President Newsom

[WestCanMan]

Can you even imagine a time in the future when a Dem president could run things smoothly? 

A time where wars weren't breaking out all over the world, and without an unending stream of racially divisive drivel from the WH? 

Obama's presidency was characterized by wars that he started, or wars that started because of his lack of foresight, including the genocide in Levant, plus racial strife at home on a drastic level. 

Biden's presidency was even worse than Obama's in terms of the wars, the divisive drivel is much worse even though he choose partisan division instead of racist division (I actually don't blame Biden specifically for the anti-Semitism, say what you want about his party in general), but even the economy tanked under Biden. He's actually a worse president than Obama, and that's not easy to do. 

I would hate to see another Dem in charge, they're absolutely horrible people, but I think that with the help of the MSM, the FBI, and a host of disreputable judges, the Dems are gonna win again.

Which one of the current lot would be an improvement over Jo-Bama? 

Kamala is just as racist as Obama, maybe even worse. She's just as dumb as Joe, with the same lack of charisma and awareness. Sadly there's no one for her to sleep with to help her country out. In what way could she possibly be an improvement?

Peter 'n Booty Judge is weak, stupid, dull and nerdy. He has never run anything effectively. ZEEEEEEEEEroooooooooooo. I think he's weak enough to embolden America's enemies but I think he would actually be way less interested in creating division than Obama and Nexelsrent were. 

Is Gavin Newsom a pro-racism guy? I don't even know. He doesn't strike me as being as weak as Biden or Obama, but his 'white GQ bro' image might incite even more anti-America hostility abroad: people hate whites would really hate Newsom. 

Newsom might be serviceable, and I have no doubt that he'd be a vast improvement over Joe the divisive loser. I can't see any way around the eventuality of Prez Newsom in 2025, although the US really does need Trump again. 

[Jack9000]

obama was a fine president .  and calling pete weak is abit dumb the dude was in the military far from weak let me guess you think he is weak because he's gay ? biden and harris both need to go though they been awful.. the dems would be fine if they could get behind the mich governor lady or  the kentucky guy andy that won reelection tonight as governor for 2028

Edited November 8, 2023 by Jack9000

[Rebound]

I would vote for Newsom in a heartbeat. He is the best candidate by far. 

[CrakHoBarbie]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

I would vote for Newsom in a heartbeat. He is the best candidate by far. 

Newsom will most likely become POTUS within the next 10 years.

He has my approval.

[Fluffypants]

Yeah Newsome is the best, he presided over the worst migration out of his state. His city streets are covered in poop, needles and homeless people.

Cost of real estate is out of control and they are one the most heavily taxed state in the union and he and his party have managed to decimate the once burgeoning middle class.

Yep I want someone with his proven track record to be our President.

 

[reason10]

8 hours ago, Rebound said:

I would vote for Newsom in a heartbeat. He is the best candidate by far. 

Newsome is the worst governor in the history of CaliFAGula. He would actually break Unelected Joe's record by being an even worse president.

Only uneducated idi0ts voted for him in the Queer State. And only uneducated idi0ts who hate America would vote for him for president, if the DemoNNNNNazi party were stupid enough to nominate him.

4 hours ago, Fluffypants said:

Yeah Newsome is the best, he presided over the worst migration out of his state. His city streets are covered in poop, needles and homeless people.

Cost of real estate is out of control and they are one the most heavily taxed state in the union and he and his party have managed to decimate the once burgeoning middle class.

Yep I want someone with his proven track record to be our President.

 

Then again, Newsome may accomplish something even the Trump wall couldn't. He could ass fugg this country so bad that the wetbacks would actually swim back across the Rio Grande.

[Rebound]

14 hours ago, Fluffypants said:

Yeah Newsome is the best, he presided over the worst migration out of his state. His city streets are covered in poop, needles and homeless people.

Cost of real estate is out of control and they are one the most heavily taxed state in the union and he and his party have managed to decimate the once burgeoning middle class.

Yep I want someone with his proven track record to be our President.

 

You could say that of every governor in the country right now.  There is a nation-wide opioid epidemic, a nation-wide immigration crisis and a nation-wide crime problem. 
 

California is a state of 33 million. On its own, it is the 6th largest economy in the world.  California is far ahead of most states in per Capita income, wealth, in business innovation, education, and on and on. Housing is expensive because the economy is insanely hot and everybody wants to live in beautiful sunny California.  

[ironstone]

9 minutes ago, Rebound said:

You could say that of every governor in the country right now.  There is a nation-wide opioid epidemic, a nation-wide immigration crisis and a nation-wide crime problem. 
 

