Nationalist Posted January 15, 2024 Report Posted January 15, 2024 6 hours ago, Hodad said: You simply aren't equipped to judge. You watch these "debates" like a dog watches TV. As long as you're entertained and don't chew the furniture, no harm done. A dog will protect its pack. You crap all over yours. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Legato Posted January 15, 2024 Report Posted January 15, 2024 10 hours ago, Hodad said: That probably seemed cleverer in your head. 🙄 Well it did elicit a response. Let me know when your knee's stop trembling. 1 Quote
Rebound Posted January 15, 2024 Report Posted January 15, 2024 On 1/13/2024 at 6:19 PM, WestCanMan said: Wrong. The economy just trended back towards where it was before covid, but leftist histrionics caused that economic meltdown Zelensky/Biden's Ukraine in NATO policies are precisely what caused that war. This was more of an epic failure than a success story. Again, if he didn't start the war he wouldn't have had to fund it Sure? I think that we'd all agree that area of the ME was a much happier place when Trump was POTUS He attacks domestic energy and pimps Chinese green tech/resources La-dee-f'ing-daaa The stock market is at an all-time high. Better than Trump Unemployment is at an all-time low, sub-4% for two years running. Better than Trump. Interest rates grew without harming the economy, which is good because the sub-1% rates under Trump were extremely dangerous and unsustainable. 1 Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
CdnFox Posted January 15, 2024 Report Posted January 15, 2024 1 hour ago, Rebound said: The stock market is at an all-time high. Better than Trump Due to excessive gov't spending that artificially inflates the economy for short periods. We've been over this, and i've posted the proofs with details. The economy right now for the average person is worse than when trump was in power, AND to top it off there's strong signs its about to slow down severely. You can cherry pick one metric but you can't fool people in their daily lives, where they're paying higher interest rates, much higher inflation, good jobs are slowing and the people are worried. And that's reflecting in the polling, people just have no faith in biden. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Hodad Posted January 15, 2024 Report Posted January 15, 2024 11 hours ago, Nationalist said: A dog will protect its pack. You crap all over yours. Again, an apt analogy. Rather than applying logic and reason, you simply lash out at perceived threats to your team. It's all feelings and instinct. For you it's not a debate forum at all. It's a fan forum.🤷♀️ Quote
robosmith Posted January 15, 2024 Report Posted January 15, 2024 (edited) 21 hours ago, WestCanMan said: It's been obvious for some time that you have nothing intelligent to say about anything. IF ^this were true, there'd be NO REASON for you to TRY to refute what I wrote. But it's NOT. 21 hours ago, WestCanMan said: 1. The traditional definition of vaccination that we ALL grew up with, and which was still normal in 2019, contained the phrase "confers immunity to a pathogen". "Immunity" is not what you believe it is. It means resistance, NOT 100% block of infection. im·mu·ni·ty /iˈmyo͞onədē/ 1. the state or quality of being resistant to a particular infectious disease or pathogen. "immunity to typhoid seems to have increased spontaneously" 21 hours ago, WestCanMan said: The flu "shots", I'll say again: "shots", were never compared to vaccines by the majority of people because they just added protection to things that weren't lethal in the first place and in most cases they never worked at all. In REALITY vaccine is COMMONLY used to describe flu shots. Walk In Flu Vaccines - Schedule Your Free Flu Shot Schedule Your Flu Shot Today - No Cost Vaccines Avail Google 21 hours ago, WestCanMan said: 2. Whoopty doo dah... If the covid vaccine was a safe vaccine we wouldn't be arguing about this. We'd both have it and you'd be lying about Trump instead of jabs right now. It has been proven SAFE by well over 60,000 patients in TRIALS. Satisfied the FDA requirements and mine. Too bad yours don't count to anyone esle. 21 hours ago, WestCanMan said: 3. Whatever??? Nope. Viral vs. Bacterial vaccinations have different efficacies due to viruses mutating much more rapidly. 21 hours ago, WestCanMan said: My reliance on the most important statistics of all makes total sense. You rely on phantom stats, mostly from the drug manufacturers themselves, and you need to completely ignore the death stats because they blow your narrative apart. Thing is, you don't understand the mechanisms well enough to properly interpret the statistics. Doctors and other EXPERTS understand BOTH. Edited January 15, 2024 by robosmith Quote
robosmith Posted January 15, 2024 Report Posted January 15, 2024 19 hours ago, Nationalist said: You have zero credibility when you speak of logic. Grasp that. He's not talking about and/or/xor logic you used in programming. And probably nowhere else. Certainly NOT HERE. 19 hours ago, Hodad said: That probably seemed cleverer in your head. 🙄 Maybe he also used proper grammar in his head. LMAO Quote
