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On 2/1/2024 at 3:49 PM, Legato said:

It's called remain in Mexico. They can sit in the sand there. No need for more facilities.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You seem to think Mexico us a suburb of Texas....its a COUNTRY ...it has its own leaders. Thanks to YOUR stupid leader Donald J. Trump we now have a country south of our border who us trying very hard not to close THEIR border to US and mark us off their friendship list, thereby leaving our common border totally unguarded thanks to you fools!  Red China could put an Army in Central America and crush their way through to us in two weeks or less and Mexico, who used to be our friendly neighbor to the South, would likely soon, at the rate things are going thanks again to Donald Trump, stand aside and let them through!   Way to go there Republicans! You, singlehandedly wrecked our national defense in what...?..A year?  

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1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Where do "the laws already on the books" say that permitting the application for asylum is OPTIONAL?

 

Where does it say that the applicant must remain in the usa for the entire time his claim is being processed?

Nowhere you say?? Ohhhh - that must be why it was legal for trump to do it OUTSIDE the usa and force them to "remain" in mexico!!!!

Just do that.  Pretty simple.

8 hours ago, Rebound said:

I don’t think it is the most urgent problem facing America by a long shot. 

I honestly didn't either but i'm seeing some polling and other indications that it's a lot bigger than i thought and probably bigger than you thought. The media has been avoiding it but it's actually kind of bursting at the seems as far as stories go and it's definitely going to hurt biden in some key states.

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35 minutes ago, Caswell Thomas said:

Already doing that, but they are still coming. Since we can't just conduct an air strike in THEIR countries to get them to stop coming, ( and prevent us having another enemy if not many, south of the southern  border) , we need to beef up our border protections right? 

Nope - not doing that.  In fact he went to court to REDUCE the existing laws.  Now they're flooding the place.

10 minutes ago, Caswell Thomas said:

You seem to think Mexico us a suburb of Texas....its a COUNTRY ...it has its own leaders.

Sure - and it's own border.  Stay on THAT side of it while you file your claim to come from that country INTO this country. :P 

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20 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Where does it say that the applicant must remain in the usa for the entire time his claim is being processed?

Nowhere you say?? Ohhhh - that must be why it was legal for trump to do it OUTSIDE the usa and force them to "remain" in mexico!!!!

Just do that.  Pretty simple.

I honestly didn't either but i'm seeing some polling and other indications that it's a lot bigger than i thought and probably bigger than you thought. The media has been avoiding it but it's actually kind of bursting at the seems as far as stories go and it's definitely going to hurt biden in some key states.

Well it won't be Joe Biden they blame for our problems with the border to our South, it will be the man and his Party who caused it all by insulting everyone and building a Wall between theretofore two friendly countries !

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After fighting tooth and nail against border security when Trump was president, and promising to shut down wall-building on day 1 of Biden's new term, the Dems suddenly wanna start increasing security 3 years in, and now they're gonna scream blue murder because they're not getting their way.

These people are children, and not very bright one at that. The smartest ones make Spanky and Alfalfa look like Little Sheldon. 

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12 minutes ago, Caswell Thomas said:

Well it won't be Joe Biden they blame for our problems with the border to our South, it will be the man and his Party who caused it all by insulting everyone and building a Wall between theretofore two friendly countries !

it's absolutely joe biden - the man who went to court to get the right to open the border back up and release illegals into the country.  That's just a matter of record. He did not have to ever cancel Remain - and he did.

Sorry - more illegals have come across the border BY FAR in 2023 than in trumps entire time in office.  So far.

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12 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

it's absolutely joe biden - the man who went to court to get the right to open the border back up and release illegals into the country.  That's just a matter of record. He did not have to ever cancel Remain - and he did.

Sorry - more illegals have come across the border BY FAR in 2023 than in trumps entire time in office.  So far.

They were coming across the border from as far back as the 1960's ...where were the Republicans and all their complaints then? My Uncles' ranch was on the last remaining part of the Otay Mesa North of the Border , and he spoke often even back then of the illegals coming across at night scaring his cattle. The only reason we now are inundated with border crossings in such numbers is Trumps stupid idea of building a WALL along the border with Mexico!  Even people who had thought if Going to America as a future dream...now, thinking they wouldn't even gave a dream fulfilled in their dreams...packed up to come here, swarming like locusts because Trump hates Mexicans! 

