Canada Discriminates On The Basis of Race

[I am Groot]

On 5/13/2024 at 3:46 PM, Moonbox said:

I don't think you did.  I know you did.  I clicked your link and read it.  It didn't even remotely say what you claim it did. 

I "did my own research", and it made you look like a clown who reposts links he hasn't even read.  🙃

I don't understand this dispute. I clicked on the two links which brought me to the postings involved and both clearly state that the application process is only open to equity groups. It is not dishonest to then say it isn't open to white men. They're the only group not listed as an equity deserving group.

[I am Groot]

I figure I might as well post this here since it bears on the whole DEI antiracism bullshit currently a requirement of seemingly every federal government policy, decision, initiative or program now. You thought all this stuff could be held to the universities? No, it moved down into the K-12 school system, with kids being taught they're oppressors or oppressed. But the DEI fanatics don't want to leave any possible stone unturned. Now, with the aid of the federal government's new daycare system, they want to make daycare centres 'antiracist'. How do you do this? Why, by subjecting all staff to reeducation programs that would have pleased any apparatchik in Mao's cultural revolution.

In March, the Ontario Coalition for Better Child Care held a national webinar on “Creating an Anti-Racist Child Care System in Canada,” which highlighted its three-year project, funded by the federal government, on how to make childcare “anti-racist.”

The organization advocates, among other things, “mandatory anti-racism training as part of membership in the College of ECE.” Another recommendation is to have education programs for childcare workers that “demonstrate a commitment” to decolonization and include “a mandatory course on anti-racist pedagogy” and course materials from Black, Indigenous and racialized theorists.

The activists also make recommendations to childcare operators, such as “ongoing anti-racism, inclusion and equity training” for staff, “ongoing training and coaching to develop and implement anti-racist, inclusive pedagogy” and creating an “advisory committee that includes Black, Indigenous and racialized community members.”

 

Activists look to turn daycares into woke indoctrination camps | National Post

[Zeitgeist]

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

I figure I might as well post this here since it bears on the whole DEI antiracism bullshit currently a requirement of seemingly every federal government policy, decision, initiative or program now. You thought all this stuff could be held to the universities? No, it moved down into the K-12 school system, with kids being taught they're oppressors or oppressed. But the DEI fanatics don't want to leave any possible stone unturned. Now, with the aid of the federal government's new daycare system, they want to make daycare centres 'antiracist'. How do you do this? Why, by subjecting all staff to reeducation programs that would have pleased any apparatchik in Mao's cultural revolution.

In March, the Ontario Coalition for Better Child Care held a national webinar on “Creating an Anti-Racist Child Care System in Canada,” which highlighted its three-year project, funded by the federal government, on how to make childcare “anti-racist.”

The organization advocates, among other things, “mandatory anti-racism training as part of membership in the College of ECE.” Another recommendation is to have education programs for childcare workers that “demonstrate a commitment” to decolonization and include “a mandatory course on anti-racist pedagogy” and course materials from Black, Indigenous and racialized theorists.

The activists also make recommendations to childcare operators, such as “ongoing anti-racism, inclusion and equity training” for staff, “ongoing training and coaching to develop and implement anti-racist, inclusive pedagogy” and creating an “advisory committee that includes Black, Indigenous and racialized community members.”

 

Activists look to turn daycares into woke indoctrination camps | National Post

Canada is in serious trouble.  The radical left cultural revolution is doing scorched earth through our entire public and private sectors.  I don’t even think Poilievre can real it in.  I hope my kids can get out of Canada.  

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

Canada is in serious trouble.  The radical left cultural revolution is doing scorched earth through our entire public and private sectors.  I don’t even think Poilievre can real it in.  I hope my kids can get out of Canada.  

to where? that fight is global now.  All of europe and even the us is having that culture war. 

[Michael Hardner]

Is a radical someone who misrepresents the truth or exaggerates?

Because I find it hard to sift through and separate real complaints from hysterics.

Ex: kids being taught they're oppressors.

There are real concerns at the heart of these complaints, but I don't have to waste my posts on threads that are hysterical/exaggerated.

Not do I have to spend my time re-investigating claims already disproven.

But enjoy your cry.

[herbie]

7 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Canada won’t have top researchers or strong universities because of these stupid hiring practices.

Please state your qualifications to decide on university hiring practices.
Or how someone's skin colour or sexual orientation change their qualifications.

[CdnFox]

Just now, Michael Hardner said:

Is a radical someone who misrepresents the truth or exaggerates?

No. Thats just a politician. 

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Because I find it hard to sift through and separate real complaints from hysterics.

Do you though?

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Ex: kids being taught they're oppressors.

There are real concerns at the heart of these complaints, but I don't have to waste my posts on threads that are hysterical/exaggerated.

Not do I have to spend my time re-investigating claims already disproven.

