Elon Musk is an antisemite. What can anyone do about it

[Aristides]

Just now, robosmith said:

Actually it's about others believing and acting like black lives don't matter.

 

Yes, perhaps I should have said some lives mattering less than others.

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He's been busy backtracking. Some say for the first time.

He should do himself a favour and stay off social media and stick to electric cars, spacecraft and solar power. He wouldn't be the first brilliant person to be a social child.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Oh for Gawd's sake Dweebles...

I have no idea if Musk believes this replacement theory or not...

Really? Saying the "that's the absolute truth," is a very strong endorsement.

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

 

but so f'ing what if he does? Maybe he agreed with something you and your dweebey friends have taken completely out of context. Its not like that hasn't happened before...

Look it up and TRY to explain how it's "out of context." I'll bet you CANNOT.

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/infinite-scroll/elon-musks-poisoned-platform

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Well - it's interesting actually.

 

Here's what was said by the poster elon agreed with

Jewish communties have been pushing the exact kind of dialectical
hatred against whites that they claim to want people to stop using
against them.
I'm deeply disinterested in giving the tiniest shit now about western
Jewish populations coming to the disturbing realization that those
hordes of minorities that support flooding their country don't exactly like
them too much.
You want truth said to your face, there it is

 

So - what the guy said was that the jewish communities in the west (us) have supported people saying the same thing about white people that is now being said about them - specifically that whites are privlidged and try to take over the world and control everything etc, basically the whole critical race theory argument. He seems to be suggesting many jewish communities are on the left and have supported left wing ideology.

And now people are saying that about them and they don't like it - the jews are privlidged the jews repress people etc etc

And he notes that many of the immigrants that the jews supported  with this (muslim immigrants presumably) turn out not to like the jews and they've shot themselves in the foot.

Elon agrees this is true.

 

Is that anti semetic? I'm not sure it is. He's not saying all jews, and it is demonstrable that many jewish communities did support this kind of thing. It's a broad statement so maybe it is.

And is it 'replacment theory'?  I don't see that AT ALL - he's not talking about jews trying to REPLACE white people with foreigners, he's saying that their arguments for letting these foreigners in are now being used against them.  That's not really got anything to do with replacement theory.

 

Soooo - kinda feels like the left making shit up to suit them again.

Quelle Surprise

[NAME REMOVED]

1 hour ago, Deluge said:

Robowoke is the kind of pervert that needs left-wing propaganda in all aspects of his/her/their entertainment. lol

I've always found that the super religious and far-right members, always resort to projecting their sexual deviance on their political opponents.  Just look at MAGA and the Evangelical Churches. They molest underage kids like it is going out of style!

[herbie]

Just keep in mind that Elon's a modern day Henry Ford, who was also an a$$hole.

Edited November 30, 2023 by herbie

[Nationalist]

43 minutes ago, Aristides said:

BLM is about some lives mattering more than others.

 

Seems Elon doesn't like being held accountable for what he says. Pity.

BLM is a scam.

Seems Elon doesn't give a damn.

42 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You've pretty much demonstrated you cannot by your endorsement of fraud and violence.

Yes Dear...

[Aristides]

Just now, Nationalist said:

BLM is a scam.

 

 

I think any movement that resorts to violence damages their message regardless of how valid it may be.

 

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Seems Elon doesn't give a damn.

Disagree, his tantrum over advertisers leaving indicates he cares very much but instead of taking some responsibility himself, he blames them if the company should fail. It seems he thinks he is entitled to their money regardless of what comes out of his mouth. 

[robosmith]

26 minutes ago, Aristides said:

I think any movement that resorts to violence damages their message regardless of how valid it may be.

 

Disagree, his tantrum over advertisers leaving indicates he cares very much but instead of taking some responsibility himself, he blames them if the company should fail. It seems he thinks he is entitled to their money regardless of what comes out of his mouth. 

Maybe he actually believes that Twitter was worth the money he paid for it and the advertisers are squandering that "valuable" resource.

Isn't "threads" just waiting to take it's place?

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

I think any movement that resorts to violence damages their message regardless of how valid it may be.

 

Disagree, his tantrum over advertisers leaving indicates he cares very much but instead of taking some responsibility himself, he blames them if the company should fail. It seems he thinks he is entitled to their money regardless of what comes out of his mouth. 

BLM was and remains, a scam.

I think "go fck yourself...Bob" about says it all.

[Rebound]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I believe all lives matter...until any one individual proves he/she can't live within the bounds of our society.

So anyone convicted of any crime should be killed, since their life doesn't matter?

