Elon Musk is an antisemite. What can anyone do about it

[Michael Hardner]

3 hours ago, Aristides said:

Just my opinion. Whenever I see a movement I agree with use violence, particularly in a society like ours which bends over backwards to accommodate peaceful protest, I think it damages their credibility, at least in my eyes.

Right but what exactly do we mean?

Do all the groups I mentioned bear blame for actions of their members?

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

And what was the guy doing with the cop's taser?

Running away and trying to escape the wrath of white cops.

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

When a cop sees a weapon pulled on him or her, the cop's first responsibility is to live.!

No, his first responsibility is to THINK about whether there is a deadly level of danger.

A guy running away with a taser, even wildly shooting it back at the cop when out of range, was NO DANGER, let alone deadly level. And esp AFTER he shot the last charge. It wasn't any kind of weapon then. 

Of course I understand you have a lot in common with cops who shoot first and ask questions never.

[Guest]

51 minutes ago, robosmith said:

There is a HUGE difference between a gang banger shooting an armed gang banger and a cop shooting a guy in his car who is just reaching for his license.

What about a gang banger recklessly shooting at buildings to hit an intended target, and hitting kids playing? What's the difference? Someone sleeping?  Whats the difference? Wrong narrative?

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

I just don't believe that accidental shootings of innocent bystanders makes up a significant percentage of black shooting deaths, tragic as they are.

Oh, but they do.

11.8 deaths per 100 000 black kids. The statistics weigh in on how young one is introduced to gang violence either directly, or indirectly.

There are no direct statistics for something that specific, but a quick Google search would net you hundreds of storiesdreds of stories, if you searched by city.

 

 

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

What about a gang banger recklessly shooting at buildings to hit an intended target, and hitting kids playing? What's the difference? Someone sleeping?  Whats the difference? Wrong narrative?

Oh, but they do.

11.8 deaths per 100 000 black kids. The statistics weigh in on how young one is introduced to gang violence either directly, or indirectly.

There are no direct statistics for something that specific, but a quick Google search would net you hundreds of storiesdreds of stories, if you searched by city.

I don't see anything ^here about "11.8 deaths per 100K."

And accidental shootings tend to be much less deadly than a cop aiming at someone. Esp when they shoot multiple times like LaQuan McDonald was.

 

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, robosmith said:

And accidental shootings tend to be much less deadly than a cop aiming at someone.

For who?! A bystander? Seriously? 

They are more dangerous, due to how reckless guns are being fired.

Most police use low caliber guns reduce the risk of a bullet doing more damage than intended.

On the streets that code is non existent. Hollow heads, dum dums and high caliber weapons are literally how you keep rivals from messing with you.

It's also precisely how a misfired round will find its way into buildings, hitting unintended targets.

[Guest]

16 minutes ago, robosmith said:

I don't see anything ^here about "11.8 deaths per 100K."

I simply quoted the stat, but you're welcome to read it yourself.

[robosmith]

11 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

I simply quoted the stat, but you're welcome to read it yourself.

Not just children, children and teens. I'm sure teens includes gang bangers as you've previously alluded.

Also that is a recent peak not a longer term average. No reason to believe it won't decline back to trend line as kids get back into school.

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Looked at another way, Black children and teens were roughly five times as likely as their White counterparts to die from gunfire in 2021. There were 11.8 gun deaths per 100,000 Black children and teens that year,

 

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

Running away and trying to escape the wrath of white cops.

No, his first responsibility is to THINK about whether there is a deadly level of danger.

A guy running away with a taser, even wildly shooting it back at the cop when out of range, was NO DANGER, let alone deadly level. And esp AFTER he shot the last charge. It wasn't any kind of weapon then. 

Of course I understand you have a lot in common with cops who shoot first and ask questions never.

Did he point the taser at a cop?

You understand shit...quite frankly.

[Rebound]

On 12/1/2023 at 6:59 AM, Nationalist said:

Don't be silly. 

And what message do you figure "Black Lives Matter" sends to non-blacks? Or does the even register with you?

The organization (BLM) is a scam. Not only did it provide a convenient excuse for vandalism and crime, but the leadership are nothing more than con artists profiting from a grossly warped narrative. 

I disagree with you.

Black people have been killed in disproportionate numbers, and with the ubiquity of cell phone video cameras, the evidence of this criminality has become clear.  
America has a 400+ year history of mistreating black people and abolishing slavery didn’t put an end to the mistreatment. 

[Guest]

27 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Black people have been killed in disproportionate numbers

In current times? The bulk of these killings are perpetrated by other black people.

Compared to white people? That would be false.