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1 hour ago, Caswell Thomas said:

You seem to think Mexico us a suburb of Texas....its a COUNTRY ...it has its own leaders. Thanks to YOUR stupid leader Donald J. Trump we now have a country south of our border who us trying very hard not to close THEIR border to US and mark us off their friendship list, thereby leaving our common border totally unguarded thanks to you fools!  Red China could put an Army in Central America and crush their way through to us in two weeks or less and Mexico, who used to be our friendly neighbor to the South, would likely soon, at the rate things are going thanks again to Donald Trump, stand aside and let them through!   Way to go there Republicans! You, singlehandedly wrecked our national defense in what...?..A year?  

Do you have a nose on your face, if so, then it's as plain as that.

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2 hours ago, robosmith said:

It's always easy to overlook laws which only exist in your IMAGINATION.

Sorry, that's your forte, or in your case fifty.

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50 minutes ago, Caswell Thomas said:

They were coming across the border from as far back as the 1960's ...

In small numbers, sure.  And trump took actions that cut the numbers down drastically from obama's days.  And biden took strong action to OPEN IT BACK UP AGAIN.  went to court and won the right.

So today is on biden.  You can sing and dance  but that doesnt' alter that simple truth. The record and historic number of illegal immigrants today is happening because of biden. Not just his inaction but because of his actions

And many in the states seem to be very concerned about that. I think it's going to cost him next election.

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19 hours ago, CdnFox said:

In small numbers, sure.  And trump took actions that cut the numbers down drastically from obama's days.  And biden took strong action to OPEN IT BACK UP AGAIN.  went to court and won the right.

So today is on biden.  You can sing and dance  but that doesnt' alter that simple truth. The record and historic number of illegal immigrants today is happening because of biden. Not just his inaction but because of his actions

And many in the states seem to be very concerned about that. I think it's going to cost him next election.

Trump didn't serve under President Obama, in fact one hears Trump hates Obama. 

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3 hours ago, Caswell Thomas said:

Trump didn't serve under President Obama, in fact one hears Trump hates Obama. 

And it's a shame - trump would have probably made the changes then that were necessary if he had. As it is obama allowed crossings to grow till it was called a crisis.  Btw the number crossing now is 6 times that 'crisis' level.

 

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22 hours ago, CdnFox said:

And it's a shame - trump would have probably made the changes then that were necessary if he had. As it is obama allowed crossings to grow till it was called a crisis.  Btw the number crossing now is 6 times that 'crisis' level.

 

And who started that flood if humanity? It was NOT President Obama ...it was Donald J. Trump, Chief Racist  of the GOP who started all the name calling and insults directed at Mexico.  

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1 hour ago, Caswell Thomas said:

And who started that flood if humanity?

It was during obama's time. Many have said that obama's "open door" policy and "Dreamers" talk of making everyone legal was what drove it.  I think that's just speculation but it was definitely an obama problem. Obama had the first "crisis at the border".

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/09/683623555/president-obama-also-faced-a-crisis-at-the-southern-border

In a nationally televised address from the White House, the president warned about an "actual humanitarian crisis on the border" prompted by a surge of migrants from Central America, and urged Congress to take action on his immigration agenda. The year was 2014, and the president was Barack Obama.
 
Isn't there something you can get right? Like.. ever?
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1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

It was during obama's time. Many have said that obama's "open door" policy and "Dreamers" talk of making everyone legal was what drove it.  I think that's just speculation but it was definitely an obama problem. Obama had the first "crisis at the border".

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/09/683623555/president-obama-also-faced-a-crisis-at-the-southern-border

In a nationally televised address from the White House, the president warned about an "actual humanitarian crisis on the border" prompted by a surge of migrants from Central America, and urged Congress to take action on his immigration agenda. The year was 2014, and the president was Barack Obama.
 
Isn't there something you can get right? Like.. ever?

And the Republican Congress blocked that immigration bill, and they’re still blocking immigration legislation.  

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21 hours ago, CdnFox said:

It was during obama's time. Many have said that obama's "open door" policy and "Dreamers" talk of making everyone legal was what drove it.  I think that's just speculation but it was definitely an obama problem. Obama had the first "crisis at the border".

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/09/683623555/president-obama-also-faced-a-crisis-at-the-southern-border

In a nationally televised address from the White House, the president warned about an "actual humanitarian crisis on the border" prompted by a surge of migrants from Central America, and urged Congress to take action on his immigration agenda. The year was 2014, and the president was Barack Obama.
 
Isn't there something you can get right? Like.. ever?

