Have You Listened Lately to What Trump Is Saying? He is becoming frighteningly clear about what he wants.

[Nationalist]

On 12/19/2023 at 8:37 PM, Caswell Thomas said:

I AM sorry, clearly you feel my over 25 years of personal work experience in actuarial insurance and the fact that my family founded and owned four insurance companies makes you more qualified in determining bank is right in this matter! If my family had conducted business this way, Trumps way, we, not Trump would have had the FIVE business Bankruptcies Trump declared when he FAILED by using these methods. His  cheating, lying, money laundering, RICO violating, tax law violations not to mention banking law and financial agency laws, his violations of U. S. Treasury and multiple State Agency laws as well in accumulating his "assets" when in fact he did so by entirely unlawful means, we should just sweep under the table? No, he and everyone involved are criminals including whatever bank and lending officials he bribed or threatened to force them to take such a risk on their depositors money . So no harm done? Bull! 

Your family founded 4 insurance agencies and you failed to learn the legalities surrounding insurance?

Gee...they must be proud of you.

[Nationalist]

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

The FACT is, convicting Trump in the civil case could easily lead to a DIFFERENT criminal case. Maybe in another state like NJ.

She says while spittle drips down her chinny chin chin.

[Nationalist]

On 12/17/2023 at 2:42 AM, robosmith said:

And by "most people," you mean YOU. Because you believe the fantasies you post here, that you heard on FOS LIES.

After them losing $800M for LYING, rational people would stop believing them.

Just remember, Trump LOST the election because he LOST 60+ court cases where he TRIED to prove FRAUD, and FAILED.

giggle...

Your terrified aren't you. Good. You wear it like an old pair of jeans.

It's now obvious that Biden has no chance of beating any Republican.

Most of your Libbie cheats have been shut down.

Biden's reign has been a flop of epic proportions. The world will be lucky to get to November without a full fledged world war erupting.

Trump will likely be the next POTUS. Enjoy that.

[impartialobserver]

Trump... is there a better example of verbal diarrhea in recent history.

 

[Hodad]

3 hours ago, impartialobserver said:

Trump... is there a better example of verbal diarrhea in recent history.

 

His fans have mistaken it for a protein packed chocolate super smoothie. They keep saying it's delicious. Can't get enough. 🤷‍♀️

[impartialobserver]

4 minutes ago, Hodad said:

His fans have mistaken it for a protein packed chocolate super smoothie. They keep saying it's delicious. Can't get enough. 🤷‍♀️

Oh.. damn that was good. 

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, impartialobserver said:

Trump... is there a better example of verbal diarrhea in recent history.

 

 

2 hours ago, Hodad said:

His fans have mistaken it for a protein packed chocolate super smoothie. They keep saying it's delicious. Can't get enough. 🤷‍♀️

Yeah.  Just look at  the posts here.

Trump hatred gets 'eaten up ' just as fast  or faster.

Sorry - but as an outside observer i find the democrats arguably worse and i find the left's supporters are complete and unmitigated hypocrites. Not by a lot, but for sure.

The things the left are saying to justify their weaponizing the courts for political purposes is every bit as odious as what trump says.  Joe's recent statement that we don't need courts in trump's case, that his guilt is 'self evident' when any impartial person can see that it IS a matter for the courts is particularly disturbing, and not uncommon.  We see calls to set aside the judicial process here constantly.

Lock her up pissed off the dems to no end but they had zero issue with going with lock him up.   They know they're in the wrong to the point where there are many inches of text being spent on how the republicans and trump will get 'payback' for what they've done.

It's not trump - ALL of you people have lost your damn minds and objectivity to a point where your very democracy is threatened.  Sorry kids - there are no white hats here.  Each side is worse than the other, and i doubt your democracy will survive it in the long run without the collapse of the country from it's position as a world leader.

[Rebound]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

 

Yeah.  Just look at  the posts here.

Trump hatred gets 'eaten up ' just as fast  or faster.

Sorry - but as an outside observer i find the democrats arguably worse and i find the left's supporters are complete and unmitigated hypocrites. Not by a lot, but for sure.

The things the left are saying to justify their weaponizing the courts for political purposes is every bit as odious as what trump says.  Joe's recent statement that we don't need courts in trump's case, that his guilt is 'self evident' when any impartial person can see that it IS a matter for the courts is particularly disturbing, and not uncommon.  We see calls to set aside the judicial process here constantly.

Lock her up pissed off the dems to no end but they had zero issue with going with lock him up.   They know they're in the wrong to the point where there are many inches of text being spent on how the republicans and trump will get 'payback' for what they've done.

