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8 hours ago, Black Dog said:

But you're really only talking about *some* Europeans here.

I'm talking about anyone of any race or religion who embraces and adopts the tenets of Western culture. The culture that made the West the most scientifically and culturally advanced, tolerant, open-minded, free, and wealthy civilization in the history of the world.

You know, the culture the progressives largely reject and want to destroy.

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5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Japan was never colonized, which makes it the Belle of the Ball to wannabe chud money flag planters.

Sorry? How are you defining that? If by 'colonized', you mean 'some colonial power took over and moved its people there in great numbers, overriding the local culture' then the only countries that qualify are the ones in the Western Hemisphere and Australia/New Zealand. 

If you mean 'a foreign government or power moved there with its military might and took over completely, running the place, giving orders and basically overseeing everything going on for decades' then yes, Japan was colonized. Not for as long as India, but probably even more closely controlled. And this exposure to the West and Western culture is the reason places like Japan, Singapore, and South Korea are more advanced than others in their region. 

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6 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Go to China, and tell me US engineers are the best in the world.

They have some of the most innovative and tallest buildings in the world. Bridges. Take the Macau bridge, and tell me anything remotely close can be found in our part of the world regarding complexity. Largest malls, and technologies used in the west thanks to minds like this.

China has more modern infrastructure because its government has been determined to modernize everything and has put massive amounts of money into doing so. The US governments, unfortunately, have been obsessed with cutting taxes, and with it modernization and even basic maintenance on their infrastructure. When they do build infrastructure they tend to build it as cheaply as possible. Though there are exceptions. 

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6 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Go to India, and tell me our western textile production is best.

Who ever said it was? Who ever said India's was the best, as opposed to the cheapest?

 

 

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25 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

1. Sorry? How are you defining that? If by 'colonized', you mean 'some colonial power took over and moved its people there in great numbers, overriding the local culture' then the only countries that qualify are the ones in the Western Hemisphere and Australia/New Zealand. 

 

1. Took over government, yes.  Killed off locals.  Americas, Africa, Asia were all colonized to some degree.

As far as I know Japan wasn't colonized.  But I don't know all of history.

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17 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

As far as I know Japan wasn't colonized.  But I don't know all of history.

because Japan was already an empire unto itself

although "Japan" is the Portuguese name for it

it's actually ; Nihon

the "Japanese" rather  being the Nihonjin

but since they successfully staved off the Mongols from the mainland

the Nihon became a power unto themselves

the equal of any European empire

until Hiroshima that is

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41 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Took over government, yes.  Killed off locals.  Americas, Africa, Asia were all colonized to some degree.

I don't recall any instances of the British Empire killing off locals for its own sake

the British Empire would only deploy military force against an armed insurrection to restore order

otherwise, the overriding British Imperial imperative was Evangelical

to convert the locals to Protestant Christianity,  in order to civilize them

still in progress in Canada, which the British North American Victorians now call "Indigenous Reconciliation"

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1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Took over government, yes.  Killed off locals.  Americas, Africa, Asia were all colonized to some degree.

As far as I know Japan wasn't colonized.  But I don't know all of history.

If you believe India was colonized/was a colony of England, then Japan was a colony of the United States. It supplanted the local government, oversaw an entire change in culture, introduced democracy and all the rules around it, including the writing of a new constitution, and entirely reshaped Japan's society.

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8 hours ago, I am Groot said:

If you believe India was colonized/was a colony of England, then Japan was a colony of the United States. It supplanted the local government, oversaw an entire change in culture, introduced democracy and all the rules around it, including the writing of a new constitution, and entirely reshaped Japan's society.

It's a subtle difference and I don't know about the history of Britain and India but I wouldn't call post WW2 Japan colonized.

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9 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

It's a subtle difference and I don't know about the history of Britain and India but I wouldn't call post WW2 Japan colonized.

Japan’s system was reworked by the Yanks, but because Japan has so little immigration, it has maintained its culture better than most countries.  Of course with its negative birth rate Japan will have to turn to immigration or continue to accept tepid growth or deflation. The question for Japan is whether she can maintain herself successfully as its population shrinks (if demographic and political trends there continue)?  If they can, then perhaps countries like Canada can thrive with low immigration and tepid growth, which would make the climate fascists happy.

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On 3/15/2024 at 7:46 AM, Black Dog said:

And I'm entitled to call that belief racist. Which it is. Anyway there's nothing intrinsic to white people that makes them the greatest makers of doo-dads and gadgets.

Yeah white racists love the Japanese for some reason, which is funny to me.

I guess then that i am entitled to say that i believe that you are an anti-white racist. As if the blacks in Haiti are a lot better than white people when it comes to peace and law and order, eh? Chuckle. Just a reminder that it is not the white people that has corrupted Haiti. Haiti is all black. Just saying. 