robosmith Posted January 15, 2024 Report Posted January 15, 2024 8 hours ago, Legato said: Well it did elicit a response. Let me know when your knee's stop trembling. ^Reached the simple minded goal of a TROLL. Congrats. 26 minutes ago, Hodad said: Again, an apt analogy. Rather than applying logic and reason, you simply lash out at perceived threats to your team. It's all feelings and instinct. For you it's not a debate forum at all. It's a fan forum.🤷♀️ More like an opportunity to continually TROLL. 1 Quote
Hodad Posted January 15, 2024 Report Posted January 15, 2024 (edited) 10 minutes ago, robosmith said: IF ^this were true, there'd be NO REASON for you to TRY to refute what I wrote. But it's NOT. "Immunity" is not what you believe it is. It means resistance, NOT 100% block of infection. im·mu·ni·ty /iˈmyo͞onədē/ 1. the state or quality of being resistant to a particular infectious disease or pathogen. "immunity to typhoid seems to have increased spontaneously" In REALITY vaccine is COMMONLY used to describe flu shots. Walk In Flu Vaccines - Schedule Your Free Flu Shot Schedule Your Flu Shot Today - No Cost Vaccines Avail Google It has been proven SAFE by well over 60,000 patients in TRIALS. Satisfied the FDA requirements and mine. Too bad yours don't count to anyone esle. Nope. Viral vs. Bacterial vaccinations have different efficacies due to viruses mutating much more rapidly. Thing is, you don't understand the mechanisms well enough to properly interpret the statistics. Doctors and other EXPERTS understand BOTH. That dimwit had been pretending the for over a year that the Flu vaccine isn't a vaccine because people casually call it a "shot." This is, of course complete bullshit. He "cites" marketing, which also contradicts the claim. And he knows it and has been shown the facts many times. This is the next "it wasn't raining!" He's just a compulsive liar. 🤷♀️ Edited January 15, 2024 by Hodad 1 Quote
robosmith Posted January 15, 2024 Report Posted January 15, 2024 6 minutes ago, Hodad said: This is the next "it wasn't raining!" He's just a compulsive liar. 🤷♀️ Not sure he's actually lying. It may be that his cognitive dissonance is SO STRONG that anything which conflicts with his mental model of reality never gets past the eval checks because if it did, the whole model would crumble. gnat man exhibits similar stubbornness and immunity to facts. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted January 15, 2024 Report Posted January 15, 2024 30 minutes ago, robosmith said: IF ^this were true, there'd be NO REASON for you to TRY to refute what I wrote. But it's NOT. "Immunity" is not what you believe it is. It means resistance, NOT 100% block of infection. im·mu·ni·ty /iˈmyo͞onədē/ 1. the state or quality of being resistant to a particular infectious disease or pathogen. "immunity to typhoid seems to have increased spontaneously" In REALITY vaccine is COMMONLY used to describe flu shots. Walk In Flu Vaccines - Schedule Your Free Flu Shot Schedule Your Flu Shot Today - No Cost Vaccines Avail Google It has been proven SAFE by well over 60,000 patients in TRIALS. Satisfied the FDA requirements and mine. Too bad yours don't count to anyone esle. Nope. Viral vs. Bacterial vaccinations have different efficacies due to viruses mutating much more rapidly. Thing is, you don't understand the mechanisms well enough to properly interpret the statistics. Doctors and other EXPERTS understand BOTH. I'm gonna do something completely out of character here...and declare you both correct. Fact is...the Rona vaxx was/is not a classic vaccine. It was/is, not terribly effective...if at all. In fact...it's apparent now that the Rona vaxx did more harm than good in a lot of cases. A lot of 'em. On the other hand...it has been reported as having had a benefit...kind o' sort o'. IMO...if ya wanna get vaxxed up...do it. Don't expect a meddle though. And don't force people...especially kids...to take a vaxx for something not even dangerous to kids. That's nothing more than a blatant cash grab. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
