Have You Listened Lately to What Trump Is Saying? He is becoming frighteningly clear about what he wants.

[Legato]

10 hours ago, robosmith said:

Really? If you can't hit a 3 ft target with 22 rifle, you have no business holding one.

Think of blast radius and dropped from a great height, There is a subtle difference between a rifle and a bomb.

[Legato]

10 hours ago, robosmith said:

Poll numbers play no role in Federal court cases. It's the evidence stupid.

Yes the evidence is stupid. Thank you for that.

[Rebound]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

So my suggestion would be to stop politicizing the justice system.

Trump did not start any insurrections. In fact, there was no insurrection. Watch the evidence available now.

As for Georgia...that's going nowhere. Nor is this NY BS.

The only thing the justice dept. can reasonably prove is that Trump has classified docs and was slow-walking turning them over. I believe Barry did that exact thing?

Sadly for you, a  court of appeals has ruled that Donald Trump DID participate in an insurrection. So here again: You Make Up Fantasies. Because the way American Justice works is you present FACTS to JUDGES and JURIE in accordance with LAW and the CONSTITUTION. 

You simply cannot accept that America is a nation of law. You repeatedly invent your own truth. You want something to be a certain way, and then declare that it is so. Back in the 1800’s, there was a crazy man in San Francisco, who called himself Emperor Norton. He decreed that a bridge shall be built to connect San Francisco and Oakland. You’re that guy. You just invent your own decrees, devoid of all reality.

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Hillary-Billary needed to be prosecuted in accordance with LAW.

Hunter Biden needed to be prosecuted in accordance with LAW.

Joe Biden needed to be prosecuted in accordance with LAW.

Apparently the LAW only applies to those selected individuals Libbies dislike. That's known as politicizing the courts.

You wanna play hardball...we're more than willing to play by your rules.

Are you?

"We're"? YOU have NO STANDING in the US political OR legal system. You are foreign interference in US elections at BEST.

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

So my suggestion would be to stop politicizing the justice system.

It's NOT. You are confused because it's Trump who has declared HIS INTENT to politicize the justice system.

Joe has declared HIS INTENT to stay out of it and maintain DoJ independence. Where do you get ^this crap?

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Trump did not start any insurrections. In fact, there was no insurrection. Watch the evidence available now.

Trumps insurrection ATTEMPT FAILED. That is STILL a CRIME. Duh

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

As for Georgia...that's going nowhere. Nor is this NY BS.

^More stupid predictions from you. LMAO

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

The only thing the justice dept. can reasonably prove is that Trump has classified docs and was slow-walking turning them over. I believe Barry did that exact thing?

He OPENLY DEFIED a SUBPOENA, LYING in WRITING about not having more documents.

And there are witnesses to his CLAIM saying, "they're mine."

3 hours ago, Legato said:

Think of blast radius and dropped from a great height, There is a subtle difference between a rifle and a bomb.

Think of "precision guided munitions."

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Legato said:

Yes the evidence is stupid. Thank you for that.

Thanks for demonstrating your inability to READ.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

Sadly for you, a  court of appeals has ruled that Donald Trump DID participate in an insurrection. So here again: You Make Up Fantasies. Because the way American Justice works is you present FACTS to JUDGES and JURIE in accordance with LAW and the CONSTITUTION. 

You simply cannot accept that America is a nation of law. You repeatedly invent your own truth. You want something to be a certain way, and then declare that it is so. Back in the 1800’s, there was a crazy man in San Francisco, who called himself Emperor Norton. He decreed that a bridge shall be built to connect San Francisco and Oakland. You’re that guy. You just invent your own decrees, devoid of all reality.

I doubt gnat man invents his wild fantasies. He listened to Carlson's and probably now Watter's. Maybe both now.

[Legato]

23 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Thanks for demonstrating your inability to READ.

Your welcome, although read is okay but READ will make your eyes pop out.

Think of precision guided eyesight..

[robosmith]

22 minutes ago, Legato said:

Your welcome, although read is okay but READ will make your eyes pop out.

Think of precision guided eyesight..

I did. And it caught your attention as PLANNED.

[Nationalist]

3 hours ago, Rebound said:

Sadly for you, a  court of appeals has ruled that Donald Trump DID participate in an insurrection. So here again: You Make Up Fantasies. Because the way American Justice works is you present FACTS to JUDGES and JURIE in accordance with LAW and the CONSTITUTION. 

You simply cannot accept that America is a nation of law. You repeatedly invent your own truth. You want something to be a certain way, and then declare that it is so. Back in the 1800’s, there was a crazy man in San Francisco, who called himself Emperor Norton. He decreed that a bridge shall be built to connect San Francisco and Oakland. You’re that guy. You just invent your own decrees, devoid of all reality.