I believe that without white folk being around, the world would be one hell of a hell hole. At least the white folk did help create many great humanitarian things that made millions of people from around the world a better place for them t who invented the computer. You would probably be coloring in your coloring books for something to do. Actually, maybe in your spare time you do play with coloring books, the only dumb thing that you know how to do, eh? 🤣

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On 3/15/2024 at 9:27 AM, Perspektiv said:

Jack Daniel's whisky would not exist if not for slaves. The credit was entirely given to his owner.

There are hundreds of inventions created by slaves in the US, alone. Due to the lack of rights and patents, the credit often would not go to the slave.

It was also in their best interest, to be or act dumb to avoid being killed or beaten. To assume there were no innovative slaves (or geniuses), would be ignorant at best.

You're ignoring the inventions and wealth taken due to colonizing, such as the creating of Madagascar vanilla. Another slave invention, in terms of fast tracking its production. 

I could go on for days. Just because someone takes credit for an invention, doesn't always mean it is their own.

Not to take away from the contributions white people have made to the world, you can't ignore the contributions and innovative minds globally, that have also made our modern world one of the best to live in.

Go to China, and tell me US engineers are the best in the world.

They have some of the most innovative and tallest buildings in the world. Bridges. Take the Macau bridge, and tell me anything remotely close can be found in our part of the world regarding complexity. Largest malls, and technologies used in the west thanks to minds like this.

Go to India, and tell me our western textile production is best.

If you feel white people are superior, you're welcome to.

But to state that they are doesn't hold weight. 

I don't see such views as racist however, as you have yet to present a strong case to support them, which just make them ignorant in my books. 

Racist is an overused word in our lingo, which I don't feel describes you.

Coming up with food and booze is not much of  creation by slaves. I will bet that many blacks, native Indians as well as white folk got drunk on Jack Daniels. Not much there to brag about, eh? 

Both China and India got all of their so called inventions from the white world. China, India and Macau used white ingenuity to build those bridges. They would not be so advanced if it were not for good old whitey. Cars, boats, planes and buildings are all pretty much inventions and creations of white people. Coming up with new foods and booze are not all that great of inventions or creations. I know that most anti-white people hate to hear that news, but it is to bad for them. In many ways, white people are far more superior to any other race of people. Just my opinion. 😇

Indeed, the word racist is an overused word and the word racist is being used to try and shut the white folk down. It is not working anymore. We white folk do have our own opinions, and we are getting tired of being called a racist every time we have or give an opinion. I am not a racist. I am just someone with an outspoken opinion that most people do not want to hear. Aw well. 🙃

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9 minutes ago, taxme said:

Coming up with food and booze is not much of  creation by slaves.

I gave an example. Like mentioned, there are hundreds of other examples. This is just slaves. Look up inventions from black people, and tell me "its not much of a creation". I'd like to see how the world would operate without traffic lights, or gear shifters for their cars, which were invented by black people.

Egypt alone, is responsible for many of the things you take for granted in your home, like hinges. The degree of advanced engineering they had in their society, was beyond their years, by quite a bit.

You clearly have never traveled the world, and likely see the world as the US, and a bunch of s*** holes next to it. Ironically enough, you're not educated enough to name any of them (and are claiming superiority). O_o

14 minutes ago, taxme said:

Not much there to brag about, eh? 

Its not about bragging. Its pointing out the discrepancy in the point you're making, that white people are superior because of inventions. What have you invented? So how are you superior, again?

Its like a flat chested woman, telling me that women are superior because they have big breasts.

Its pointing to your horrible logic.

22 minutes ago, taxme said:

In many ways, white people are far more superior to any other race of people.

Going on your logic, you're showing you're the bottom of the barrel.  I don't see how you legit feel you're superior to anyone, let alone house animals that lick their genitals clean and chase after their tails.

25 minutes ago, taxme said:

Indeed, the word racist is an overused word

No you're definitely not racist. You're ignorant, and insanely sheltered. People like you aren't a threat to people like me, as your words are laughable at best. You're clearly trolling for your personal enjoyment, and are a coward who wouldn't have the balls to remotely speak any of what you're speaking in front of any black people.

26 minutes ago, taxme said:

I am just someone with an outspoken opinion that most people do not want to hear.

Its not about not wanting to hear--its the fact that your opinion isn't factual in any way shape or form. People like you would point to all inventions in the world being made by white people, which is easily refuted, but you would push back with "look, trust me--it was white people".

I feel I'm losing brain cells debating with you.

At least use logic, when defending your point.

