Elon Musk is an antisemite. What can anyone do about it

[Nationalist]

7 hours ago, robosmith said:

I've never been "limp" in my life, so ^this is just projection cause you know nothing about me except that I'm much taller and slimmer than you.

I know nothing of the sort. What I know...is you carry on like some emasculated twerp.

[robosmith]

7 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Total opinion hit piece.

Just like those on the hard left accusing him of being an antisemite, vs making a knuckleheaded and racially insensitive comment, at the worst possible moment. One he acknowledged in its poor taste, apologizing for the poor judgment. These are all left out. Has nothing to do with social improvement.

Nowhere does it mention the major wait list for the Cyber truck.

Nowhere are Tesla's stock nearly doubling this year, being mentioned.

Ever been to China? 

Tesla cars are literally everywhere. Its a symbol of wealth.

China doesn't care much for woke ideology. Is the car good, or not?

They are still industry leaders, regarding range and performance, along with battery technology and design.

I like seeing balance in a post, and there is literally none. That's not news.

Tesla still dominates their field, and while other automakers are catching up  its just that. They are catching up.

Imagine. The Cybertruck is fully made of stainless steel. Has high albeit disappointing range, but an add on pack, makes it industry leading.

Its still much lighter than one of its rivals, the Rivian.

A much bigger truck, no less.

Tesla's battery technology makes them incredibly efficient and lighter, allowing for high range, and minimizing the vehicle weight which would counter productive. 

Like I said. You're just mad he triggers you. 

Tesla is going nowhere.

The line to drive a Tesla at the LA Auto show was very SHORT.

 

 

6 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I know nothing of the sort. What I know...is you carry on like some emasculated twerp.

Anyone who drinks as much beer as you certainly has a beer belly to show for it. Esp since you drive a golf cart instead of walking.

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

The line to drive a Tesla at the LA Auto show was very SHORT.

 

 

Anyone who drinks as much beer as you certainly has a beer belly to show for it. Esp since you drive a golf cart instead of walking.

and?

[Guest]

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

The line to drive a Tesla at the LA Auto show was very SHORT.

Whats your point?

The model Y and 3 are the global bestselling EVs. Tesla is shoulders and head above any competition. 

The closest brands, are Chinese and are lagging quite a bit behind.

Tesla is doing just fine, and isn't going anywhere.

Forget their cars, they have solar, they have massive charging infrastructure, they have energy storage modules.

If you're going to bash the company, at least do it accurately, vs grasping at straws.

You're doing the equivalent of pointing to Walmart stores that closed, to point to a brand in deep trouble, when overall numbers point to quite the opposite.

This is precisely why so many are prone to fall victim to conspiracy theories, as now news will froth at the mouth and put out hit pieces to get clicks on a trending name, vs stick to the ethics that should be behind things, such as reporting all sides of a story.

[robosmith]

22 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Whats your point?

The model Y and 3 are the global bestselling EVs. Tesla is shoulders and head above any competition. 

The closest brands, are Chinese and are lagging quite a bit behind.

Tesla is doing just fine, and isn't going anywhere.

Forget their cars, they have solar, they have massive charging infrastructure, they have energy storage modules.

If you're going to bash the company, at least do it accurately, vs grasping at straws.

You're doing the equivalent of pointing to Walmart stores that closed, to point to a brand in deep trouble, when overall numbers point to quite the opposite.

This is precisely why so many are prone to fall victim to conspiracy theories, as now news will froth at the mouth and put out hit pieces to get clicks on a trending name, vs stick to the ethics that should be behind things, such as reporting all sides of a story.

Can you read the stock price graph? Wall St is not bullish. "Cheapest level ever"

Unlike your OPINION, that means much more.

[taxme]

On 11/22/2023 at 1:12 PM, robosmith said:

Elon Musk is an antisemite. What can anyone do about it

I went to the LA Auto Show yesterday and had the opportunity to drive a Tesla. Not many waiting in line, unlike Ford, Jeep, and Nissan.