When a group calls itself "Black Lives Matter" in order to highlight the fact that innocent black people have been, and continue to be, needlessly beaten and killed by police officers, retorting "All Lives Matter" sends the message that you don't think that Black Lives Matter. It is insulting to them because it throws their words back at them instead of acknowledging their point.

[robosmith]

1 minute ago, Rebound said:

So anyone convicted of any crime should be killed, since their life doesn't matter?

When a group calls itself "Black Lives Matter" in order to highlight the fact that innocent black people have been, and continue to be, needlessly beaten and killed by police officers, retorting "All Lives Matter" sends the message that you don't think that Black Lives Matter. It is insulting to them because it throws their words back at them instead of acknowledging their point.

The thing is, unlike Black Lives, no one ever said all lives DON'T matter.

When cops kill unarmed black men, they're saying black lives don't matter.

Like the black guy in Atlanta who was killed for wildly firing a taser in the direction of the cops way out of range.

He died even though he was NO THREAT to those cops. They were just too lazy to chase him down.

[Guest]

6 hours ago, robosmith said:

BLM is all about opposing cops who kill unarmed black people

Essentially, "Leave the killing of black people, to other armed black people!"

When black people kill each other, crickets. White cops kill a black person? The world stops.

This is manufactured outrage to make you feel good about yourself. So you can dust off your white savior complex shield, to help protect those poor black people who need protection.

Has nothing to do about caring about others.

You should be outraged about the former, if you truly did care about black lives.

More white people get shot by cops. Where's the outrage?

Elon Musk made a great point. 

People nowadays seem more focused on looking good while doing evil, than doing good.

Dude has literally turned a zero emissions vehicle which used to be seen as a joke socially, to the wave of the future.

From clean energy, to cleaner cars. He literally has done far more for the environment than hypocritical politicians shaming you for polluting, while taking their private aircraft everywhere, in solidarity with you.

SpaceX. I don't need to say anymore. 

He made a racially insensitive comment. Let's call it what it is.

Last time I checked, I saw tens of thousands of people cheering on Hamas attacks on Israel.

Calling for the eradication of Jews, in chants of solidarity.

Calling what Israel is doing genocide, but few seeming to want to denounce what Hamas is doing.

Sharply rising antisemitic violence, before he made these comments.

Sounds like a bunch of hypocrites want a convenient scapegoat, because he speaks freely, and are offended by it.

[Aristides]

20 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Essentially, "Leave the killing of black people, to other armed black people!"

When black people kill each other, crickets. White cops kill a black person? The world stops.

More white people get shot by cops. Where's the outrage?

So because armed black people kill black people it's OK for cops to kill black people. What kind of equivalence is that?

Considering 61% of Americans are white and only 12% are black, why wouldn't you think more white people are going to be shot by cops? Why would you be outraged that more white people are shot by cops?

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

Essentially, "Leave the killing of black people, to other armed black people!"

When black people kill each other, crickets. White cops kill a black person? The world stops.

Most blacks killing other blacks is gang banger violence, NOT killing unarmed black men.

The gang bangers are ALL ARMED.

[Guest]

6 hours ago, Aristides said:

So because armed black people kill black people it's OK for cops to kill black people.

Not at all what I said. Both are disgusting. What I am saying, is the outrage about the latter only, is hypocritical. 

6 hours ago, Aristides said:

Why would you be outraged that more white people are shot by cops?

Isn't anyone being shot by a cop disgusting, by your stance? Or only if they fit into a narrative? Otherwise why are they any different? 

6 hours ago, robosmith said:

Most blacks killing other blacks is gang banger violence, NOT killing unarmed black men.

The gang bangers are ALL ARMED.

The innocent bystanders routinely hit by stray bullets, are not. A lot of these victims end up being kids in the wrong place.

Also, a lot of gang initiations involve shooting and killing someone. A lot of times, these victims wind up being innocent, or at the very least, unarmed.

Lastly a "thug" needing a gun to protect themselves, or to sell drugs is part of the issue to begin with.

The lack of father figures, makes gangs highly attractive. If I didn't have a strong mother, I easily could have joined a gang.

The fact you see them as armed so not mattering, proves you never have seen the mothers having to pick up the pieces.

One of my childhood friends followed the wrong path (didn't have a good mother like I did), and joined a gang. He was lost, and found brotherhood with these people.

Was starting to turn his life around, when his past caught up to him. Someone had put a price on his head.

He opened his front door, the shooter asked for his name, and the rest was history as he was riddled with bullets. No weapons on him.