California is a state of 33 million. On its own, it is the 6th largest economy in the world.  California is far ahead of most states in per Capita income, wealth, in business innovation, education, and on and on. Housing is expensive because the economy is insanely hot and everybody wants to live in beautiful sunny California.  

There does seem to be quite a lot people and businesses that are leaving California for various reasons. High taxes, high crime, filthy streets etc.

You are correct about the nation-wide problems with opioids, immigration and crime. Joe Biden certainly deserves some of the blame for these problems.

I think Gavin Newsom would be a disaster as President. But he probably has a very good shot at winning in the future, largely due to his very slick/polished image.  As we know, image is more important than actual policies to many voters.

[Rebound]

Just now, ironstone said:

There does seem to be quite a lot people and businesses that are leaving California for various reasons. High taxes, high crime, filthy streets etc.

You are correct about the nation-wide problems with opioids, immigration and crime. Joe Biden certainly deserves some of the blame for these problems.

I think Gavin Newsom would be a disaster as President. But he probably has a very good shot at winning in the future, largely due to his very slick/polished image.  As we know, image is more important than actual policies to many voters.

WOW. Genius. 
Some businesses are leaving the largest state in the nation. Sure.  It’s called outsourcing.  
 

California and New York are the most advanced economies in America, by far.  California is by far America’s greatest business incubator, in all sorts of fields.  Hippy-dippy Berkeley has had many very successful companies launch, across all sorts of fields. And Palo Alto, home of Stanford, has seen even more.  
 

But, sure, with the billions and billions of dollars of wealth came higher real estate prices, driving up costs for lower income people.  Then again, a LOT of Californians figured out they could sell a home they owned half a million or more on, pay off their mortgage and buy a far larger house in another state for CASH with the money they had left over. It worked out great for them! 

[Nationalist]

Oh Lookie Lookie.

A crack ho and the Tweenkie contingent like a rich kid who will do and say anything as long as its in vogue and the moment. How...woke of them.

Bottom line...Newsome has made California a train wreck and these fine wet noodles want more of him.

I guess that about says it all with respect to who wants the best for the nation...and who wants to virtue signal regardless of the consequences.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

WOW. Genius. 
Some businesses are leaving the largest state in the nation. Sure.  It’s called outsourcing.  

1) Losing tens of thousands of Tesla, Toyota, etc jobs permanently is a drastic loss for any state. The exact reason isn't 'outsourcing', it's "Newsom's failed policies".

2) Are Texas and Florida 'insourcing'? ?

FYI the goal of any state/country is never to drive away the highest-paying jobs in the world. Those types of businesses build entire towns and cities. The tax base from those places rivals a small country.

When your country loses out just because of one man's failure to understand the business climate, the economic impact lasts generations.

Newsom is an abject failure by the 2 most basic, central themes of gov't: 1) keep people safe, and 2) build an economy.

If your city is levelled by a meteor while you're away on vacation, and you're forced to move your family somewhere else and find a new career, you're gonna wanna go to the safest neighbourhood you can afford where there are good jobs. That is, you're gonna move to a place where a governor like DeSantis or Abbot has been busy improving things, not to a place like California that's in sharp decline. 

[Rebound]

7 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

1) Losing tens of thousands of Tesla, Toyota, etc jobs permanently is a drastic loss for any state. The exact reason isn't 'outsourcing', it's "Newsom's failed policies".

2) Are Texas and Florida 'insourcing'? ?

FYI the goal of any state/country is never to drive away the highest-paying jobs in the world. Those types of businesses build entire towns and cities. The tax base from those places rivals a small country.

When your country loses out just because of one man's failure to understand the business climate, the economic impact lasts generations.

Newsom is an abject failure by the 2 most basic, central themes of gov't: 1) keep people safe, and 2) build an economy.

If your city is levelled by a meteor while you're away on vacation, and you're forced to move your family somewhere else and find a new career, you're gonna wanna go to the safest neighbourhood you can afford where there are good jobs. That is, you're gonna move to a place where a governor like DeSantis or Abbot has been busy improving things, not to a place like California that's in sharp decline. 

California has the 4th highest per Capita GDP, behind New York, Massachusetts and Washington. 
 

California’s the biggest state, so it will always have the largest raw number of everything.  Big whoop. They are the leader.  

[ironstone]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

WOW. Genius. 
Some businesses are leaving the largest state in the nation. Sure.  It’s called outsourcing.

Wow! Talk about rose coloured glasses!?