robosmith Posted January 15, 2024 Report Posted January 15, 2024 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I'm gonna do something completely out of character here...and declare you both correct. Fact is...the Rona vaxx was/is not a classic vaccine. It was/is, not terribly effective...if at all. In fact...it's apparent now that the Rona vaxx did more harm than good in a lot of cases. A lot of 'em. Many trials of 30,000 individuals demonstrated effectiveness. The FDA would not approve a vaccine that "did more harm than good," in a statistically significant number of cases. 26 minutes ago, Nationalist said: On the other hand...it has been reported as having had a benefit...kind o' sort o'. Nope. Statistically significant effectiveness. 26 minutes ago, Nationalist said: IMO...if ya wanna get vaxxed up...do it. Don't expect a meddle though. And don't force people...especially kids...to take a vaxx for something not even dangerous to kids. That's nothing more than a blatant cash grab. BTW, I want a medal for my effort. Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome in Children (MIS-C ... - CDC and Assessment of COVID-19 as the Underlying Cause of Death Among Children and Young People Aged 0 to 19 Years in the US Quote Findings Among children and young people aged 0 to 19 years in the US, COVID-19 ranked eighth among all causes of deaths, fifth in disease-related causes of deaths (excluding unintentional injuries, assault, and suicide), and first in deaths caused by infectious or respiratory diseases. COVID-19 deaths constituted 2% of all causes of death in this age group. Meaning In this study, COVID-19 posed a significant disease burden for children and young people, so pharmaceutical and nonpharmaceutical interventions continue to be important to limit transmission of the virus and to mitigate severe disease. Edited January 15, 2024 by robosmith Quote
Legato Posted January 15, 2024 Report Posted January 15, 2024 1 hour ago, robosmith said: ^Reached the simple minded goal of a TROLL. Congrats. Yes I did, thank for the congratulations. BTW No need to hoard T Rolls now the pandemic is over Quote
robosmith Posted January 15, 2024 Report Posted January 15, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Legato said: Yes I did, thank for the congratulations. BTW No need to hoard T Rolls now the pandemic is over What's a "T Roll"? You mean TROLL? That's your department. I will, and have, continued to wear an N95 mask on the airliners cause COVID and RSV infections are on the rise here. Edited January 16, 2024 by robosmith Quote
WestCanMan Posted January 15, 2024 Author Report Posted January 15, 2024 21 hours ago, eyeball said: Sure there is, although this is definitely more a case of simply proving yourself wrong. As you can plainly see they didn't save us all at all. Probably saved lots nonetheless. You've permanently cemented yourself into a fallacy of misplaced concreteness of your own fabrication. Latest COVID-19 numbers (Last data update January 9, 2024, 11 am ET) Weekly change in cases 10,167 Total cases 4,891,249 Weekly change in deaths 79 Total deaths 57,274 Weekly tests reported 45,408 Weekly percent positivity 15.7% https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/ Buddy, that's 2024, not 2022. I didn't say a word about covid in 2024, and literally every single word that I said about covid in 2020-2022 still stands as 100% true. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
Rebound Posted January 15, 2024 Report Posted January 15, 2024 47 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I'm gonna do something completely out of character here...and declare you both correct. Fact is...the Rona vaxx was/is not a classic vaccine. It was/is, not terribly effective...if at all. In fact...it's apparent now that the Rona vaxx did more harm than good in a lot of cases. A lot of 'em. On the other hand...it has been reported as having had a benefit...kind o' sort o'. IMO...if ya wanna get vaxxed up...do it. Don't expect a meddle though. And don't force people...especially kids...to take a vaxx for something not even dangerous to kids. That's nothing more than a blatant cash grab. Cause you say so. Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
WestCanMan Posted January 15, 2024 Author Report Posted January 15, 2024 20 hours ago, Hodad said: Agreed, you did have trouble understanding. Efficacy is not measured by simple counting, but by incidence outcome. Apples to apples, how much does an intervention change the outcomes of incidents? Again, by your silly "logic" the fact that the number of traffic fatalities has gone up every year since seat belts were introduced means that seat belts don't save lives. The deaths are going up! Alas, it's a pretty simple concept, so if you can't grasp it, I don't think cartoon hearts will help you. Get your head out of your ass, dummy. If you measure vax efficacy by the 'incidence outcome' or straight death count, and deaths still end up being 30% higher, it's a failure either way. Either the deaths went up with the same number of infections, or 5 times as many people got infected to result in 30% more deaths, but 30% more people still died. A failure is a failure is a failure. Does it make the vax sound better to you if I start saying "5x as many people get infected now that 85% of Canadians are vaxed, but only 30% more die"? In case you forgot, the only reason we were all sold into vax-slavery was to keep from dying. "If you take the vaccine, you don't have to worry about getting covid." Both Fauci and Rochelle Wolenski said that. MSM echoed that in Canada and the US. That's the bill of goods we were sold. Now you tell me: is "death" a fate worth worrying about? Because vaxed people still have to worry about that, a lot. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