His family, his girlfriend having to pick up the pieces over the senseless crime over a perceived slight from a rival.

If you understood the black community, you would know something petty like not giving dap to someone because you didn't see them, could fester a massive beef, due to the perceived disrespect.

But since he was in a gang, all is good and you want to lecture me a out caring about black lives?

Give me a break. You should be ashamed of yourself.

People like you don't even remotely understand what being black is like, but want to shame me for not being offended by a dumb comment Musk made when people are literally assaulting Jewish people and calling for their erasure in marches.

Be consistent with your outrage, or stop acting like you actually give a shit.

[Nationalist]

11 hours ago, Rebound said:

So anyone convicted of any crime should be killed, since their life doesn't matter?

Don't be silly. 

12 hours ago, Rebound said:

When a group calls itself "Black Lives Matter" in order to highlight the fact that innocent black people have been, and continue to be, needlessly beaten and killed by police officers, retorting "All Lives Matter" sends the message that you don't think that Black Lives Matter. It is insulting to them because it throws their words back at them instead of acknowledging their point.

And what message do you figure "Black Lives Matter" sends to non-blacks? Or does the even register with you?

The organization (BLM) is a scam. Not only did it provide a convenient excuse for vandalism and crime, but the leadership are nothing more than con artists profiting from a grossly warped narrative. 

[Nationalist]

12 hours ago, robosmith said:

The thing is, unlike Black Lives, no one ever said all lives DON'T matter.

When cops kill unarmed black men, they're saying black lives don't matter.

Like the black guy in Atlanta who was killed for wildly firing a taser in the direction of the cops way out of range.

He died even though he was NO THREAT to those cops. They were just too lazy to chase him down.

And this @Rebound is what I mean by "grossly warped narrative".

If you are stupid enough to pull a gun on a cop, ya gits wut ya pays fer. 

And @robosmith, nobody says black lives don't matter. 

Must you be such an insufferable panty-waste?

[Michael Hardner]

16 hours ago, Aristides said:

I think any movement that resorts to violence damages their message regardless of how valid it may be.

What's the principle behind attributing behavior to a movement?

Let's use some examples of BLM, January 6th, the Ottawa Convoy, the Catholic Church.

Maybe to help the discussion, list which attributes of organizations should be considered in applying the principle?

 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

If you are stupid enough to pull a gun on a cop, ya gits wut ya pays fer. 

This is what irritates me.

I have seen so many fully unedited videos of "unarmed black men" being shot by white cops.

Watched so many, including one where the suspect had cops called on him for domestic violence.

Cops don't get called because you're minding your business.

He advised the officers he had a gun in his SUV.

Then books it to his vehicle, and reaches in.

So, to people criticizing the cops, in this setting, people want the cop to stand there and wait to make sure he isn't just pulling out his license or his bottle of water due to the heat.

My gun would be drawn and the instructions would be to move slowly. Only mistake that cop made in opening fire and asking questions later.

Boggles the mind how many people like this are tagged as innocent.

Floyd wasn't innocent and was resisting arrest. 

Fine the force was excessive, but why allow for things to get to a point where the cop is on pins and needles and has a gun? 

You bring conflict to many of the encounters, and you're playing Russian roulette with your life.

[Aristides]

59 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

What's the principle behind attributing behavior to a movement?

Let's use some examples of BLM, January 6th, the Ottawa Convoy, the Catholic Church.

Maybe to help the discussion, list which attributes of organizations should be considered in applying the principle?

 

Just my opinion. Whenever I see a movement I agree with use violence, particularly in a society like ours which bends over backwards to accommodate peaceful protest, I think it damages their credibility, at least in my eyes.

[Aristides]

6 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Not at all what I said. Both are disgusting. What I am saying, is the outrage about the latter only, is hypocritical. 

Isn't anyone being shot by a cop disgusting, by your stance? Or only if they fit into a narrative? Otherwise why are they any different? 

The innocent bystanders routinely hit by stray bullets, are not. A lot of these victims end up being kids in the wrong place.

Also, a lot of gang initiations involve shooting and killing someone. A lot of times, these victims wind up being innocent, or at the very least, unarmed.

Give me a break. You should be ashamed of yourself.

There are five times as many whites as blacks in the US, more whites are going to die from just about everything. During 2022, 389 white people were killed by police vs 225 blacks. So not even twice as many whites even though they represent five times the population. 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/

I find it interesting that you have to resort to comparing police with gangs. You seem to have very low expectations of your police.

I'm not the one who should be ashamed.