[WestCanMan]

45 minutes ago, Rebound said:

California has the 4th highest per Capita GDP, behind New York, Massachusetts and Washington. 
 

California’s the biggest state, so it will always have the largest raw number of everything.  Big whoop. They are the leader.  

That wasn't even an attempt at a reply to what I was talking about. It's partisan jibber-jabber. 

Your wife just left you for someone else, but you have the greenest lawn on your street...

[Rebound]

26 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

That wasn't even an attempt at a reply to what I was talking about. It's partisan jibber-jabber. 

Your wife just left you for someone else, but you have the greenest lawn on your street...

Your comment is just nonsense. California is the leading state in the nation and you pick out three of 10,000 figures and call it failure.  

[robosmith]

17 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Your comment is just nonsense. California is the leading state in the nation and you pick out three of 10,000 figures and call it failure.  

IF people were leaving CA en masse, RE prices would be declining instead of gaining at record levels. 

Prices are high because CA is where there is opportunity and great environment.

FWIW, I've never seen a needle or poop on the streets of San Diego or LA. I'm sure there are some in neighborhoods I never visit.

It certainly is NOT the governor's responsibility to keep city streets clean. Duh

Edited November 9, 2023 by robosmith

[WestCanMan]

16 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Your comment is just nonsense. California is the leading state in the nation and you pick out three of 10,000 figures and call it failure.  

Dude, California's current economy is not a feather in Newsom's cap, at all, it literally has nothing to do with him. That's ALL based on factors that he has no control of, such as geography and climate, its existence within a powerhouse nation, and the governance of his predecessors. 

Cali is spiralling downwards under his leadership. That's what he gets 'credit' for. Negative growth and increasing crime. YAY!

[impartialobserver]

having been to CA more than anyone else on this forum (and its probably not even close).. the reason that folks are leaving is simple.. high cost of living. High housing costs coupled with high taxes (income taxes and vehicle registrations being the two that raise eyebrows the most). As to who is leaving.. it is also pretty clear. It is the middle income 45 to 60 year old bracket that is leaving for NV, ID, AZ, and UT. As for Newsom.. not so sure that he would win. Yes, he has the necessary irrational self confidence needed for a presidential campaign but if you really drill down into his ways.. he is a bit scatterbrained and out of touch with the rural areas. 

Edited November 9, 2023 by impartialobserver

[robosmith]

5 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

having been to CA more than anyone else on this forum (and its probably not even close)..

So you're a resident? Lived here longer than the 43 years I have lived in CA?

 

5 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

the reason that folks are leaving is simple.. high cost of living. High housing costs coupled with high taxes (income taxes and vehicle registrations being the two that raise eyebrows the most).

My COL is really quote reasonable. However I've owned my townhouse since 1990. My car reg is $240 this year for 2017 Accord Hybrid. Meanwhile, despite very high electricity rates, my energy costs are reasonable due to the moderate climate near the coast in San Diego.

5 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

As to who is leaving.. it is also pretty clear. It is the middle income 45 to 60 year old bracket that is leaving for NV, ID, AZ, and UT. As for Newsom.. not so sure that he would win. Yes, he has the necessary irrational self confidence needed for a presidential campaign but if you really drill down into his ways.. he is a bit scatterbrained and out of touch with the rural areas. 

Not many voters will "drill down into his ways."

[impartialobserver]

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

So you're a resident? Lived here longer than the 43 years I have lived in CA?

 

My COL is really quote reasonable. However I've owned my townhouse since 1990. My car reg is $240 this year for 2017 Accord Hybrid. Meanwhile, despite very high electricity rates, my energy costs are reasonable due to the moderate climate near the coast in San Diego.

Not many voters will "drill down into his ways."

I did not know that you lived in CA so you have me beat. However, I live 12 miles from the state line and since moving to Reno in 2010.. have been to CA 100 times at least. Having been to every corner of it.. even the very remote NE corner. 

In most of the cities of CA.. the housing costs are higher than the national average. Furthermore, they are higher than what they find in NV, UT, ID, and MT.. hence why they move. For someone hitting the 25-35 age bracket and hoping to buy a home in SF, LA, SD (and surrounding areas).. they are in for quite the task. Average home price in San Jose.. 1.4 million. Average home price in Reno (495K). As to what Newsom can do about the very expensive cost of housing in most of the populated areas.. not sure. The lure of it is the climate and proximity to certain amenities (outdoor recreation, wine country, pro sports, the ocean). I understand the appeal... but do not want to pay the state income tax nor the costs associated with owning a vehicle. To register my 2014 nissan versa in Washoe County, it was $42 this year. 