WestCanMan Posted January 16, 2024 Author Report Posted January 16, 2024 1 hour ago, robosmith said: IF ^this were true, there'd be NO REASON for you to TRY to refute what I wrote. But it's NOT. Who said I have to try? Quote "Immunity" is not what you believe it is. It means resistance, NOT 100% block of infection. im·mu·ni·ty /iˈmyo͞onədē/ 1. the state or quality of being resistant to a particular infectious disease or pathogen. "immunity to typhoid seems to have increased spontaneously" The first definition that pops up, from Merriam Webster no less: Quote www.merriam-webster.com › dictionary › immunityImmunity Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster Merriam-Webster unabridged. The meaning of IMMUNITY is the quality or state of being immune; especially : a condition of being able to resist a particular disease especially through preventing "Able to resist" doesn't mean, "Puts up scant resistance but then you die." Quote In REALITY vaccine is COMMONLY used to describe flu shots. Walk In Flu Vaccines - Schedule Your Free Flu Shot Schedule Your Flu Shot Today - No Cost Vaccines Avail Google Some people say that, sure, but they almost always just say "flu shot". Vaccines work. Shots are just immunity boosters. The flu "shot" is a "booster shot" at the very best. Quote It has been proven SAFE by well over 60,000 patients in TRIALS. Satisfied the FDA requirements and mine. Too bad yours don't count to anyone esle. It's not 'safe' at all. Safe is safe. Kinda safe is not safe. If it was safe then young men in Sweden, Finland and Norway wouldn't be banned from taking it, dummy. If you don't need it, and its not safe, don't take it. Quote Nope. Viral vs. Bacterial vaccinations have different efficacies due to viruses mutating much more rapidly. Who cares? I never said anything about viruses vs bacteria. That's your own private conversation with yourself. If you wanna make the case that vaccines don't work against viruses because they mutate too fast, then stop acting like there's a covid vaccine. There's not, both by my definition and yours. Quote Thing is, you don't understand the mechanisms well enough to properly interpret the statistics. Doctors and other EXPERTS understand BOTH. The mechanisms and the statistics are not connected. The mechanisms are an attempt, and the statistics are the result. robotard: "Well they almost survived, so it was a partial success hyuk hyuk. *puh...TING!* Dat's a bullseye." The whole farce of "The only reason deaths are up by 30% is because infections are up by 500%" is NOT AN INDICATOR OF PARTIAL SUCCESS! With 85% of the country vaccinated, there's no way that infections should be soaring. I don't have have to have a PhD to know what we were promised. Fauci lobbed words like "herd immunity", "safe", "effective", he said "you don't have to worry". The stats have to support ^^THAT^^, ^^UP THERE^^. If they don't, then the jabs are not what we were told they'd be. Get it? They don't have to meet a watered-down version of success that's entirely based on "some swabs we have say that a lot more people were infected. Trust the swabs." More people died, stupid. We vaxed 85% of the population in 2021, and in 2022 there were 30% more deaths. This is how pain relief medicine could work, by your standards: Stat: "95% of people who take the Pfizer/Moderna headache pills report that their headaches got worse." Robo: "Digesting that large of a pill in your stomach makes your headache 250% worse, but the medicinal ingredients reduce the total amount of pain to only 130% of what it was initially, so technically, the medicine is relieving pain." Bottom line: Only vaxed people were running around doing whatever they wanted in late 2021 and the first few months of 2022 while the unvaxed were still locked down. They were even fired. Deaths went up when 85% of us were vaxed and only the vaxed were allowed to be out and about. Shove your excuses, dummy. More deaths is bad, less deaths is good. Just learn that. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
robosmith Posted January 16, 2024 Report Posted January 16, 2024 (edited) 50 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Who said I have to try? You DID TRY. Duh 50 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: The first definition that pops up, from Merriam Webster no less: "Able to resist" doesn't mean, "Puts up scant resistance but then you die." It means vaccines INCREASE your RESISTANCE to infection. 50 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Some people say that, sure, but they almost always just say "flu shot". Google says "vaccine" very commonly is used to refer to flu shots. 