It's not trump - ALL of you people have lost your damn minds and objectivity to a point where your very democracy is threatened.  Sorry kids - there are no white hats here.  Each side is worse than the other, and i doubt your democracy will survive it in the long run without the collapse of the country from it's position as a world leader.

The man who lacks objectivity here is you.  
 

When Donald Trump lead chants of “Lock Her Up,” his crowds cheered. Now that the shoe’s on the other foot, they’re whining like babies. They can dish it out, but they can’t take it.  Boo Hoo, snowflakes.  

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

The man who lacks objectivity here is you.  
 

 

Said like a true weenie on willing to identify and address their own issues. Other than the sheer comedic value it doesn't matter to me in the slightest two wins. So if anything I am a Nicely impartial observer

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When Donald Trump lead chants of “Lock Her Up,” his crowds cheered. Now that the shoe’s on the other foot, they’re whining like babies. They can dish it out, but they can’t take it.  Boo Hoo, snowflakes.  

Ah, so in other words your defense is to attack others for doing what you are doing yourself in order to hide your own hypocrisy. They at least have a valid reason, they said to lock her up but once actually in power Trump said no we're not going to behave that way.

Democrats said the same thing after that and meant it. They are bound and determined to turn the law against Trump inappropriately. The repiblican supporters must feel like complete losers for coming to their senses and backing down when trump told them to. I'm sure they won't make THAT mistake again.

You seriously need to get your heads out of your asses as a country and put your democracy and your Freedoms ahead of this pathetic political squabbling. The rhetoric on both sides should be unacceptable to everyone

Edited December 30, 2023 by CdnFox

[Nationalist]

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Said like a true weenie on willing to identify and address their own issues. Other than the sheer comedic value it doesn't matter to me in the slightest two wins. So if anything I am a Nicely impartial observer

Ah, so in other words your defense is to attack others for doing what you are doing yourself in order to hide your own hypocrisy. They at least have a valid reason, they said to lock her up but once actually in power Trump said no we're not going to behave that way.

Democrats said the same thing after that and meant it. They are bound and determined to turn the law against Trump inappropriately. The repiblican supporters must feel like complete losers for coming to their senses and backing down when trump told them to. I'm sure they won't make THAT mistake again.

You seriously need to get your heads out of your asses as a country and put your democracy and your Freedoms ahead of this pathetic political squabbling. The rhetoric on both sides should be unacceptable to everyone

Even though I'm likely as guilty of the rhetoric as any Libbie, I do like your reasoning here. It's sound and level headed.

American democracy is under seige and it will continue to be as long as Democrats insist on abusing the law to rig the next election. 

[Rebound]

On 12/28/2023 at 8:44 AM, Nationalist said:

Your family founded 4 insurance agencies and you failed to learn the legalities surrounding insurance?

Gee...they must be proud of you.

Trump has already been found guilty of fraud in New York. His CFO and top lawyer both went to prison. 

[Fluffypants]

42 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Trump has already been found guilty of fraud in New York. His CFO and top lawyer both went to prison. 

A nutcase liberal just decided he was guilty of fraud with no trial based off his own valuations even though there was no victim, the banks that loaned to him don't even believe it was fraud.

I love the insurance fraud case where Trump actually paid more for his insurance than he should of based on his own valuations of the properties, made 0 claims against said properties but somehow it was fraud on the person who paid for the insurance.

[Rebound]

24 minutes ago, Fluffypants said:

A nutcase liberal just decided he was guilty of fraud with no trial based off his own valuations even though there was no victim, the banks that loaned to him don't even believe it was fraud.

I love the insurance fraud case where Trump actually paid more for his insurance than he should of based on his own valuations of the properties, made 0 claims against said properties but somehow it was fraud on the person who paid for the insurance.

The law is the law.  
If you drive 100 miles an hour and hurt no-one, is your defense that there were no victims? 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Even though I'm likely as guilty of the rhetoric as any Libbie, I do like your reasoning here. It's sound and level headed.

American democracy is under seige and it will continue to be as long as Democrats insist on abusing the law to rig the next election. 

Well it's one thing for us on a political forum to have a little fun engaging in rhetoric and "my guy can beat up your guy' and all that fun here and there, but its another thing when the politicians do it.
 

And we're seeing it creep into our politics too, and it's largely being driven by the liberals. The ndp isn't nearly that bad, and the cpc returns the liberals comments, but when you get a prime minister who calls other members across the isle nazis, and canadians who disagree with him  people who just 'take up space' and claim their bigots and misogynists for their views on a vaccine,  gives the middle finger to the opposition in the house, etc etc...  that sets the tone.

Fortunately Canadians seem to be saying "enough of your crap" and are set to vote the scumbag out.  A little 'politicking' is one thing but we should all be against severely divisive politicians and political parties.