 

What it sounds like you're saying is that you don't actually believe that there are concerns because if you did you would simply raise the concerns on those threats, but rather you don't like views being shared that don't correspond to your own views and those you feel are hysterical.

Which simply makes you intolerant and slightly bigoted.

Here's a thought, if somebody is posting something that you feel is over the top or exaggerated then why not have a real discussion about the issues that you feel aren't exaggerated? These supposed real problems you mentioned and yet I've never seen you actually start a thread on.

 

I mean, wouldn't you agree that The Logical choice if you disagree with the subjects being posted would be to post one of your own that you do agree with and feel is worth discussing? Sounds like you're just posturing again Mike

[I am Groot]

50 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I mean, wouldn't you agree that The Logical choice if you disagree with the subjects being posted would be to post one of your own that you do agree with and feel is worth discussing? Sounds like you're just posturing again Mike

We know that Michael does this from time to time when he doesn't like what's being said but prefers to disparage rather than challenge it, all while saying it's beneath him to talk of such things.

[I am Groot]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Is a radical someone who misrepresents the truth or exaggerates?

I would say someone who states no research by white people on the subject of DEI is worth reading or listening to would be described as a radical. I would also say that if school board trustees call those politely challenging school board secrecy to ask for the details of the antiracism curriculum being given to kids hateful, that would constitute being a radical. And if the director of education of that school board weeps just because the motion was put by two other trustees to open up such information (before the trustees were thrown out) he, she, or it, is probably a radical too,

So should such people be in charge of children's education in Ontario?

https://c2cjournal.ca/2022/07/parental-pushback-the-fight-against-critical-race-theory-at-an-ontario-school-board/

 

I would also say that if white kids are being taught they're bad because they're white, then those teaching this are also radicals.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/neil-gonsalves-first-person-biracial-children-1.6867493

Edited May 15, 2024 by I am Groot

[Dougie93]

2 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Canada is in serious trouble.  The radical left cultural revolution is doing scorched earth through our entire public and private sectors.  I don’t even think Poilievre can real it in.  I hope my kids can get out of Canada.  

strapped to the mast, doomed to go down with the ship

for the love of a woman

Victoria, Queen & Empress

Pro Patria

[taxme]

On 5/13/2024 at 9:32 AM, Michael Hardner said:

White men also benefit from DEI, in terms of hiring preferences... it happens.

In what way? 

[taxme]

On 5/13/2024 at 6:07 AM, Zeitgeist said:

Haven’t we seen enough of the racist hiring policies in Canada caused by the Liberal government of Canada?  It’s time for class action lawsuits and challenges at the Supreme Court, as highly qualified white people, many of them at the top of their field, are excluded from applying to jobs on the basis of race, something they have no control over.

Canada has become a disgusting, racist country under the Trudeau Liberals:

“Jamie Sarkonak: No off-ramp to diversity quotas, federal research executive says

There is no plan to end discriminatory hiring requirements for quota-bound research program — even as targets are met, Commons hears. (…) For example, the current opening for a Canada Research Chair in physics (specifically, quantum sensing) at the University of New Brunswick, which has been vacant for one whole year, will not accept applications from white men. Similarly, white people can’t apply toDalhousie’s opening for a chair in industrial engineering. Many more such cases exist. These clearly amount to discrimination, as people are being denied tremendous opportunities simply due to their immutable characteristics.“

 

I remember several years ago when the Richmond Fire Department in Richmond, BC  were denying the white firemen to be able to take exams to qualify for promotion and the hiring of white people. Canada has truly become an anti-white country ever since the Marxist Trudeau family came into existence. Racism does exist in Canada and it is against the white folk.  Enough already, this needs to end now. 

[Zeitgeist]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Is a radical someone who misrepresents the truth or exaggerates?

Because I find it hard to sift through and separate real complaints from hysterics.

Ex: kids being taught they're oppressors.

There are real concerns at the heart of these complaints, but I don't have to waste my posts on threads that are hysterical/exaggerated.

Not do I have to spend my time re-investigating claims already disproven.

But enjoy your cry.

You refuse to acknowledge reality.  Don’t get me wrong, you’re always polite.  I think it’s because you’re not experiencing the daily workplace messaging about systemic racism and white supremacy.  It’s like a shouting 20 year old Maoist cultural revolutionary droning through a loudspeaker.  Opinion is treated as truth.  Conclusions are drawn without evidence.  If I left the workplace even 4 years ago I would’ve missed most of this.  I have many colleagues who are petrified of being hauled up in front of the Human Rights Commission. 

Edited May 15, 2024 by Zeitgeist

[Goddess]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Ex: kids being taught they're oppressors.

This was about 4(?) years ago just before covid, but I have a friend who actually went to the school/high school boards his kids were attending and complained about this.

He felt that his kids being constantly told they are trash because they are white colonizers was really affecting their mental health, especially his 16 year old daughter.