I tend to think a part of the current border crisis came when then President Trump decided to build a solid Wall between two friendly countries who were previously trying to deal, not with a politically made worse problem on the border, to make a greedy politician look good.... but a water crisis which stemmed from the 1940 water treaty which has been giving Texas for decades unfair amounts of the water from the Rio Grande to Texas farmers while scrwing the Mexican farmers of a fair share and refusing to renegotiate said treaty despite multiple promises to do so by multiple Texas governors. Trump stepped into that and in exchange for votes for himself, 'fixed the problem' by putting up a Wall which also cut further into the Water rights allowed to Mexican farmers. The bad blood caused by Trump's action rippled from Mexico to all points south whose inhabitants, seeing their countries encouraged to destroy themselves by fueling our USA insatiable DRUG Lords billionaires by forming their own drug cartels to carve themselves out their own drug empires in Central and South America -as pretty much the only industry there now...and during whuch- meanwhile our billionaires are robbing their countries of every resource, every mineral, and reducing them to an agrarian geography now serves to steal their fair share of water...resulting in  destroying their countries !  And you have the Gaul to claim President Obama who didn't even take office until 2009!  

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2 hours ago, Caswell Thomas said:

I tend to think a part of the current border crisis came when then President Trump decided to build a solid Wall between two friendly countries

Sure - because you're an 1diot who puts partisan hackery above reason logic or facts.  I mean you believe that women and babies are being killed by secret underwater razor wire so it's not shock you'll believe any damn thing that pops into your head.

BTW- there were already some walls up with mexico long looooongg before trump.  And the problems started under obama and that's according to Obama -  sooooooo

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Less than 24 hours after agreeing to support the bi-partisan financing of freedom - border crisis bill many Republicans in the Senate are reneging on their word. The party is a shameful and disgusting circus these days: no integrity, no spine, and no principles Lincoln and Reagan would have nothing to do with it. They think that they are only playing some cute political games. But nothing will be hidden from the history. Every name and every choice will be written into it. Yes, they knew.

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1 hour ago, myata said:

Less than 24 hours after agreeing to support the bi-partisan financing of freedom - border crisis bill many Republicans in the Senate are reneging on their word. The party is a shameful and disgusting circus these days: no integrity, no spine, and no principles Lincoln and Reagan would have nothing to do with it. They think that they are only playing some cute political games. But nothing will be hidden from the history. Every name and every choice will be written into it. Yes, they knew.

Good. Let history also record the Brandon border. Let history record the insanity of the Brandon border. Let history record the Border Czar and her nonsensical lack of action. Let history record Mayorkis and his seething lies. But most of all...

Let history record how partisan, destructive little twits, supported the insanity that is Brandon's border, while thousands died of drug overdoses and crime had a Fiesta, all so these destructive little twits could express their pure hatred for America and Orangemanbad.

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They have no answers but lets fix problems with more chaos and the ultimate chaos. It never works of course. A sad and shameful demise of one of the pillars of a great Western democracy. And a stark reminder that nothing can be taken for free and for granted: without ongoing thought; commitment and responsibility.

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58 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Good. Let history also record the Brandon border. Let history record the insanity of the Brandon border. Let history record the Border Czar and her nonsensical lack of action. Let history record Mayorkis and his seething lies. But most of all...

Let history record how partisan, destructive little twits, supported the insanity that is Brandon's border, while thousands died of drug overdoses and crime had a Fiesta, all so these destructive little twits could express their pure hatred for America and Orangemanbad.

 

OLD MAN YELLS AT CLOUD

 

Again, the "Brandon border" is the same as every other US border. Actually it's slightly more effective at repatriating border crossers and releases a lower percentage of border crossers into the US than the "Trump border." The only thing that's changed is the volume of people trying to cross. This accelerated under Trump as well, as conditions in Central and South America have deteriorated. The "open border" is a myth and a lie.

Our laws aren't equipped to deal with this volume of migrants. If we want to change the situation, we'll need to change the underlying fundamentals or the law. And Trumpublicans are actively working to sabotage changes to the law. If you want to blame somebody, that's a reasonable start.

Also, it's not your border or your country, so bugger off with the fanboy indignation. 

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On 2/1/2024 at 3:14 PM, Caswell Thomas said:

The GOP continues to refuse to approve  President Biden's request for Additional Border Funding but continues to complain in High Media Profile  on every media channel in loud and angry tranting that the President is refusing to bring additional forces and control to the same Border!  

That the GOP is now looking a lot like a bewildered dog chasing its own tail, Trump has once again refused to allow the bipartisan agreement that would have gone a long way to fixing our border problems that the GOP had paved a path to last year! 

 

The Facilitator in chief has no interest in securing the border. It's why he wants 5,000 illegal aliens crossing our borders everyday. 

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