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On 3/16/2024 at 12:22 PM, taxme said:

I guess then that i am entitled to say that i believe that you are an anti-white racist. As if the blacks in Haiti are a lot better than white people when it comes to peace and law and order, eh? Chuckle. Just a reminder that it is not the white people that has corrupted Haiti. Haiti is all black. Just saying. 

Actually white people (specifically, the French) kept Haiti in poverty by siphoning billions of dollars from its economy as "reparations" for property the french lost in the Haitian revolution (including enslaved people). Guess you didn't learn that at Cracker School.

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I believe that without white folk being around, the world would be one hell of a hell hole. At least the white folk did help create many great humanitarian things that made millions of people from around the world a better place for them t who invented the computer. You would probably be coloring in your coloring books for something to do. Actually, maybe in your spare time you do play with coloring books, the only dumb thing that you know how to do, eh? 🤣

The thing that cracks me up about racists is the extent to which they take pride in things that aren't accomplishments (like their skin colour) and in actual accomplishments they had nothing to do with. 

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2 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

What do you mean by this?  Don't really understand.  "Chud money flag planter"?

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The chuds love images, slogans and emotions over principles, values and reason.  This is why you will see many a chud on TikTok supporting a MAGA dictatorship while wearing their flag, which is an anti-monarchist symbol.

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7 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

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The chuds love images, slogans and emotions over principles, values and reason.  This is why you will see many a chud on TikTok supporting a MAGA dictatorship while wearing their flag, which is an anti-monarchist symbol.

A MAGA dictatorship would be a lot better for we the people than what your hero Castro Trudeau is trying to do. While your hero Castro Trudeau implements anti-free speech and censorship laws like Bills C-11 and C-18 and now the Online Harms Bill C-63, we would never see a MAGA Trump or conservative government ever implement such acts of tyranny and communism like the Bills that i mentioned above.

How dare you call MAGA supporters being supporters of Marxist like dictatorship and tyranny, comrade. You are the Marxist dictator supporter here, and not the MAGA supporters. MAGA fights for freedom, you fight for Marxism, right? 

Dare or care to comment on what i wrote above, comrade? Knowing you, probably not. You are just way too frightened of me to talk to me, right? All left wing liberals, socialists, communists and environmentalists are all scared of conservatives and MAGA because everything that they stand for is all bs and they know it too. 🤡

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7 hours ago, Black Dog said:

Actually white people (specifically, the French) kept Haiti in poverty by siphoning billions of dollars from its economy as "reparations" for property the french lost in the Haitian revolution (including enslaved people). Guess you didn't learn that at Cracker School.

The thing that cracks me up about racists is the extent to which they take pride in things that aren't accomplishments (like their skin colour) and in actual accomplishments they had nothing to do with. 

The french that founded Haiti were all in the end pretty much murdered by the black Haitians. That is a fact. Something the left wing liberals like you will never bother to bring up and talk about because it would make the black Haitians not look so great after all. And today, the black Haitians continue to show that they are no better than their past so called slave owners were that they condemn today. 

The black Haitians have had decades and a chance to make Haiti a wonderful paradise to want to vacation and live in. But they decided instead to turn Haiti into a third world hell hole. I guess that you do not like to hear that little well known fact from this white cracker, now do you, eh? The blacks of today keep whining and crying about wanting reparations even though they were never slaves at all. They just want to try and suck more money for free out of old whitey cracker.

Get lost with your BLM crap. 😁

 

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15 hours ago, taxme said:

The french that founded Haiti were all in the end pretty much murdered by the black Haitians. That is a fact. Something the left wing liberals like you will never bother to bring up and talk about because it would make the black Haitians not look so great after all. And today, the black Haitians continue to show that they are no better than their past so called slave owners were that they condemn today.

Actually murdering all the slaveowners and colonists was good.

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The black Haitians have had decades and a chance to make Haiti a wonderful paradise to want to vacation and live in. But they decided instead to turn Haiti into a third world hell hole. I guess that you do not like to hear that little well known fact from this white cracker, now do you, eh?

When did they decide to do that, exactly?
 

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The blacks of today keep whining and crying about wanting reparations even though they were never slaves at all. They just want to try and suck more money for free out of old whitey cracker.

 

And you keep hyping up white people accomplishments even though you've achieved nothing on your own.

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Get lost with your BLM crap. 

Get f*cked with your KKK crap.

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7 hours ago, Black Dog said:

Actually murdering all the slaveowners and colonists was good.

Worked out well for them, did it?

Perhaps a little less brutal rebellion might have won them less hatred and insistence on reparations.

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12 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Worked out well for them, did it?

Perhaps a little less brutal rebellion might have won them less hatred and insistence on reparations.

Yes I'm sure the people who kept other people as property were actually quite reasonable.

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