Edited December 1, 2023 by Aristides

[Guest]

20 minutes ago, Aristides said:

During 2022, 389 white people were killed by police vs 225 blacks.

Your point?

To me, your numbers only showcase the highly likelihood of a black youth committing crime, than their white counterpart. Higher likelihood of a police encounter. 

Looking at the police to point fingers, vs the culture and community for answers, is blaming the last line of defense vs what caused the police to be in those environments far more frequently. No. Its not their skin color, but does rhyme with crime.

24 minutes ago, Aristides said:

So not even twice as many whites even though they represent five times the population. 

Your data only represents a narrative. Want actual data, look at the volume of fatherless homes, vs their white counterparts. Volume of high schools drop outs. Unemployment. Expecting equality to state the system isn't racist, is insanely lazy as it ignores the issues within the communities that are plagued with crime.

27 minutes ago, Aristides said:

I find it interesting that you have to resort to comparing police with gangs.

Am not. Am saying innocent black civilians are likeliest to be killed by bullets without a name on them. Many of them kids.

I was pointing to the hypocrisy in the outrage when a white cop does it, which is seen as f***ed up, and when its done via black on black crime, which is seen as the way it is.

Thats disgusting.

The fact you can't see a son, a daughter and only see a gang member, almost as if it were trash taking itself out, is you not being in a good position to lecture me in. I grew up in these environments. 

Sounds like you should take your own advice:

30 minutes ago, Aristides said:

should be ashamed.

 

[robosmith]

7 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Not at all what I said. Both are disgusting. What I am saying, is the outrage about the latter only, is hypocritical. 

Isn't anyone being shot by a cop disgusting, by your stance? Or only if they fit into a narrative? Otherwise why are they any different? 

The innocent bystanders routinely hit by stray bullets, are not. A lot of these victims end up being kids in the wrong place.

Also, a lot of gang initiations involve shooting and killing someone. A lot of times, these victims wind up being innocent, or at the very least, unarmed.

Lastly a "thug" needing a gun to protect themselves, or to sell drugs is part of the issue to begin with.

The lack of father figures, makes gangs highly attractive. If I didn't have a strong mother, I easily could have joined a gang.

The fact you see them as armed so not mattering, proves you never have seen the mothers having to pick up the pieces.

One of my childhood friends followed the wrong path (didn't have a good mother like I did), and joined a gang. He was lost, and found brotherhood with these people.

Was starting to turn his life around, when his past caught up to him. Someone had put a price on his head.

He opened his front door, the shooter asked for his name, and the rest was history as he was riddled with bullets. No weapons on him.

His family, his girlfriend having to pick up the pieces over the senseless crime over a perceived slight from a rival.

If you understood the black community, you would know something petty like not giving dap to someone because you didn't see them, could fester a massive beef, due to the perceived disrespect.

But since he was in a gang, all is good and you want to lecture me a out caring about black lives?

Give me a break. You should be ashamed of yourself.

People like you don't even remotely understand what being black is like, but want to shame me for not being offended by a dumb comment Musk made when people are literally assaulting Jewish people and calling for their erasure in marches.

Be consistent with your outrage, or stop acting like you actually give a shit.

There is a HUGE difference between a gang banger shooting an armed gang banger and a cop shooting a guy in his car who is just reaching for his license.

I just don't believe that accidental shootings of innocent bystanders makes up a significant percentage of black shooting deaths, tragic as they are.

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

And this @Rebound is what I mean by "grossly warped narrative".

If you are stupid enough to pull a gun on a cop, ya gits wut ya pays fer. 

The taser in my example was not a gun and it was the COP'S TASER. 

Out of range and shooting back while running was NO THREAT to the cop who killed him cause he shot the LAST charge in the taser and MISSED. Duh

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

And @robosmith, nobody says black lives don't matter. 

Must you be such an insufferable panty-waste?

Cops say it when they cavalierly shoot unarmed black men and have OTHER OPTIONS.

Must you always be REFLEXIVELY DENSE?

[Nationalist]

12 minutes ago, robosmith said:

The taser in my example was not a gun and it was the COP'S TASER. 

Out of range and shooting back while running was NO THREAT to the cop who killed him cause he shot the LAST charge in the taser and MISSED. Duh

Cops say it when they cavalierly shoot unarmed black men and have OTHER OPTIONS.

Must you always be REFLEXIVELY DENSE?

And what was the guy doing with the cop's taser?

Must you always be so limp?

When a cop sees a weapon pulled on him or her, the cop's first responsibility is to live.!

Edited December 1, 2023 by Nationalist