People in BC no longer British Columbians...as first Nations find it offensive...

[eyeball]

8 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

If we must change the name, "Salish" would be appropriate since that was the dominant linguistic demographic for most of the south at least. 

What's the indigenous name for Earth I wonder?

[herbie]

Earth.

There is no single Indigenous language, so that's the only name every single Indigenous person knows.

 Lotusland
Gold Mountain
Rinse Poopert
Bill's Puddle
New Dhelta
Foreskin James
Tofu-No
Hooterville

Plenty of local nicknames, but none for the whole thing....

(got a spam call claiming to be Amazon, but the call display came from "mount Waddington"... about as middle of nowhere as one could possibly get let alone have a telephone exchange)

 

[eyeball]

I ran the idea of Earth by a hereditary chief I know but got a little ahead of myself and mentioned then everyone could say they're from the same place. That took him aback a little and I said I get it, King Chuck would probably feel much the same way.

[Guest]

On 3/9/2024 at 11:13 PM, herbie said:

Rinse Poopert

Perfect name for a proctologist. 

[Dougie93]

On 2/26/2024 at 12:38 AM, cougar said:

I have always wondered where this "British Columbia" came from.

Columbia is a country in South America.   How it got its name "Columbia", I also do not know and do not care all that much.

But how did part of Canada ended up being called Columbia ? 

Is it from the Columbia river, which was called Columbia by some explorer with very poor imagination?

The Columbia river probably has an indigenous name, which if it reverts to, we may have to change the name of the province too.

American Captain Robert Gray named the river after his ship the "Columbia", in 1792

"British Columbia" was to distinguish between the American Columbia and the British Columbia

the Pacific Northwest Coast Indians all called it "The Big River"

so they weren't particularly imaginary after all

[paradox34]

Personally I find the "First Nations" moniker not only offensive but laughable. Despite what "natives" would have us believe they did not spring from the ground like the rocks and tree's but immigrated here like everyone else. Call them "First Immigrants". Nation? A loose confederation of peoples with no common language, in most cases no written language, no anthropological achievement beyond existence whose "cultures" stagnated at a stone age level is not a "nation".  I'm sick of governments pandering to the whining's of people saying we "stole" their land. Firstly, nothing was stolen. The monies paid to "native" groups over the years has bought this country 10x over. Second, the land wasn't theirs to begin with! Except for small area's  there is no proof of residency. No, a yearly fishing or hunting trip to a particular area doesn't convey ownership. If it did my family should claim much of Northern Ontario and the Florida keys not to mention the travel corridors used! Except for small area's they can't demonstrate stewardship, the land was not cared for, improved, worked: it lay fallow. Finally, not to put too fine a point on it, but they were unable to defend a claim of ownership. The whole thing reeks of sour grapes. Now seeing the wealth available from the land various tribes are lining up to scream "mine". Why the courts humor these claims is disgusting. I might be able to entertain "native" land claims if they paid taxes like everyone else but no, they want autonomy. Last time I checked autonomy implies, self government and sufficiency. So why are we paying for everything? Why are native social issues our problem? It's time the government started treating "native" groups like the spoiled children they behave as!

[Aristides]

On 3/3/2024 at 7:56 AM, Perspektiv said:

Might as well change Canada's name, to its original Iroquois spelling of Kanata while you're at it.

Leave it to the woke, and we will be stripped of everything this country stands for, which is conveniently offensive.

Did the Iroquois use our alphabet?

Edited April 22, 2024 by Aristides

[herbie]

On 4/17/2024 at 9:27 PM, paradox34 said:

Personally I find the "First Nations" moniker not only offensive but laughable

Spoken like a true "colonist". And exactly defined as such the more one reads your post. Exact, down to the detail description of pure colonial thinking.

[herbie]

BTW where's the outrage in the forum that they just "gave away" Haida Gwaii to the natives?
Guess Fox News missed that so none of you knew....

[paradox34]

You do realize that the "First Immigrants" entire argument is the ultimate colonist credo... "We were here first".

It's the same tired excuse used by the francophones in Quebec. We were here first, they weren't, so everyone should speak French!

[herbie]

Describing it as an "excuse' only furthers my point. Digging yourself in deeper doesn't further yours.

[Guest]

On 4/18/2024 at 12:27 AM, paradox34 said:

It's time the government started treating "native" groups like the spoiled children they behave as!

When you give out nothing but handouts, you create a dependency. Then an entitlement. 

We are at the point of being far beyond the entitlement. It's arrogance at this point.

A lot of the issues that plague these communities are self-inflicted, but nobody has the balls to publicly call it out.

It would be as socially suicidal as to say words like "biological female".

[blackbird]

The idea of calling natives "First Nations" is a kind of racist ideology to begin with.