This is a community issue. Not a racial issue. Its like pointing out the obtusely high likelihood of sexual assault in the aboriginal community, but conveniently leaving out the fact that those acts are mostly performed by people who are close to the victims.

I grew up in such communities,  and knew from a young age the consequences for snitching.

I live in a mostly white neighborhood now. Very safe? Why? Everyone here wouldn't hesitate to point a finger in court at you.

People work hard to send their kids to school. 

The black community used to be a proud and hard working community.

Decades of government hand outs have created an entitlement level within some, along with zero sense of responsibility for trying to get out of one's situation.

The government isn't there to help you. If you literally feel it is, you're already f***ed.

The hand outs and a cheese trap for mice are literally the exact same. Only difference being that the running wheel and cage the rats otherwise find themselves on, is obvious. 

The government masquerades it as goodwill, and leveling the playing field. 

Edited December 3, 2023 by Perspektiv

[ironstone]

On 11/22/2023 at 4:12 PM, robosmith said:

Elon Musk is an antisemite. What can anyone do about it

I went to the LA Auto Show yesterday and had the opportunity to drive a Tesla. Not many waiting in line, unlike Ford, Jeep, and Nissan.

After the drive, they asked about my desire to buy one. I told the guy I probably would not consider Tesla due to Musk's antisemitism and failure to provide Star Link service in Ukraine's Crimea attack. The guy claimed ignorance about both, not that I believed him.

So you allegedly went there for the purpose of taking a verbal shot at Elon Musk?

You do realize that he'll never hear of this groundbreaking moment do you?

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, ironstone said:

So you allegedly went there for the purpose of taking a verbal shot at Elon Musk?

Woke people don't think.

I had a woke white employee lambast me for accepting racism,  because I am not as vocal about eradicating it as they are. Am black.

To me if someone corners me like this, I am not debating with someone useless to debate with. It will end in a one sided yelling match, as these people don't have the ability to think rationally. 

A lot of people are smiling at them not wanting the headache, while laughing at them afterwards.

 

[robosmith]

On 12/1/2023 at 1:50 PM, Nationalist said:

Did he point the taser at a cop?

You understand shit...quite frankly.

He pointed it in the DIRECTION of the cop, but of course aiming is impossible while running AWAY. Duh

It is YOU who understands SO LITTLE that you have to ask QUESTIONS about a major news story in the US. ?

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

In current times? The bulk of these killings are perpetrated by other black people.

Compared to white people? That would be false.

This is a community issue. Not a racial issue. Its like pointing out the obtusely high likelihood of sexual assault in the aboriginal community, but conveniently leaving out the fact that those acts are mostly performed by people who are close to the victims.

I grew up in such communities,  and knew from a young age the consequences for snitching.

I live in a mostly white neighborhood now. Very safe? Why? Everyone here wouldn't hesitate to point a finger in court at you.

People work hard to send their kids to school. 

The black community used to be a proud and hard working community.

Decades of government hand outs have created an entitlement level within some, along with zero sense of responsibility for trying to get out of one's situation.

The government isn't there to help you. If you literally feel it is, you're already f***ed.

The hand outs and a cheese trap for mice are literally the exact same. Only difference being that the running wheel and cage the rats otherwise find themselves on, is obvious. 

The government masquerades it as goodwill, and leveling the playing field. 

It's NOT a masquerade. It is help to SURVIVE until they get their shit together and turn their lives around.

YOU would just add to the death toll.

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, ironstone said:

So you allegedly went there for the purpose of taking a verbal shot at Elon Musk?

I went to the Tesla test drive cause it was on the way out, I've never driven a Tesla before, and they were offering that cheap and easy opportunity. I was NOT EXPECTING to be grilled on plans to purchase one, but I answered honestly WHEN ASKED. Duh 

2 hours ago, ironstone said:

You do realize that he'll never hear of this groundbreaking moment do you?

He might or not. That really wasn't the POINT of the story. MAYBE the head of marketing will hear about it and tell Musk to knock it off.

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Woke people don't think.

You are so biased you won't even consider alternative points of view.

2 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

I had a woke white employee lambast me for accepting racism,  because I am not as vocal about eradicating it as they are. Am black.

To me if someone corners me like this, I am not debating with someone useless to debate with. It will end in a one sided yelling match, as these people don't have the ability to think rationally. 

Says the guy who dismisses alternative viewpoints without even hearing the argument.

2 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

A lot of people are smiling at them not wanting the headache, while laughing at them afterwards.

I'm laughing at the irony of your actions.

However, perhaps a work environment is a bad place to have an argument that might be illuminating elsewhere.

[Guest]

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

until they get their shit together

You motivate that by providing incentives to do so. Jobs. Opportunity. Things that restore dignity. Not welfare cheques, which generationally strips it away.