50 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Vaccines work. Shots are just immunity boosters. The flu "shot" is a "booster shot" at the very best. You STILL don't understand the difference between virus vaccines and bacterial vaccines. I guess you never will cause you've been told many times and you STILL don't get it. 50 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: It's not 'safe' at all. Safe is safe. Kinda safe is not safe. Safe means a very SMALL PERCENTAGE of dangerous side effects. AKA statistically a much greater chance of living than dying from COVID. Like a million times greater. 50 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: If it was safe then young men in Sweden, Finland and Norway wouldn't be banned from taking it, dummy. They're NOT banned, DUMMY. Covid-19: Sweden, Norway, and Finland suspend use of Moderna vaccine in young people “as a precaution” Quote Sweden, Norway, and Finland suspended the use of Moderna’s covid-19 vaccine on 7 October after reports of possible rare side effects. The pause “for precautionary reasons” in Sweden and Finland concerns anyone born 1991 or later. In Finland, under 30s will now be offered the Pfizer vaccine as their second dose. Swedish officials are still discussing the second dose for the 81 000 under 30s who received a first dose of Moderna. In Norway officials have suspended the use of Moderna’s vaccine in those under 18, advising that they are offered the Pfizer vaccine instead. Last I heard, there were less than 10 instances. AKA very rare. 50 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: If you don't need it, and its not safe, don't take it. It's very safe. 50 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Who cares? I never said anything about viruses vs bacteria. That's your own private conversation with yourself. You keep comparing COVID virus vaccines with OLDER bacterial vaccines. Of course, you never specified what you're talking about, but I can deduce that from your references. 50 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: If you wanna make the case that vaccines don't work against viruses because they mutate too fast, then stop acting like there's a covid vaccine. There's not, both by my definition and yours. I didn't say they don't work. That's YOUR SCHTICK. The FACT is, they are weaker against NEW VARIANTS for which they've NOT BEEN TESTED. 50 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: The mechanisms and the statistics are not connected. They most certainly are. And the fact that you don't recognize that is why you keep drawing erroneous conclusions. 50 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: The mechanisms are an attempt, and the statistics are the result. The mechanisms affect the statistics profoundly. 50 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: robotard: "Well they almost survived, so it was a partial success hyuk hyuk. *puh...TING!* Dat's a bullseye." YOU look really RETARDED when you write like a child. 50 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: The whole farce of "The only reason deaths are up by 30% is because infections are up by 500%" is NOT AN INDICATOR OF PARTIAL SUCCESS! With 85% of the country vaccinated, there's no way that infections should be soaring. Unless a LOT of your population is really reckless, and like you didn't get vaxxed. People who run around in public with full blown COVID can infect a LOT MORE PEOPLE. 50 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: I don't have have to have a PhD to know what we were promised. Fauci lobbed words like "herd immunity", "safe", "effective", he said "you don't have to worry". The stats have to support ^^THAT^^, ^^UP THERE^^. If they don't, then the jabs are not what we were told they'd be. Get it? They don't have to meet a watered-down version of success that's entirely based on "some swabs we have say that a lot more people were infected. Trust the swabs." More people died, stupid. We vaxed 85% of the population in 2021, and in 2022 there were 30% more deaths. This is how pain relief medicine could work, by your standards: Stat: "95% of people who take the Pfizer/Moderna headache pills report that their headaches got worse." Robo: "Digesting that large of a pill in your stomach makes your headache 250% worse, but the medicinal ingredients reduce the total amount of pain to only 130% of what it was initially, so technically, the medicine is relieving pain." Bottom line: Only vaxed people were running around doing whatever they wanted in late 2021 and the first few months of 2022 while the unvaxed were still locked down. They were even fired. Deaths went up when 85% of us were vaxed and only the vaxed were allowed to be out and about. Shove your excuses, dummy. More deaths is bad, less deaths is good. Just learn that. The US had 1 MILLION excess deaths from COVID during the pandemic. According to the graph in the Goddess thread (you were shown), death rates across the world were inversely proportional to the percent of vaxxed in the nations. Of course Goddess being like you, misinterpreted the graph and drew the OPPOSITE conclusion. Edited January 16, 2024 by robosmith 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted January 16, 2024 Report Posted January 16, 2024 2 hours ago, Rebound said: Cause you say so. Yes. By Gawd...he's learning. 