After the drive, they asked about my desire to buy one. I told the guy I probably would not consider Tesla due to Musk's antisemitism and failure to provide Star Link service in Ukraine's Crimea attack. The guy claimed ignorance about both, not that I believed him.

Unlike the old zionist controlled globalist Twitter, Elon Musk believes in freedom of speech. Everyone has a right to speak their own mind on X freely w/o censorship. The problem with you is that you do not understand as to what freedom of speech is really all about. When people like you attacks Elon Musk, then it is for sure that you do not believe in freedom of speech. 

My next car will be just another fossil fuel gas guzzler. They are more reliable than an EV, and i can go on very long trips, w/o having to stop and charge an EV for an hour or more every 180 miles or so. One has to add a few more hours to get to their destination. Where is the sense in wanting to buy an EV?

But, it is sure nice to hear that EV sales are not going so great. Buyers are seeing the stupidity in buying an EV. The EV car manufacturer lots are full of EV's just sitting around and not selling. The novelty appears to be waning. Works for me. And the WEF globalist elite ilk are not going to like hearing about that bit of news. But ask me if i give a shit about what they think or say. ??

[taxme]

On 12/11/2023 at 9:37 AM, robosmith said:

The line to drive a Tesla at the LA Auto show was very SHORT.

 

 

Anyone who drinks as much beer as you certainly has a beer belly to show for it. Esp since you drive a golf cart instead of walking.

Maybe the line was short because no one really wants to try one out or buy one. Maybe it is because of the humongous price and that it is not really worth the effort to have to charge the vehicle after every use to make sure that one does not end up with a dead battery. Then, a tow truck needs to be called if there is no charging station available. The smart thing to do is to buy a fossil fuel using vehicle. They are truly reliable on the road. Just saying. ?

[Guest]

14 minutes ago, robosmith said:

the stock price graph?

Am confused as to what your end game is, or your point. I see the data loud and clear.

[Mako]

Some people hate free speech. Why do they only want boring propaganda from the big media corporations like Disney?

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2022/04/06/groomer-gate-15-times-disney-promoted-lgbtqai2s-in-childrens-programing/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinereid/2023/08/04/the-four-flops-of-2023-that-cost-disney-1-billion/?sh=330f37cb3bed

Some people fall for the lies of Media Matters.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/nov/20/x-twitter-lawsuit-media-matters-nazism-ads

https://spectator.org/media-matters-lies-part-mcclxiii/

The establishment hates Musk because he doesn’t embrace our stupid wars (Ukraine and Gaza) with the required enthusiasm.

Edited December 13, 2023 by Mako

[robosmith]

18 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Am confused as to what your end game is, or your point. I see the data loud and clear.

The point is your glowing evaluation of Musk businesses is not holding up well. As the OP title says.....

[robosmith]

18 hours ago, taxme said:

Unlike the old zionist controlled globalist Twitter, Elon Musk believes in freedom of speech. Everyone has a right to speak their own mind on X freely w/o censorship. The problem with you is that you do not understand as to what freedom of speech is really all about. When people like you attacks Elon Musk, then it is for sure that you do not believe in freedom of speech. 

My next car will be just another fossil fuel gas guzzler. They are more reliable than an EV, and i can go on very long trips, w/o having to stop and charge an EV for an hour or more every 180 miles or so. One has to add a few more hours to get to their destination. Where is the sense in wanting to buy an EV?

But, it is sure nice to hear that EV sales are not going so great. Buyers are seeing the stupidity in buying an EV. The EV car manufacturer lots are full of EV's just sitting around and not selling. The novelty appears to be waning. Works for me. And the WEF globalist elite ilk are not going to like hearing about that bit of news. But ask me if i give a shit about what they think or say. ??

EV's are not as crude as they used to be. Many have 300+ miles range and much faster charging.