[Rebound]

26 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Well it's one thing for us on a political forum to have a little fun engaging in rhetoric and "my guy can beat up your guy' and all that fun here and there, but its another thing when the politicians do it.
 

And we're seeing it creep into our politics too, and it's largely being driven by the liberals. The ndp isn't nearly that bad, and the cpc returns the liberals comments, but when you get a prime minister who calls other members across the isle nazis, and canadians who disagree with him  people who just 'take up space' and claim their bigots and misogynists for their views on a vaccine,  gives the middle finger to the opposition in the house, etc etc...  that sets the tone.

Fortunately Canadians seem to be saying "enough of your crap" and are set to vote the scumbag out.  A little 'politicking' is one thing but we should all be against severely divisive politicians and political parties.

You aren’t against Trump, and that guy’s the most divisive politician in the world. 

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

Trump has already been found guilty of fraud in New York. His CFO and top lawyer both went to prison. 

As if that will make any difference...or even stand on appeal.

[Nationalist]

50 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Well it's one thing for us on a political forum to have a little fun engaging in rhetoric and "my guy can beat up your guy' and all that fun here and there, but its another thing when the politicians do it.
 

And we're seeing it creep into our politics too, and it's largely being driven by the liberals. The ndp isn't nearly that bad, and the cpc returns the liberals comments, but when you get a prime minister who calls other members across the isle nazis, and canadians who disagree with him  people who just 'take up space' and claim their bigots and misogynists for their views on a vaccine,  gives the middle finger to the opposition in the house, etc etc...  that sets the tone.

Fortunately Canadians seem to be saying "enough of your crap" and are set to vote the scumbag out.  A little 'politicking' is one thing but we should all be against severely divisive politicians and political parties.

The messaging of both our Little Potato and Brandon has been nasty. I remember the 2015 election. I remember Trump making personal attacks on people. I remember Clinton calling conservatives "a basket of deplorables". I remember Little Potato waxing away about unity. Brandon too. Then they insulted conservatives and even accused them of being terrorists.

Hmm...

Insult a person directly...insult half the people in your nation. People a leader can't hope to lead, after such sweeping accusations. Quite socially divisive. As if...on purpose?

[Fluffypants]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

The law is the law.  
If you drive 100 miles an hour and hurt no-one, is your defense that there were no victims? 

The difference is value is subjective and driving 100 miles per hour is objective. Who is to determine what something is worth, if 2 parties agree that it is worth that who is to say it isn't.

Banks don't generally take your word for it when they determine if the collateral is worth the risk.

Also people have shown that smaller properties in the area go for much much more that current judges valuation of the property.

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, Rebound said:

You aren’t against Trump, and that guy’s the most divisive politician in the world. 

You mistake my perspective.  I don't approve of trump OR biden politically  -  but i also don't care. They're not my political leaders.   I kind of root for trump a little because to be blunt he's the more amusing of the two and we had 4 wonderful years where the late night hosts basically had their jobs done for them.

And trump is demonstrably better for the economy and a strong us economy benefits canada, and biden is more 'protectionist' over the economy which is bad for everyone including canada.

So i'm not really for OR against trump in the sense that you mean.

But i have to say i find the hypocrisy of the libs and their supporters a little distasteful and i do enjoy pointing it out a bit. 

As i've said before - i do think trump should face trial over the docments issue (which is one of the only legit charges being brought against him) and he should have to answer for his behavior -  but i ALSO felt hillary should have stood trial and they completely re-interpreted the law to let her off.  So - my take is both off or both on trial. 

The democrat take is that it is basically the same as eating  a live baby to say hillary was guilty of anything, but its intolerable to think that trump isn't 100 percent guilty and should stand trial as a formality before being locked up for the crime  he obviously committed and he should be GREATFUL that they even pretended to give him one before shipping him off 

Biden?  not a hint of any wrongdoing despite evidence and testimony.  Trump? Clearly colluded with the russians and together hatched an evil plan that stole an election. Despite no evidence.

You see? I don't support trump's rhetoric, or his lying, or his aggressive behaviour or even the inevitable hell he's going to bring on his opponents if he wins (which is about 50 50 at this point).  But - to me the dem lies and hypcrisy and threats and more importantly misuse of the law to subvert democracy is even worse. 

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, Fluffypants said:

The difference is value is subjective and driving 100 miles per hour is objective. Who is to determine what something is worth, if 2 parties agree that it is worth that who is to say it isn't.

Banks don't generally take your word for it when they determine if the collateral is worth the risk.

Also people have shown that smaller properties in the area go for much much more that current judges valuation of the property.