America WAS a nation of laws. The Trump happened and all that got tossed out the window. Sadly for you, Trump will never be convicted of insurrection because he didn't hold an insurrection. He held a political rally.

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

"We're"? YOU have NO STANDING in the US political OR legal system. You are foreign interference in US elections at BEST.

Then why are you bothering with me?

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

It's NOT. You are confused because it's Trump who has declared HIS INTENT to politicize the justice system.

Joe has declared HIS INTENT to stay out of it and maintain DoJ independence. Where do you get ^this crap?

Trumps insurrection ATTEMPT FAILED. That is STILL a CRIME. Duh

^More stupid predictions from you. LMAO

He OPENLY DEFIED a SUBPOENA, LYING in WRITING about not having more documents.

And there are witnesses to his CLAIM saying, "they're mine."

Ya gits wut ya pays fer sonny. Personally...I hope Trump gets elected just so he can turn the justice system on the Democrats. And if that happens...remember that you Libbies set the rules of conduct.

[robosmith]

27 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

America WAS a nation of laws. The Trump happened and all that got tossed out the window. Sadly for you, Trump will never be convicted of insurrection because he didn't hold an insurrection. He held a political rally.

And during that rally, he commanded his minions to "march to the capitol" and "stop the steal" during the EC vote count/certification.

Unfortunate you STILL don't understand that command was ILLEGAL, despite all the MAGA CULT which were convicted.

27 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Then why are you bothering with me?

Because other people read your BULLSHIT and might believe it true. Like ^this post above.

 

[robosmith]

27 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Ya gits wut ya pays fer sonny. Personally...I hope Trump gets elected just so he can turn the justice system on the Democrats. And if that happens...remember that you Libbies set the rules of conduct.

The "rules of conduct" are Grand Juries indicting and court trials convicting. I'm entirely comfortable with that.

But NOT POTUS inserting HIMSELF in the process for the POLITICAL "RETRIBUTION" he PROMISED to get elected.

But you've been CONNED by Trump into believing Joe Biden has done that with NO OTHER EVIDENCE it happened. ?

[Nationalist]

32 minutes ago, robosmith said:

And during that rally, he commanded his minions to "march to the capitol" and "stop the steal" during the EC vote count/certification.

Unfortunate you STILL don't understand that command was ILLEGAL, despite all the MAGA CULT which were convicted.

Because other people read your BULLSHIT and might believe it true. Like ^this post above.

 

And I quote...

"I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."

oh and robo-bot...most rational people do believe much of what I post, because I don't tend to post sopping wet bullshit. 

[robosmith]

21 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

And I quote...

"I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."

oh and robo-bot...most rational people do believe much of what I post, because I don't tend to post sopping wet bullshit. 

That's pretty much ALL you post here.

The MAGA CULT knew their "voice" would not "stop the steal" or do anything to the EC vote count/certification, let alone live up to "fight like hell."

They understood the Trump DOUBLE TALK which FOOLED YOU. LMAO

If Trump really wanted them to be "peaceful" he would have commanded them to go home when HE SAW THE VIOLENCE THAT WAS HAPPENING. Like he did AFTER IT FAILED.

[Nationalist]

13 minutes ago, robosmith said:

That's pretty much ALL you post here.

The MAGA CULT knew their "voice" would not "stop the steal" or do anything to the EC vote count/certification, let alone live up to "fight like hell."

They understood the Trump DOUBLE TALK which FOOLED YOU. LMAO

If Trump really wanted them to be "peaceful" he would have commanded them to go home when HE SAW THE VIOLENCE THAT WAS HAPPENING. Like he did AFTER IT FAILED.

He sent a message for everyone to be peaceful and to break it up. I know you desperately need to warp that to suit your whims, but your whims do not reflect reality.

They're sopping wet bullshit.

[OftenWrong]

8 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

If the US fails in its commitment to the Ukraine, it sends a message that the fine words of American "patriots" about standing up for freedom against tyranny is just a load of worthless crap.

Being dogmatic about things and escalating the conflict to a perpetual state of war is a load of worthless crap as well. 

So is, denying the right to a cease-fire.

And if after that you still believe that the US/ Joe Biden is concerned about fairness and justice for all mankind, you may want to buy this watch.

⌚

 

 

[robosmith]

12 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

He sent a message for everyone to be peaceful and to break it up. I know you desperately need to warp that to suit your whims, but your whims do not reflect reality.

They're sopping wet bullshit.

This is what happened: he tweeted "stay peaceful" almost an hour AFTER the broke into the Capitol.

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Shortly after 2 p.m.

Protesters break windows and climb into the Capitol. They open doors for others to follow.

