taxme Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 On 2/26/2024 at 2:22 PM, West said: https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/canada-s-long-awaited-online-harms-bill-is-coming-here-s-what-we-know-1.6781605 This is being introduced today. Free speech vs curtailed speech debate. What constitutes as "hate speech"? After doing alot of reading of posts on X specifically related to sexual assault, I can see the benefit of such a bill so long as it's restrained This Online Harms Bill is only meant to go after anyone that the Marxist dictator in Ottawa does not like. Being a conservative with another different opinion to the dictator, could land you in jail for life because we conservatives do not hold the same ideas as the dictator does. WTF? Most people who commit worse crimes than expressing an opinion do not get life in prison. The pedophiles will never see life in prison for what they do to their little innocent victim children. This is just more added Marxism to the mix for Canada and Canadians. Well, pizz the dictator off, and he could freeze your credit or bank accounts. No one can tell me today that Canada is not well on that also attacked freedom of speech. I can pretty much guarantee that the dictator in Ottawa will be soon looking at getting rid of website forums like this one where we will only be allowed to talk about the weather or moms cooking. Don't think so/ We shall wait and see. 😷 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxme Posted March 24 Report Share Posted March 24 On 2/26/2024 at 9:48 PM, OftenWrong said: Thought I read it was up to LIFE imprisonment. Yep. New Liberal 'online harms' bill to make online hate punishable up to life in prison Never mind being worried about age verification for online porn. If this shit passes, some of you people better cut and run... Which one among us here will be the first to end up going to jail for life for daring to express an opinion? It is hard to believe that this could be going on in Canada today. Canada is well on it's way to becoming another communist like country. This Online Harms Bill is all and only about censorship and nothing more. 👎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Groot Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 (edited) On 3/24/2024 at 5:34 PM, Michael Hardner said: The person doesn't introduce themselves and, pretty early on, says in my view.... But who are they? She does introduce herself at some point as a lawyer with the Canadian Constitution Foundation. Edited March 25 by I am Groot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 (edited) 34 minutes ago, I am Groot said: She does introduce herself at some point as a lawyer with the Canadian Constitution Foundation. I just looked them up. They're a political action group. You can tell from the graphics and such that they're trying to sell you something. Information is all I want. I'm not looking to be convinced. Edited March 25 by Michael Hardner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted March 26 Report Share Posted March 26 "The Online Harms Act threatens freedom of expression in Canada. Our team of lawyers is preparing to submit a comprehensive report on the negative impacts of the Online Harms Act to Parliament. Our team will also be preparing a constitutional challenge to at least some parts of the Act unless Parliament heeds our advice and makes significant changes. The Justice Centre stands ready to provide legal representation to Canadians whose freedom of expression is violated by this Act." Home | Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms (jccf.ca) If you believe in defending your freedom of expression, you should sign the online petition at the link and if possible send a donation to them of any amount. You could be ordered to pay $50,000 plus up to $20,000 to a "victim" who felt offended or hurt by what you said. This $70,000 maximum does not include any legal costs you may incur to defend yourself. The complainant, however, is under no such risk. The Justice Centre is worth supporting to fight this bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 Stop the “Online Harms Bill”, which would mark the end of religious rights and other freedoms of expression in Canada: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-religion-online-harms-bill/#:~:text=Globe and Mail-,MPs%2C Jewish groups seek to end religious hate-speech,defence in online harms bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 29 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Stop the “Online Harms Bill”, which would mark the end of religious rights and other freedoms of expression in Canada: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-religion-online-harms-bill/#:~:text=Globe and Mail-,MPs%2C Jewish groups seek to end religious hate-speech,defence in online harms bill I don't think you understand what you're quoting. People are calling for religious freedom to be cut back, by removing religious freedom from the existing bill.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: I don't think you understand what you're quoting. People are calling for religious freedom to be cut back, by removing religious freedom from the existing bill.. That’s exactly what I’m referencing. It’s exactly why we should be alarmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted March 29 Report Share Posted March 29 2 hours ago, Zeitgeist said: That’s exactly what I’m referencing. It’s exactly why we should be alarmed. Well I agree that there's cause for concern over the proposed changes but... That's not in the bill for now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted April 6 Report Share Posted April 6 (edited) Scotland's new hate crime law is overwhelming the police services with thousands of complaints of hate crimes. quote Oh dear. As the furore around Scotland’s Hate Crime Act extends into its sixth day, there are now fears about police spending as the force looks set to struggle with the sheer volume of complaints. The Scottish Police Federation has said that, since the Act was implemented on Monday, 40 officers a day have been required to work overtime to help tackle reports. With officers being paid time and a third for working extra hours, there are concerns about overstretching the Police Scotland budget. What a mess… Over 3,000 hate crime complaints were submitted in the first 24 hours of the Act and the Scottish Tories have predicted that at this rate, over 1 million reports could be made in the first year of the new law – though Mr S rather doubts the rate of complaints will continue at the same pace. A major issue with the new law is that while Police Scotland said last month that it would not investigate certain minor crimes any longer, the force is having to look at every single report made under Humza Yousaf’s Hate Crime Act. Police training has been rather disorganised, prompting fears that an already overstretched and under-resourced force will reach ‘breaking point’, in the words of SPF general secretary David Kennedy, who warned that the new law ‘has just piled on the pressure’. The Scottish government has so far continued to support the controversial new law, while other parties have made some subtle u-turns. Though she voted in favour of it initially, Alba’s Ash Regan is now calling for the law to be repealed while Labour’s Anas Sarwar says he would amend the Act if he was first minister. Will Yousaf now concede that his hate law has thrown the country into chaos? Don’t count on it… unquote Scotland’s police at ‘breaking point’ over new hate law | The Spectator Edited April 6 by blackbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted April 6 Report Share Posted April 6 2 hours ago, blackbird said: Scotland's new hate crime law is overwhelming the police services with thousands of complaints of hate crimes. Probably conservatives - exercising some sort of denial of service attack against the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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