Leader of the Opposition shut out of the so called "Question period"

[myata]

How's there's no interest? Is it indicative of the true state of this imitation democracy: nobody could care?

Some robed circus actors change and set the rules for their hand-run circus show, just because they can with no pretense of impartiality or shyness: like why? Who would care? Who still wouldn't know it for what it is?

The state of democracy is sad and dismal in the country. A facade arrangement with no independent checks and controls has coasted for some decades producing failures and f@ckups with predictable regularity. But these days looks like it's at the end of the run. There's nothing more it can give to the society. It can and will care only about itself.

[WestCanMan]

I'm surprised that the CBC hasn't started calling the speaker St. Fergus.

[Aristides]

Parliamentary behaviour sometimes makes a schoolyard full of ten year olds look like adults. 

[ExFlyer]

If he got kicked out, he got kicked out.

[myata]

That's a good one. On a democracy"".

[herbie]

He could've withdrawn the comment. He didn't so he could enforce the same BS as 'the swamp', 'mockery of democracy', 'system doesn't work needs to be demolished" populist attitude that plays to the populist base. Playing to their why should I be punished because I won't follow the rules attitude and their overall ignorance of how things work.

The fool is becoming more and more imitative of that oaf Down South.

[myata]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

He could've withdrawn the comment.

One could have submitted to a dictator. What kind of an argument is that, in a (presumably) democracy?

[Guest]

4 hours ago, herbie said:

He could've withdrawn the comment.

Am glad he didn't. 

He won himself millions of more fans by doubling down.

Plus the shock of it, got millions of eyes on Trudeau's failing policies, that warranted the level of seriousness that Poilievre was reflecting. 

Its a joke. 

[eyeball]

35 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

He won himself millions of more fans by doubling down.

If he ever says Fu ck Trudeau they'll all have an orgasm.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

If he ever says Fu ck Trudeau they'll all have an orgasm.

Especially all the ones that the ndp and libs have bled to the cpc.  The kids mostly who were sick of seeing their future pissed away by the justin-jagg leftist posturing.

I'm sure they'd have said that 'wacko was far too generous for the programs that have robbed them of their future

And who could blame them?

As far as the house goes - when asked justin says that it's not him that's made the house hostile, it's all the radical people in the world and ALL poltiicans have to behave better. He didn't create the hostile atmosphere you see

The guy who called a minister a piece of shit. Who told another to f*ck off. Who said that the (jewish) member of the conservatives was a nazi for supporting the truckers.  The guy who went on national television and called all vax hesitant people  'bigots' and 'misogynists' and 'wastes of space' and we'll have to decide if we're going to tolerate them".

Yeah. That guy. He's not the one who's created such a toxic air.  Not according to him.

And that's before we even get to his clown show. 

you elected the guys who've lowered the bar,  you can't really whine that we're all  playing limbo now.

[Aristides]

6 hours ago, myata said:

One could have submitted to a dictator. What kind of an argument is that, in a (presumably) democracy?

Parliament has rules, one of them is no personal insults. They apply to everyone and they won’t change even if PP becomes PM.

I know it has become an out of fashion concept put there are still places where you are accountable for what you say.

Edited May 6, 2024 by Aristides

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

Parliament has rules, one of them is no personal insults. They apply to everyone and they won’t change even if PP becomes PM.

I know it has become an out of fashion concept put there are still places where you are accountable for what you say.

So the next day when a liberal MP called polievre a 'child'...  why weren't they asked to retract or get kicked out?

When Trudeau said the jewish conserviatve MP sides with nazis... wasn't kicked out because......

Seems like these really aren't the places where you're accountable....  if you're a liberal.

[Guest]

7 hours ago, eyeball said:

If he ever says Fu ck Trudeau they'll all have an orgasm.

Wiser to say let's go Brandon.

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Aristides said:

Parliament has rules, one of them is no personal insults.

He took a hit that won't do him any harm. If anything, it gets millions of more eyes on his side.

The wording was inappropriate,  but the policies he was highlighting, are irresponsible.

In my opinion I look at the optics. He is fighting for the common folk, so what he did with those optics, is take the fight to Trudeau, and refuse to back down right after Trudeau called him a spineless leader (so much for no personal insults).

He had to double down!

[Guest]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

When Trudeau said the jewish conserviatve MP sides with nazis... wasn't kicked out because......

This plays into Poilievre, as it clearly exposes the bias of the house speaker. 

This make Polievre look bad, but makes the house speaker's impartial obligation look questionable, and being eyes to Trudeau's policies, which actually warrant worse language. 

[myata]

6 hours ago, Aristides said:

Parliament has rules, one of them is no personal insults. They apply to everyone and they won’t change even if PP becomes P

This is bullshit. Let's not repeat obvious bullshit. If the ones who were supposed to oversee "the rules" have no independent ground nor even a pretense of impartiality but on the other hand: have both hands firmly and squarely in the honeypot, one couldn't pretend to believe that it's all about some "Parliament" and the "rules".

This would be just plain and sad, bullshit. The reality speaks, no words needed.

[herbie]

21 hours ago, myata said:

One could have submitted to a dictator. What kind of an argument is that, in a (presumably) democracy?

He was asked to by the Speaker - so now you accuse the Speaker of being a dictator? Following rules is a dictatorship? What kind of chaotic concept are you touting as your vision of democracy?
I don't think you know what democracies and dictatorships even are!

[myata]

12 minutes ago, herbie said:

He was asked to by the Speaker - so now you accuse the Speaker of being a dictator? Following rules is a dictatorship? What kind of chaotic concept are you touting as your vision of democracy?

Just read again and think: a partisan Actor (name the role as you like) can make rules for you; control what you can say and decide is it allowed or not. He can kick you out with a single strike of a pen and there's no oversight or impartial controls over his decisions.

In a presumably (wink-wink) "Parliament". Only a good manager running (so called) "representatives". Herding them for better productivity. Reminds of something, already?

Question: is this a comedy, a kind of parody, or what? Like, how else could one interpret these events?

[herbie]

Oh FFS the guy can come back the next day and you equate it with Putin's tossing opponents out 5th floor windows....

[Nefarious Banana]

38 minutes ago, herbie said:

He was asked to by the Speaker - so now you accuse the Speaker of being a dictator? Following rules is a dictatorship? What kind of chaotic concept are you touting as your vision of democracy?
I don't think you know what democracies and dictatorships even are!

Opposition Leader Pierre Poilievre  knew what he was doing . . . bringing public attention to the 'wacko' policies of the 'wacko' PM and his band of hand picked monkeys . . .  job well done PP !

[PIK]

48 minutes ago, herbie said:

He was asked to by the Speaker - so now you accuse the Speaker of being a dictator? Following rules is a dictatorship? What kind of chaotic concept are you touting as your vision of democracy?
I don't think you know what democracies and dictatorships even are!

He is,after what he did to Rachel Thomas.