In reality it is recommended that you take a 20-30 minute break after driving 300 miles (4-5 hours)

[CdnFox]

30 minutes ago, robosmith said:

EV's are not as crude as they used to be. Many have 300+ miles range and much faster charging.

In reality it is recommended that you take a 20-30 minute break after driving 300 miles (4-5 hours)

The thing is they pretty much are as crude as they used to be. The batteries are the same, ,and that's the achilles heel. Going further just means they put more batteries in. The batteries themselves aren't any different.  And  they are BLOODY expensive.

And fast charging them is bad for them. And while taking a break might be recommended it may not be something you want to do.  And you'd hate to get to that point and find out that charging station is closed or shut down for some reason and now what do you do?

It's worth it for some people but as a replacement for ICE it's just not quite there yet

[taxme]

19 minutes ago, robosmith said:

EV's are not as crude as they used to be. Many have 300+ miles range and much faster charging.

In reality it is recommended that you take a 20-30 minute break after driving 300 miles (4-5 hours)

Well for now, EV's are not doing all that well in the EV buying market these days. They still have a long way to go to convince me that they are worth my money. I often wonder as to why the manufacturers of EV's do not have it's own charging unit inside an EV which charges the EV as it drives along, One would never have to worry about stopping ever again or try to look for a charging unit to charge up their batteries for a few hours. 

And a bigger problem with owning an EV is that there will be the need to have hundreds of thousands of charging stations placed everywhere to be able to charge up an EV. I park on the streets, and if i need to charge up my battery overnight, there would have to be battery charging station for me to do so everywhere on the streets. Also, it would be very easy to vandalize. Cut the wiring and thus no charging. One may wake up in the morning to go to work and find a cut wire and a dead battery. It will happen guaranteed. The car insurance companies will not to have that happen too often. Just saying. ?

 

 

[robosmith]

5 minutes ago, taxme said:

Well for now, EV's are not doing all that well in the EV buying market these days. They still have a long way to go to convince me that they are worth my money. I often wonder as to why the manufacturers of EV's do not have it's own charging unit inside an EV which charges the EV as it drives along, One would never have to worry about stopping ever again or try to look for a charging unit to charge up their batteries for a few hours. 

And a bigger problem with owning an EV is that there will be the need to have hundreds of thousands of charging stations placed everywhere to be able to charge up an EV. I park on the streets, and if i need to charge up my battery overnight, there would have to be battery charging station for me to do so everywhere on the streets. Also, it would be very easy to vandalize. Cut the wiring and thus no charging. One may wake up in the morning to go to work and find a cut wire and a dead battery. It will happen guaranteed. The car insurance companies will not to have that happen too often. Just saying. ?

Well, I split the difference and bought a HYBRID which does have a built in "charging unit." 

Or you can get a PLUG-IN HYBRID which is better but more expensive due to bigger battery.

I am happy with 48-50MPG in my Accord, because electric rates are very high in San Diego.

Personally I would hate to park on the street because people steal catalytic converters for the Platinum, etc.

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At first glance, catalytic converters seem like a weirdly specific part to steal. But there's a reason for that — they're rich in precious metals, such as platinum, palladium, and rhodium. A thief can earn a couple hundred bucks from a typical catalytic converter.

 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

The point is your glowing evaluation of Musk businesses

Its not gloom and doom for Tesla. There is a reason for the sudden dip in their stock, and it's not the CEO remarks.

You would be more honest to point why those numbers are the way they are, and what the future holds for Tesla based on available data.

That would be an objective opinion.

You're trying to paint Musk as a man with a crumbling empire, when this couldn't be further from the truth, other than the dumpster fire he inherited.

[robosmith]

46 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Its not gloom and doom for Tesla. There is a reason for the sudden dip in their stock, and it's not the CEO remarks.

You would be more honest to point why those numbers are the way they are, and what the future holds for Tesla based on available data.

That would be an objective opinion.

You're trying to paint Musk as a man with a crumbling empire, when this couldn't be further from the truth, other than the dumpster fire he inherited.

