It costs money to make laws. It costs money to enforce laws. It costs money to fight the constitutionality of laws. Take gay marriage. More people getting married means the economy grows. People are buying; suits, cakes, renting halls, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 Why not? Those exact people have destroyed the entire concept of conservatism by insisting it must be so. To the point of denigrating their own who were actual political conservatives. Just listen to the yap, how many times have they threatened to use the notwithstanding clause to impose socially conservative shit, despite the fact it wasn't put there for Ottawa to use and admits openly that any such act violates the existing Constitution? Now social conservatism has become a rallying cry for populist gut issues that only distract from the real political issues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted May 21 Report Share Posted May 21 These things are relative, independent of conservative and each other. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 On 5/20/2024 at 9:48 AM, CrazyCanuck89 said: It costs money to make laws. It costs money to enforce laws. So things like DEI quotas in the public service don't cost anyone any money? This is a pretty poor take. 2 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted May 22 Report Share Posted May 22 I assume this was a bit of a shitpost to get people worked up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCanuck89 Posted June 19 Author Report Share Posted June 19 On 5/22/2024 at 8:36 AM, Moonbox said: So things like DEI quotas in the public service don't cost anyone any money? This is a pretty poor take. We're talking about poorly made laws, based on religious dogma, that latter are found unconstitutional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 25 minutes ago, CrazyCanuck89 said: We're talking about poorly made laws, based on religious dogma, that latter are found unconstitutional. Well the Dei quotas he mentioned may feel religious but they are actually more woke than theological. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cougar Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 On 5/20/2024 at 6:48 AM, CrazyCanuck89 said: I don't think you can! Social Conservatives tend to make laws based on religious dogma. It costs money to make laws. It costs money to enforce laws. It costs money to fight the constitutionality of laws. Take gay marriage. More people getting married means the economy grows. People are buying; suits, cakes, renting halls, etc. I have zero idea what you are trying to say with your post. I doubt you do either. The funny thing is you get a few equally confused individuals post replies to the above. Amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 9 hours ago, cougar said: The funny thing is you get a few equally confused individuals post replies to the above. Amazing! Uhhh..... you just replied to the above. I think you might be confused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbox Posted June 19 Report Share Posted June 19 14 hours ago, CrazyCanuck89 said: We're talking about poorly made laws, based on religious dogma, that latter are found unconstitutional. That might be the narrow definition you take, but the overall sentiment cuts both ways. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 Fun read! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 (edited) On 5/20/2024 at 6:48 AM, CrazyCanuck89 said: Social Conservatives tend to make laws based on religious dogma. Judeo-Christianity has made western society more civilized and humane over the centuries than the rest of the world. Do you seriously believe places like the middle east, Africa, Asia, etc. have better values than western countries which are based on Judeo-Christian principles and laws? Even Communist countries like China, N. Korea, and Russia do not have the same human rights protections that western democratic countries have. I wonder why that is. Christianity defends human rights and is one of the reasons human rights exist in the west. They believe in the sanctity of human life, which has lately been rejected by many in favour of an individual's right to choose regardless of the harm it does to human life. We are talking about laws respecting property rights, laws against murder, stealing, marriage and divorce. Laws that respect human rights and oppose discrimination based on religious beliefs as in Iran and Afghanistan where women are badly treated. The reason you are opposed to Christianity having any say in the political system is because you are deceived. " You may wonder, “Why would people oppose Christians? Christians care about and help their neighbors. They are good workers on the job. They are good citizens. Why is there such intense opposition toward Christianity and Christians?” The answer is that there is an evil spiritual being, the devil, who is at work in the world to oppose God and His Messiah, the Lord Jesus Christ. As Paul later explained to this Ephesian Church, “Our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places”(Eph. 6:12)." Lesson 49: Why People Oppose the Gospel (Acts 19:21-41) | Bible.org Edited June 24 by blackbird 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 8 hours ago, blackbird said: Judeo-Christianity has made western society more civilized and humane over the centuries than the rest of the world. Do you think that this morality prevailed for other reasons than their economic and embedded technological/military superiority really? I don't think so. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Do you think that this morality prevailed for other reasons than their economic and embedded technological/military superiority really? I don't think so. The reason why missionaries went out to the jungles of the world to take the gospel to the aboriginals had nothing to to with economics or technological/military superiority. They believed that sharing the gospel with the rest of the world was their duty or higher calling. That is what Jesus told his followers to do: "15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." Mark 16:15-16 KJV Colonization by people in general and rulers is how the whole world was settled. Settlers also brought many advances to backward countries and regions. Some people believed they were called by God to take the gospel to backward parts of the world. In some places aboriginals were considered savages because they practiced cannibalism and other uncivilized things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted June 24 Report Share Posted June 24 9 minutes ago, blackbird said: The reason why missionaries went out to the jungles of the world to take the gospel to the aboriginals had nothing to to with economics or technological/military superiority. They believed that sharing the gospel with the rest of the world was their duty or higher calling. That is what Jesus told his followers to do: "15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." Mark 16:15-16 KJV Colonization by people in general and rulers is how the whole world was settled. Settlers also brought many advances to backward countries and regions. Some people believed they were called by God to take the gospel to backward parts of the world. In some places aboriginals were considered savages because they practiced cannibalism and other uncivilized things. I'm glad you at least *mentioned* colonization. You seem to think I'm saying it was a 'bad' thing but I'm not. I'm just saying that without technologies, the missionaries would have been as effective as a folk singer at a TED talk. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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