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: Bottom line: Only vaxed people were running around doing whatever they wanted in late 2021 and the first few months of 2022 while the unvaxed were still locked down. They were even fired. Deaths went up when 85% of us were vaxed and only the vaxed were allowed to be out and about. Shove your excuses, dummy. More deaths is bad, less deaths is good. Just learn that. This is true. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Legato Posted January 16, 2024 Report Posted January 16, 2024 3 hours ago, robosmith said: What's a "T Roll"? You mean TROLL? That's your department. I will, and have, continued to wear an N95 mask on the airliners cause COVID and RSV infections are on the rise here. Quote
WestCanMan Posted January 16, 2024 Author Report Posted January 16, 2024 3 hours ago, robosmith said: I will, and have, continued to wear an N95 mask on the airliners cause COVID and RSV infections are on the rise here. 🤣 I KNEW you were that guy! You're wearing an N95 to protect yourself from covid and RSV, but you've probably got 7 covid "vaccines" in you by now, and this is RSV: Quote Respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) is a common respiratory virus that causes a mild illness with cold-like symptoms. It's so common that most children have been infected with the virus by age 2. Do you and your wife still follow Bonnie Henry's sex guidelines as well? Do you do it through a glory hole 🤣 Something tells me there's not much "glory" there 😂 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
eyeball Posted January 16, 2024 Report Posted January 16, 2024 4 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Buddy, that's 2024, not 2022. I didn't say a word about covid in 2024, The vax-Nazis could just tell us every year you said. 4 hours ago, WestCanMan said: and literally every single word that I said about covid in 2020-2022 still stands as 100% true. Vax Nazis? Bonafide goose-stepping Nazis. Literally....100% true you say. You're literally a loon. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Hodad Posted January 16, 2024 Report Posted January 16, 2024 4 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Get your head out of your ass, dummy. If you measure vax efficacy by the 'incidence outcome' or straight death count, and deaths still end up being 30% higher, it's a failure either way. Either the deaths went up with the same number of infections, or 5 times as many people got infected to result in 30% more deaths, but 30% more people still died. A failure is a failure is a failure. Does it make the vax sound better to you if I start saying "5x as many people get infected now that 85% of Canadians are vaxed, but only 30% more die"? In case you forgot, the only reason we were all sold into vax-slavery was to keep from dying. "If you take the vaccine, you don't have to worry about getting covid." Both Fauci and Rochelle Wolenski said that. MSM echoed that in Canada and the US. That's the bill of goods we were sold. Now you tell me: is "death" a fate worth worrying about? Because vaxed people still have to worry about that, a lot. No. You are as thick as a brick. The efficacy of a vaccine is judged by life and health saved, not by death count. A hypothetical vaccine is 98% effective at preventing death. In the first year of release 100 people contract the virus and two die. In the second year, 10,000 people contract the virus and 200 people die. Dummies will complain that the vax is a failure because the death count went up. People with even a basic understanding of statistics will tell you that the death count going up provides you with zero information with regard to efficacy. Still 98%. And yes, you fool, a 500% increase in infections against a 30% increase in deaths is a fantastic success. Apples to apples, people who were unvaccinated were 5-6 times more likely to be hospitalized and 5-6 times more likely to die. Only an imbecile would NOT want that advantage. I'm sorry this modern miracle of rapid vaccine development didn't meet your personal standards or give you happy feelings, but by the math it is of significant benefit and gave smart, sane people a survival advantage over the kooks. That's what we call a win-win. Quote
robosmith Posted January 16, 2024 Report Posted January 16, 2024 2 hours ago, WestCanMan said: 🤣 I KNEW you were that guy! You're wearing an N95 to protect yourself from covid and RSV, but you've probably got 7 covid "vaccines" in you by now, and this is RSV: Do you and your wife still follow Bonnie Henry's sex guidelines as well? Do you do it through a glory hole 🤣 Something tells me there's not much "glory" there 😂 Nope. Don't have 7 and BOTH RSP and COVID are on the rise HERE, like I said. Strike 3, you're out. Quote
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