He didn't "inherit" twitter, he bought it, and then ran it into the ground losing at least half of his investment.

You seem to be mistaking the OPINION of the POSTER I QUOTED with my own.

I'm solely going off the evidence I quoted, since I know little about the financial state of the businesses except for the MASSIVE LOSSES at X.

[WestCanMan]

On 12/11/2023 at 5:58 PM, Perspektiv said:

Whats your point?

His point is that Twitter was a member of the Trusted News Initiative, and they were in lock step with the Dems' other social media giants and MSM partners, until Elon came along and upset the applecart.

It was just groovy for alt-leftists when discussion of the BSL4 lab in Wuhan was shut down, when the origin of covid wasn't allowed to be challenged, when conservatives were getting banned and shadow-banned for telling the truth, and when the NYPost was kicked off social media for telling the truth about Hunter's laptop, but now that the social media landscape isn't entirely under TNI control, 'democracy is under attack'. Musk is a MONSTER!

Musk's electric cars no longer save the earth, they've become instruments of eeevill. Everything Musk says and does is eeevill now.

He went from having golden boy status with the alt-left and MSM to getting the Trump treatment. 

[taxme]

2 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Its not gloom and doom for Tesla. There is a reason for the sudden dip in their stock, and it's not the CEO remarks.

You would be more honest to point why those numbers are the way they are, and what the future holds for Tesla based on available data.

That would be an objective opinion.

You're trying to paint Musk as a man with a crumbling empire, when this couldn't be further from the truth, other than the dumpster fire he inherited.

And now Musk has 2 million of his Tesla EV's to repair because of a faulty autopilot. What will be next? ?

[Guest]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

He didn't "inherit" twitter, he bought it

Correct. He purchased Twitter and inherited its problems, from litigation to financial.

Twitters cash flow was negative upon purchase, along with a heavy debt load.

Like I said. Twitter was already a dumpster fire. He just poured gasoline on it, and put thousands of tires and flammable materials on top of the mess.

People on Twitter were always toxic. He just provided prominent conservatives with their voice back.

Now that the toxicity was uncomfortable to some, it became a problem. A magnifying glass was put on Musk, but the financial issues have always been there.

I don't understand how you feel this was a healthy business model.

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

MASSIVE LOSSES at X.

The losses are larger. 

I see it like a massive house fire, that winds up having a tree fall on top of it. You're acting like that tree is the beginning of the end.

Musk is the tree. If there is any doubt this was a dumpster fire, he removed any remaining portion of it.

4 minutes ago, taxme said:

What will be next? ?

All normal for automakers to recall vehicles.

People are putting out hit pieces on him, trying to ruin and cancel him, but his businesses are doing just fine. 

[robosmith]

5 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Correct. He purchased Twitter and inherited its problems, from litigation to financial.

He CHOSE those problems. And made them MUCH WORSE.

5 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Twitters cash flow was negative upon purchase, along with a heavy debt load.

Like I said. Twitter was already a dumpster fire. He just poured gasoline on it, and put thousands of tires and flammable materials on top of the mess.

People on Twitter were always toxic. He just provided prominent conservatives with their voice back.

You're ignoring the FACT that Musk completely dismantled the content moderation at Twitter and turned it into a SEWER. Now he's complaining and losing money cause no one wants to ADVERTISE in SEWER.

5 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Now that the toxicity was uncomfortable to some, it became a problem. A magnifying glass was put on Musk, but the financial issues have always been there.

I don't understand how you feel this was a healthy business model.

The losses are larger. 

I see it like a massive house fire, that winds up having a tree fall on top of it. You're acting like that tree is the beginning of the end.

Musk is the tree. If there is any doubt this was a dumpster fire, he removed any remaining portion of it.

He turned a fire in a fire pit into a burning house.

I was talking about Musk's losses of over $20B. Half of his investment.

Edited December 14, 2023 by robosmith

[taxme]

15 minutes ago, robosmith said:

He CHOSE those problems. And made them MUCH WORSE.