 

 

A member of a pro-Trump mob shatters a window with his fist from inside the Capitol after breaking into it on Jan. 6, 2021.

Jon Cherry/Getty Images

Secret Service agents whisk Pence off the Senate floor.

A few minutes later, Pelosi is ushered off the House floor.

2:20 p.m.

The Senate is called to recess, and the House is called to recess shortly after.

The building goes into lockdown.

Around this same time, Capitol Police officer Eugene Goodman saves the Senate from a very close call, waving Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah, to safety and then diverting protesters who were steps from the Senate chamber.

2:24 p.m.

Trump tweets: "Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution."

He continues with more baseless claims about a fraudulent election.

2:38 p.m.

Trump tweets again, calling for support of the Capitol Police and law enforcement. He urges people to "stay peaceful."

But at that moment, inside the Capitol, the riot continues to unfold.

Not until HOURS LATER, did he told them to go home and they're "special people." Probably meaning retarded enough to break the law for HIM.

Of course you're IGNORANT of the FACT that many of the "special people" testified in court that Trump told them to commit those crimes.

[Queenmandy85]

President Trump's culpability in the Jan. 6 events has not yet been established in court. He has a right to be presumed innocent unless proven guilty in court. 

[Hodad]

13 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

President Trump's culpability in the Jan. 6 events has not yet been established in court. He has a right to be presumed innocent unless proven guilty in court. 

Eh, the court will determine his legal liability, but I think that as humans who watched him stoke that fire for weeks, then command a crowd to go down to the capitol with him right now and "stop the steal" or they wouldn't have a country anymore it's perfectly reasonable to assign some blame. 

[Rebound]

On 12/11/2023 at 6:23 PM, robosmith said:

Precision bombing that precisely targets ONLY fighters who invaded Israel would be acceptable retaliation.

Such precision is impossible.  
 

Also, today The NY Times finally stated the truth; That casualty figures provided by Hamas do not distinguish combatant deaths from civilian deaths.

 

[Rebound]

14 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

President Trump's culpability in the Jan. 6 events has not yet been established in court. He has a right to be presumed innocent unless proven guilty in court. 

A Colorado court has ruled that Trump “engaged in an insurrection” on January 6. 

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/11/17/politics/trump-colorado-ballot-14th-amendment-insurrection/index.html

Edited December 13, 2023 by Rebound

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Hodad said:

Eh, the court will determine his legal liability, but I think that as humans who watched him stoke that fire for weeks, then command a crowd to go down to the capitol with him right now and "stop the steal" or they wouldn't have a country anymore it's perfectly reasonable to assign some blame. 

Trouble is, "humans" who only watch FOS LIES don't know HALF of what happened, esp the parts BEFORE Jan 6th when Trump et al were conspiring to plan it like on Dec 18th.

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Rebound said:

Such precision is impossible.  

Such precision weapons minimized civilian deaths in Libya when gaDaffy was overthrown.

But I am glad that they are kinda taking my suggestion about the tunnels, though I believe it would be more humane to use anesthetic gas than flooding with seawater. The flooding will kill the hostages which Hamas won't bother saving before they save themselves. If they were unconscious in the tunnels they might be apprehended. When they exit from the flooding, it may not be known where. If they were smart, they have rooms constructed to not be flooded.

3 hours ago, Rebound said:

Also, today The NY Times finally stated the truth; That casualty figures provided by Hamas do not distinguish combatant deaths from civilian deaths.

So the estimated deaths is reduced by 2%, which is the ratio of Hamas fighters to the population. Maybe 4% if the IDF had better than indiscriminate targeting.

Edited December 13, 2023 by robosmith

[Rebound]

30 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Such precision weapons minimized civilian deaths in Libya when gaDaffy was overthrown.

But I am glad that they are kinda taking my suggestion about the tunnels, though I believe it would be more humane to use anesthetic gas than flooding with seawater. The flooding will kill the hostages which Hamas won't bother saving before they save themselves. If they were unconscious in the tunnels they might be apprehended. When they exit from the flooding, it may not be known where. If they were smart, they have rooms constructed to not be flooded.

So the estimated deaths is reduced by 2%, which is the ratio of Hamas fighters to the population. Maybe 4% if the IDF had better than indiscriminate targeting.

Total estimated casualties of the Libyan Civil War are 15,000. 

Estimated casualties of the Iraq War range from 150,000 to 400,000. 

Israel does not benefit from needlessly killing civilians, although maybe the knuckleheads who were dancing in the streets rejoicing after the October 7 massacres might think twice about how wise that was.  Now, I have posed a simple question to you in another thread: Where is the map? Where are the boundaries which the Palestinians will accept as a permanent and peaceful resolution of this conflict?