Designating one particular ethnic group as "First Nations" is pandering to their ethnicity and is saying they are somehow superior to everyone else or/and deserve special privileges that nobody else should receive.  This could be divisive and has endless consequences.  It certainly seems to go against the ideology of the woke left which claims everyone should be equal.  I recall the DEI, diversity, equity, inclusion claims the objective is to treat everyone equally.  Well, the name "First Nations" certainly doesn't do that.  It is exactly the opposite. 

Just curious but who started calling them First Nations?  Was it the aboriginals themselves demanding it?  Or was it the liberals/progressives who decided that is the name we must call them?  I suspect it was the liberals as part of their phony list of words that are meant to appease a group for votes.

Edited July 31, 2024 by blackbird

[herbie]

5 hours ago, blackbird said:

The idea of calling natives "First Nations" is a kind of racist ideology to begin with.

Oh F off with that anything identifying you is racist towards me bullshit.
Tired of that bullshit ever since your like minded buddies began to insist that Black Lives Matter meant theirs didn't.

You deny you're a racist and deny you hate indigenous people while you post something condemning them every single day for weeks on end. Obviously your dislike of Catholics comes from the fact they must own up to and confess their sins where as you can't even see your own.

[blackbird]

13 minutes ago, herbie said:

Obviously your dislike of Catholics comes from the fact they must own up to and confess their sins where as you can't even see your own.

When are you going to repent of your sins, wash your mouth with soap, and believe the gospel of Jesus Christ?   You should know a fake religion won't save anybody.

Also, confessing your sins won't save you either if you don't believe in the Savior.  Nobody can atone for their own sins.  You can say all the Hail Mary's in the world, but it won't do any good.

Edited July 31, 2024 by blackbird

[Nefarious Banana]

8 hours ago, blackbird said:

The idea of calling natives 'First Nations' is a kind of racist ideology to begin with.

Just curious but who started calling them First Nations?  Was it the aboriginals themselves demanding it?  

Not 'First Nations' . . . . it's 'First Immigrants'

[blackbird]

22 minutes ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Not 'First Nations' . . . . it's 'First Immigrants'

 

The word "First" implies some kind of special status, which means everyone else is lower in status.  Strange that the DEI people would use words to try to create divisions between people.  We are all created humans who have the same right to live on this earth.  There should be no second class citizens or "colonizers".

Edited July 31, 2024 by blackbird

[herbie]

Oh boy oh boy, he got to use DEI the latest right wing "dirty word"....

On 7/31/2024 at 4:03 PM, blackbird said:

There should be no second class citizens or "colonizers".

Sing a different song about immigrants colonizing, don't you?

[NAME REMOVED]

On 2/26/2024 at 2:42 PM, herbie said:

 

But we could give it some unpronounceable name that looks like it was typed on a keyboard with no vowels and too many punctuation marks in keeping with today's renaming conventions.

Meanwhile in Winnipeg...

[eyeball]

On 7/31/2024 at 3:40 PM, Nefarious Banana said:

it's 'First Immigrants'

'Old-stock' Canadians can relate and routinely go out of their way to do so when dissing new-stock immigrants for not respecting their traditions and values.

I'm just an earthing myself - keeps it simple and uncomplicated.

[herbie]

Move 200 km north and 'colonizer' isn't so offensive. Your white friends in the big city will treat you like you are one.

When I moved up here with my first wife, her Auntie wrote and said she was so brave to move way up country with the "wild Indians"... only 1 of my old circle of friends ever visited. I know one of them's retired and never been beyond Hope.

Edited August 6, 2024 by herbie

[Moonlight Graham]

On 2/26/2024 at 12:38 AM, cougar said:

I have always wondered where this "British Columbia" came from.

Columbia is a country in South America.   How it got its name "Columbia", I also do not know and do not care all that much.

But how did part of Canada ended up being called Columbia ? 

Is it from the Columbia river, which was called Columbia by some explorer with very poor imagination?

The Columbia river probably has an indigenous name, which if it reverts to, we may have to change the name of the province too.

My guess is the name "Columbia" comes from the explorer Columbus who discovered/rediscovered the Americas.  Maybe at some point all of the "new world" was referred to as "Columbia"?

[eyeball]

12 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

My guess is the name "Columbia" comes from the explorer Columbus who discovered/rediscovered the Americas.  Maybe at some point all of the "new world" was referred to as "Columbia"?

Americans referred to the entire Northwest part of the continent they claimed as being Columbia. England added the qualifier British Columbia to the part it claimed.

[herbie]

American Columbia became the Oregon Territory in 1848.
British Columbia became the name in 1858 when the mainland was consolidated into 1 colony, then for all when Vancouver Island merged in 1866. Queen Victoria named it.

Illaheechuk? A real skookum pick....

 

[blackbird]

On 8/2/2024 at 7:48 PM, herbie said:

Sing a different song about immigrants colonizing, don't you?

That's true.  When there are no more European founding people in Canada and no more Christian culture because this place has been taken over by Africans, Asians, the rest of the third world, and aboriginals, you might realize you should not have been so woke and liberal.

Edited August 8, 2024 by blackbird