[Hodad]

4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

1) Losing tens of thousands of Tesla, Toyota, etc jobs permanently is a drastic loss for any state. The exact reason isn't 'outsourcing', it's "Newsom's failed policies".

2) Are Texas and Florida 'insourcing'? ?

FYI the goal of any state/country is never to drive away the highest-paying jobs in the world. Those types of businesses build entire towns and cities. The tax base from those places rivals a small country.

When your country loses out just because of one man's failure to understand the business climate, the economic impact lasts generations.

Newsom is an abject failure by the 2 most basic, central themes of gov't: 1) keep people safe, and 2) build an economy.

If your city is levelled by a meteor while you're away on vacation, and you're forced to move your family somewhere else and find a new career, you're gonna wanna go to the safest neighbourhood you can afford where there are good jobs. That is, you're gonna move to a place where a governor like DeSantis or Abbot has been busy improving things, not to a place like California that's in sharp decline. 

Hey, thanks for the fake news report from inside your bubble of delusion. Meanwhile, here's California's actual economic trajectory.   Other than the hiccup of the pandemic, pretty rosy. Newsom owns that post-pandemic spike, btw.

[Deluge]

On 11/7/2023 at 7:08 PM, WestCanMan said:

Can you even imagine a time in the future when a Dem president could run things smoothly? 

A time where wars weren't breaking out all over the world, and without an unending stream of racially divisive drivel from the WH? 

Obama's presidency was characterized by wars that he started, or wars that started because of his lack of foresight, including the genocide in Levant, plus racial strife at home on a drastic level. 

Biden's presidency was even worse than Obama's in terms of the wars, the divisive drivel is much worse even though he choose partisan division instead of racist division (I actually don't blame Biden specifically for the anti-Semitism, say what you want about his party in general), but even the economy tanked under Biden. He's actually a worse president than Obama, and that's not easy to do. 

I would hate to see another Dem in charge, they're absolutely horrible people, but I think that with the help of the MSM, the FBI, and a host of disreputable judges, the Dems are gonna win again.

Which one of the current lot would be an improvement over Jo-Bama? 

Kamala is just as racist as Obama, maybe even worse. She's just as dumb as Joe, with the same lack of charisma and awareness. Sadly there's no one for her to sleep with to help her country out. In what way could she possibly be an improvement?

Peter 'n Booty Judge is weak, stupid, dull and nerdy. He has never run anything effectively. ZEEEEEEEEEroooooooooooo. I think he's weak enough to embolden America's enemies but I think he would actually be way less interested in creating division than Obama and Nexelsrent were. 

Is Gavin Newsom a pro-racism guy? I don't even know. He doesn't strike me as being as weak as Biden or Obama, but his 'white GQ bro' image might incite even more anti-America hostility abroad: people hate whites would really hate Newsom. 

Newsom might be serviceable, and I have no doubt that he'd be a vast improvement over Joe the divisive loser. I can't see any way around the eventuality of Prez Newsom in 2025, although the US really does need Trump again. 

Newsom would be just as bad as the others. Remember, he's driving the nation's most influential state into the ground. There's no reason to think that he wouldn't continue on that same path of destruction as President of the country. 

[WestCanMan]

Just now, Deluge said:

Newsom would be just as bad as the others. Remember, he's driving the nation's most influential state into the ground. There's no reason to think that he wouldn't continue on that same path of destruction as President of the country. 

I don't doubt that he'd have the same bad intentions, and run the country into the ground, he's just electable enough to be pushed across the finish line by the FBI and MSM. 

[reason10]

On 11/8/2023 at 3:47 PM, Rebound said:

I would vote for Newsom in a heartbeat. He is the best candidate by far. 

I thank God that id1ots like you are in the minority in  America. (And enforcing voter laws will make you creeps less dangerous.)

Newsome is not qualified to run a lemonade stand. He has turned CaliFAGula into a third world shithole, where people are moving out in droves. He is a left wing Nazi ignoramus who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. 

The last decent governor that faggggg state had was Ronald Reagan. From there, it went down the shitter.

[WestCanMan]

4 minutes ago, reason10 said:

I thank God that id1ots like you are in the minority in  America. (And enforcing voter laws will make you creeps less dangerous.)

Newsome is not qualified to run a lemonade stand. He has turned CaliFAGula into a third world shithole, where people are moving out in droves. He is a left wing Nazi ignoramus who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. 

The last decent governor that faggggg state had was Ronald Reagan. From there, it went down the shitter.

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