Oh let's be clear, the banks are not party to this. Nobody anywhere is actually claiming any injury. The prosecutors were able to obtain documents which Trump gave the banks Indicating his net worth when he was borrowing a loan. That does not mean the banks relied on that information in the slightest. The loans were repaid on time and in full and as a million Realtors have testified you can't actually determine the value of something as unique as that property. The case hinges on the fact that he misrepresented the square footage which may very well be true but to be frank is brutally common in the real estate industry and doesn't necessarily mean it wasn't worth what he said it was.

The case is a total Witch Hunt. There are no criminal implications so all they are trying to do is hurt him financially. Nobody suffered any harm, nobody was deceived, nobody is making any such claim. The prosecutors just found something that they could go after him for technically.

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, Nationalist said:

The messaging of both our Little Potato and Brandon has been nasty. I remember the 2015 election. I remember Trump making personal attacks on people. I remember Clinton calling conservatives "a basket of deplorables". I remember Little Potato waxing away about unity. Brandon too. Then they insulted conservatives and even accused them of being terrorists.

Hmm...

Insult a person directly...insult half the people in your nation. People a leader can't hope to lead, after such sweeping accusations. Quite socially divisive. As if...on purpose?

Yeah.

And the problem is that when the conversation starts to degrade it's too late to complain.

Clinton calls americans who support trump "The deplorables".     THen when republicans shout back that they're all groomers they GASP!!! GASP at how low the dialogue has sunk!!! (how could it come to this? Snif! *wipes tear*)

The dems bend the law to go after trump.' Which gives trump license to bend the law to go after the dems, and on it goes.

In canada i've been saying to the libs for years that if they tolerate justin's corruption (and they did) then sooner or later the conservatives will stop playing by the rules and use corruption and dirty tricks to hold power and they won't be able to say much.

[Nationalist]

10 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Yeah.

And the problem is that when the conversation starts to degrade it's too late to complain.

Clinton calls americans who support trump "The deplorables".     THen when republicans shout back that they're all groomers they GASP!!! GASP at how low the dialogue has sunk!!! (how could it come to this? Snif! *wipes tear*)

The dems bend the law to go after trump.' Which gives trump license to bend the law to go after the dems, and on it goes.

In canada i've been saying to the libs for years that if they tolerate justin's corruption (and they did) then sooner or later the conservatives will stop playing by the rules and use corruption and dirty tricks to hold power and they won't be able to say much.

Yup. Here's the problem as I see it.

Here in Canuckland, we elected an entitled little brat as PM. I really think that's the long and the short of it. Justin just doesn't possess any ability to fathom, or put up with, conflicting points of view. That and, I honestly believe that Justin is a coward. I also believe being Canada's PM is not his ultimate goal. To him, being PM is a stepping stone to his daddy's dream of leading the UN. Hence all the insufferable virtue signaling.

In the US, their entire political system has been bought and paid for. Then came a guy who didn't need the money, and who promised to put an end to the games. To "drain the swamp". This was and still is completely intolerable to the established politicos. They didn't just need to stop him, they needed to destroy him. Nothing was or is beneath them, in order to "get Trump".

In both nations however, the public has finally seen through the facade of politics, and demand real leadership. For the people. Not in spite of the people. 

Here in Canuckland, we'll have a change in Polievre. The election will get nasty as Justin realizes his dreams are being burnt. But the election should go off relatively normally.

Down in The States though, they're facing real danger. The established politicos there will not allow some upstart to expose their arrangements and snub them openly. The corporations who buy these established politicos, will not allow their control slip from them. It's quite literally the people vs. the establishment. 

So while we're in for a bumpy government transition, the Americans are flirting with open rebellion. 

Can such a disaster be avoided in The States? That depends on "We the people" as it were. Do the American public have the balls to reject the lies and deciept? Or is destroying the status quo so scary to them, that they elect more of the same ol' same old?

We will see but...I'm praying for rejection.

Edited December 31, 2023 by Nationalist

[robosmith]

On 12/28/2023 at 8:47 AM, Nationalist said:

She says while spittle drips down her chinny chin chin.

^Infantile intellectual bankruptcy. Again.

If all you got is bullshit, why bother?

[CdnFox]

11 hours ago, robosmith said:

^Infantile intellectual bankruptcy. Again.

If all you got is bullshit, why bother?

What the...... My irony meter just blew up!

[OftenWrong]

On 12/29/2023 at 6:44 PM, CdnFox said:

Trump hatred gets 'eaten up ' just as fast  or faster.

Yep.

 

On 12/29/2023 at 4:05 PM, impartialobserver said:

Oh.. damn that was good. 

 

Is like a slurpee to these guys.