His point was that his kids had not done anything to anyone else and he was raising them to be respectful and welcoming to others and was sick of them being told they were garbage.

[Dougie93]

27 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

You refuse to acknowledge reality.  Don’t get me wrong, you’re always polite. 

count your blessings

in that Michael Hardner is a Loyalist to the British Crown in North America

and a British Unitarian whom acknowledges that Jesus of Nazareth is the Savior, even if not a supernatural being

in this day & age, that makes him indispensable

 

 

[Zeitgeist]

4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

count your blessings

in that Michael Hardner is a Loyalist to the British Crown in North America

and a British Unitarian whom acknowledges that Jesus of Nazareth is the Savior, even if not a supernatural being

in this day & age, that makes him indispensable

 

 

Yes but he’s wearing rose coloured glasses.  I get it, it’s easier to bury your head in the sand.  

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:

Yes but he’s wearing rose coloured glasses.  I get it, it’s easier to bury your head in the sand.  

we need every swinging dick in the field

so long as he is willing to go over the top when the whistle blows, for God, King & Country

all is forgiven

[Zeitgeist]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

we need every swinging dick in the field

so long as he is willing to go over the top when the whistle blows, for God, King & Country

all is forgiven

Remains to be seen.  

[Dougie93]

4 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Remains to be seen.  

even the Nazarene was filled with doubt & fear

even the Nazarene cried out when nailed to the cross

even the Nazarene was tempted in the end

love thine enemies

[Goddess]

21 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

we need every swinging dick in the field

"See you on the beach."

[Dougie93]

Just now, Goddess said:

"See you on the beach."

Ducimus

[I am Groot]

DEI started in the US as a proposed solution to the idea that after multiple generations of racism blacks didn't have the generational wealth and background to pull equal with whites. One can argue about the logic of that, and especially whether it should still be going on 50 years later. But at least they had a reason.

In Canada, DEI was launched because... the Americans were doing it. There were no other justifications for it. Canada had no large visible minority group that was behind white people due to racism with the exception of natives. There were almost no non-whites in Canada except for natives prior to Mulroney's huge expansion of immigration numbers in the 1980s (because he was told by his immigration minister they would vote Tory). 

Even today more than 80% (and growing) of visible minorities are first-generation immigrants. Most of the rest are their kids. Only about 1% of visible minority members are third-generation or more.

[Zeitgeist]

4 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

DEI started in the US as a proposed solution to the idea that after multiple generations of racism blacks didn't have the generational wealth and background to pull equal with whites. One can argue about the logic of that, and especially whether it should still be going on 50 years later. But at least they had a reason.

In Canada, DEI was launched because... the Americans were doing it. There were no other justifications for it. Canada had no large visible minority group that was behind white people due to racism with the exception of natives. There were almost no non-whites in Canada except for natives prior to Mulroney's huge expansion of immigration numbers in the 1980s (because he was told by his immigration minister they would vote Tory). 

Even today more than 80% (and growing) of visible minorities are first-generation immigrants. Most of the rest are their kids. Only about 1% of visible minority members are third-generation or more.

This is the point: There are many reasons why more white people occupy more positions of authority proportionally as compared to the makeup of society than people of colour that have nothing to do with racism, the main one being that when many of these people at the top today started out in their careers, there were far fewer people from visible minorities, far fewer.

When many of these immigrants came to Canada, many of them had to learn an official language proficiently and adjust to the way of life, get their qualifications recertified for Canada, and so on.  Canada has only been this multicultural since the late nineties, but even then it was nothing like today.

Disproportionalities don’t automatically equate to systemic racism, and anyone who says they do is being dishonest.  The problems of cultural adjustment are universal for anyone travelling to another country, albeit some countries are more accepting than others or easier to access.  Canada is one of the most accepting.

The notion that white people carry some special privilege is nonsense.  People have no reason to feel ashamed or guilty or like they owe someone something just on the basis of their skin colour.

Indigenous were just as atrocious as the colonists.

Race and other shallow identity markers have no place in hiring or admissions.

Never answer surveys on race, sexual orientation and identity, etc., because the data is being used to discriminate against people.

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:

This is the point: There are many reasons why more white people occupy more positions of authority proportionally as compared to the makeup of society than people of colour that have nothing to do with racism, the main one being that when many of these people at the top today started out in their careers, there were far fewer people from visible minorities, far fewer.

at this point, most of the whites in Canada are Communist traitors and/or useful !diots for

let the devout Christians from the West Indies & Africa come and save me from the white Canadians

 

[Michael Hardner]

5 hours ago, I am Groot said:

I would also say that if white kids are being taught they're bad because they're white, 

You're lying and you know it.  I posted already that the curriculum explicitly prohibits doing thus.

You play with the idea of being serious poster, but never quite get there.  Back to ignore, sorry.