You keep throwing food at a bird, and you make it dependent on you. You don't stop the practice and provide alternatives, and you create an entitlement from the birds to be fed. That's your solution. 

Throwing money at people and calling them victims and blaming everyone but themselves for their plight, perpetuates the cycle, and not only this, justifies the practice of continuing the hand outs.

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

Says the guy who dismisses alternative viewpoints without even hearing the argument.

I heard the entire argument. I won't make a decision on an argument  until I have heard it in its entirety.

I love logic. If a point is devoid of it its a no go to me. I will hear you out, but will politely disagree.

In person I will thank you for your input, while laughing on the inside. You won't even know what I think of you, because you won't be worth my time.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

You motivate that by providing incentives to do so. Jobs. Opportunity. Things that restore dignity. Not welfare cheques, which generationally strips it away.

You keep throwing food at a bird, and you make it dependent on you. You don't stop the practice and provide alternatives, and you create an entitlement from the birds to be fed. That's your solution. 

Throwing money at people and calling them victims and blaming everyone but themselves for their plight, perpetuates the cycle, and not only this, justifies the practice of continuing the hand outs.

I heard the entire argument. I won't make a decision on an argument  until I have heard it in its entirety.

I love logic. If a point is devoid of it its a no go to me. I will hear you out, but will politely disagree.

In person I will thank you for your input, while laughing on the inside. You won't even know what I think of you, because you won't be worth my time.

You got ANYTHING LIKE THIS to corroborate YOUR ^OPINIONS?

Study shows welfare prevents crime, quite dramatically

Peer-Reviewed Publication

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, robosmith said:

He pointed it in the DIRECTION of the cop, but of course aiming is impossible while running AWAY. Duh

Point a weapon at a cop, you get shot.

Everyone knows this. it's dumb to pretend it shouldn't be that way. Don't want to get shot, don't point guns at cops.

[CdnFox]

15 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You got ANYTHING LIKE THIS to corroborate YOUR ^OPINIONS?

Study shows welfare prevents crime, quite dramatically

Peer-Reviewed Publication

But that's not what the study said.  That's just what the headline says - the article goes on to actually say that it only studied disabled people.

Soooo - no, it doesn't show welfare prevents crime, it showed that :

 

Supplemental Security Income is a United States program that provides payments to people with disabilities who have low incomes. Children qualify for the program based on their disability status and their parents' low income and assets. Until 1996 children automatically continued to qualify for the adult program when they reached 18 years old unless their incomes increased.

As part of changes made to US social welfare programs in 1996 the US Social Security Administration began to reevaluate children receiving SSI when they turned 18 using different, adult, medical eligibility criteria. The Social Security Administration began removing about 40% of children receiving benefits when they turned 18. This process disproportionately removes children with mental and behavioral conditions such as attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder.

 

And if you read the study itself it's pretty flawed. 

So - you googled and grabbed the first headline you could without even reading it.  And now you look like  a complete low-brained loser.

Maybe try reading the article and not the headline next time.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Maybe try reading the article and not the headline next time.

Seriously. ?

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, robosmith said:

You got ANYTHING LIKE THIS to corroborate YOUR ^OPINIONS?

 

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

Seriously. ?

So that's a "NO." Thanks for admitting you got BUPKIS.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

 

So that's a "NO." Thanks for admitting you got BUPKIS.

LOL - he was replying to me robodope    I pointed out Correctly that you screwed up royally and obviously didn't read the article you posted.

I reminded you that you should read the ARTICLE, not the HEADLINE.  This is a chronic problem with you because you're not terribly bright or well read.

He was saying "seriously" to that comment    In other words....  Seriously, read the damn article and not just the headline and THINK about it.  You can't just google for something that confirms your bias, see a headline and do a copy paste and think that's good enough, you'll look like an 1diot.  Again.  Or in your case more of 1diot.

[Guest]

4 hours ago, robosmith said:

So that's a "NO."

Cherry picking statistics that don't speak to all people discussed that happen to be on welfare, doesn't represent anything.

Its disingenuous and lazy.

[Nationalist]

19 hours ago, Rebound said:

I disagree with you.

Black people have been killed in disproportionate numbers, and with the ubiquity of cell phone video cameras, the evidence of this criminality has become clear.  
America has a 400+ year history of mistreating black people and abolishing slavery didn’t put an end to the mistreatment. 

BLM is a scam.! Black people should be outraged by what's been learned about this scam.

Anyone who reads the posts of @Perspektiv sees how a man should act. With a sense of respect and honor. But all the black community gets from the government is a reaffirmation of victinhood.