You're ignoring the FACT that Musk completely dismantled the content moderation at Twitter and turned it into a SEWER. Now he's complaining and losing money cause no one wants to ADVERTISE in SEWER.

He turned a fire in a fire pit into a burning house.

I was talking about Musk's losses of over $20B. Half of his investment.

Well, at least conservatives like me finally get to have a social media platform where we can finally get to speak freely and not be censored. Twitter was full of communist censors before Musk took it over. Probably thousands of those communist vensors have been thrown in the sewer where they belong. Twitter was already a commie sewer before Elon Musk bought Twitter. Now the attack is on by the big tech globalist WEF elite against Musk to try and destroy his social media sight. Those globalist elite scumbags do not believe in freedom of speech at the WEF. Just their speech is okay. 

Musk can afford the losses. If Musk decided to ask for donations to help keep X running, Musk would probably rake in millions of dollars in donations from the many freedom of speech conservative lovers and believers. Musk will not lose. It is the WEF globalists that will and are losing. Their days are numbered. They are just having such a problem in trying to shut down people like conservatives.

We are starting to outnumber them a 1000 to 1. We can only win with like those numbers on our side. All that will be left for them to do to try and save their sorry arse holes is to try and get a 3rd WW going. I would not put it pass them to try and do so. Trump must win the next election in order to try and stop the globalist cabal from trying to blow the whole world up first. This is what i believe could and would happen. Just my opinion of course. ?  

[robosmith]

48 minutes ago, taxme said:

Well, at least conservatives like me finally get to have a social media platform where we can finally get to speak freely and not be censored.

Were you banned from Twitter? Or just blowing smoke?

[Guest]

7 hours ago, robosmith said:

He CHOSE those problems.

Correct, but this doesn't remove the fact that Twitter was a problematic company.

7 hours ago, robosmith said:

And made them MUCH WORSE.

It was already a dumpster fire. All he has done, was anger off the far left, which had somewhat of a safe space there, by effortlessly banning voices that offended them.

7 hours ago, robosmith said:

turned it into a SEWER.

It was better as a dumpster fire. Twitter is getting what it deserves. It was a horrible business model to begin with. 

7 hours ago, robosmith said:

I was talking about Musk's losses of over $20B. Half of his investment.

I honestly don't think he cares about the losses. His other businesses are doing just fine. 

Speech is free there, so to me its an improvement. If he kept his nose out of the drama and patched up issues, nobody will remember any of this.

[taxme]

17 hours ago, robosmith said:

Were you banned from Twitter? Or just blowing smoke?

Actually, i never used Twitter. But maybe i will try it out sometime. All i know is that since Musk took over Twitter, freedom of speech is back on Twitter, and commie censorship is gone. Left wing liberals like you should be banned. Lefty's like you can only ever offer mis and disinformation. ?

[taxme]

10 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Correct, but this doesn't remove the fact that Twitter was a problematic company.

It was already a dumpster fire. All he has done, was anger off the far left, which had somewhat of a safe space there, by effortlessly banning voices that offended them.

It was better as a dumpster fire. Twitter is getting what it deserves. It was a horrible business model to begin with. 

I honestly don't think he cares about the losses. His other businesses are doing just fine. 

Speech is free there, so to me its an improvement. If he kept his nose out of the drama and patched up issues, nobody will remember any of this.

Lefty Robocop just does not believe in freedom of speech. He likes censorship for those who's opinions are different than his. Lefty Robocop is just mad because freedom of speech is back on Twitter and censorship is gone on Twitter. 

Lefty Robocop needs to go live in North Korea for a month and then go about criticizing the dear leader Kim Jung ILL. It will be off to the gulag for robocop. Then he will really learn as to what and how freedom of speech is all about and which is so great and such a wonderful thing, and that censorship is not so great. That is the only way for stunned left wing liberals like lefty will learn to appreciate freedom of speech. ?