OH CANADA, how low we've sunk

herbie · November 17, 2023

How dare Trudeau object to Chinese election interference and India sending agents to murder Canadians right in the streets! It's ALL Justin's fault.
Look how far Canada's sunk, a PM that won't even roll over and assume the position like a good Canuck. Ya'd almost think he had some of his Dad's balls....

TreeBeard · November 17, 2023

18 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Yes, an example of the lawlessness.

You follow all traffic laws in your car? You never speed and you always come to a full stop at every stop sign? Have ever ever run a yellow light?

CdnFox · November 17, 2023

1 hour ago, taxme said:

But of course, ass. If you do not like what others have to say, that is contrary to what you have to babble on about, then they pretty much have to be stupid and ill-informed.

they don't HAVE to be. I assume it's their choice

Don't try to make it my fault that you're dumber than a brick. Several people here have told you the same things i have and pointed out the same facts. YOUR inability to grasp it is not anyone else's fault.

At the end of the day you side with the terrorists, and you want to deny any truth that doesn't support them. That puts you in direct conflict with the facts.

Your blathering is not 'truth'. It's just sick.

Here's the truth:

Gaza launched a horrific attack on israel, killing thousands of women and children in a horrific fashion.
After this act of war, israel correctly declared war and advised that they would be attacking Gaza until hamas was wiped out.
hamas has hidden behind civillians and is using them as meat shields. The civillians have supported hamas knowing that they intend to attack israel like this and have several times in the past.
Every death, israeli or Gazan, is a direct result of the gov't of Gaza and the people who support them in their efforts.

And that's true whether you get your fill of death porn or not.

taxme · November 17, 2023

3 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

If you get to revert to a Euro-centric model of what Canada should be, why is it not right for the people who were here before Europeans to do the same? “Kick out all the other cultures other than the First Peoples”.

Well, let them go ahead and try to kick the British/Europeans out. If they were able to do so then that would be a very sad and sorry day for the Native Indians if they ever did that. Who is going to give them all that free money or buy them all those toys like trucks and quads motor boats?

They never built anything in their lives and they have no clue about installing running water or electricity in their taxpayer bought homes. I would love to see that happen, and say, come back in five years, and see what things look and are like then. We would have to do it all over again for them. Just my opinion.

taxme · November 18, 2023

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

they don't HAVE to be. I assume it's their choice

Don't try to make it my fault that you're dumber than a brick. Several people here have told you the same things i have and pointed out the same facts. YOUR inability to grasp it is not anyone else's fault.

At the end of the day you side with the terrorists, and you want to deny any truth that doesn't support them. That puts you in direct conflict with the facts.

Your blathering is not 'truth'. It's just sick.

Here's the truth:

Gaza launched a horrific attack on israel, killing thousands of women and children in a horrific fashion.

After this act of war, israel correctly declared war and advised that they would be attacking Gaza until hamas was wiped out.

hamas has hidden behind civillians and is using them as meat shields. The civillians have supported hamas knowing that they intend to attack israel like this and have several times in the past.

Every death, israeli or Gazan, is a direct result of the gov't of Gaza and the people who support them in their efforts.

And that's true whether you get your fill of death porn or not.

Bricks are useful, you are not. Chuckle.

I still want to see those death porn pictures or videos, as you like to call them, which you seem to not be able to produce as of yet. So far, one of your Israeli supporters here posted some pictures of bombed out buildings and vehicles and that was it, no dead bodies. He still cannot seem to find and show me any of those terrible porn pictures or videos that you stupid brainwashed dummies says is out there. Do you people just enjoy lying?

If you want to convince me then where are the pictures or videos. Stop with your stupid attacks and insults that I am on the terrorists side and not on Israel's side. Just fyi, I am not on either side. I despise both Israel and Hamas. Both terrorists are just living in rock and sand shitty countries. Why America supports Israel is beyond me because there is nothing in it for the American people except for more debt from the billions of tax dollars that the American taxpayer's have to fork over to Israel every year. It's not such a great deal for Americans except grief.

And that is the sad truth whether you like to hear it or not. Now one more time/ Where are those porn pictures? ?

TreeBeard · November 18, 2023

1 hour ago, taxme said:

Well, let them go ahead and try to kick the British/Europeans out.

But, you can’t kick out non-white people either…. So if we shouldn’t suggest it unless we can do it, then why are you suggesting it?

I was asking if it’s right for you to suggest it, why isn’t it right that you leave?

CdnFox · November 18, 2023

53 minutes ago, taxme said:

Bricks are useful, you are not. Chuckle.

Bricks are incredibly dumb. Hey - maybe that means you're useful? Snort

53 minutes ago, taxme said:

I still want to see those death porn pictures or videos

That just means you're still messed up.

53 minutes ago, taxme said:

if you want to convince me then where are the pictures or videos.

well as already noted by a number of people that's just ridiculous. you won't take their word for it but you'd take easily faked pictures for it. Dude - that is just beyond useless. We assign qualified people from our gov'ts and other gov'ts to examine the evidence along with correspondents and they confirm the reports but it's just morally and ethcially wrong on so many levels to parade the bodies around the internet for the enjoyment of hamas supporters.

It's not a reasonable position to take that you will not accept the word of a group of people but you would accept pictures which in this day and age AI can generate at random in 2 seconds as being gospel. And it's just Ghoulish to do hamas' work for them spreading pictures of their massacre they're so proud of. It's victimizing those people a second time.

And i don't particularly feel the need to convince you of anything. I"m commenting on your position, not attempting to sway your opinion.

And that's the simple truth. You need to stop supporting terrorism like that. You need to think about what it means to prop up those dead bodies and parade them for your amusement and enjoyment as it if makes any difference logically to your position.

blackbird · November 18, 2023

4 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

You follow all traffic laws in your car? You never speed and you always come to a full stop at every stop sign? Have ever ever run a yellow light?

Of course I try hard to follow all traffic laws. I see many lawless drivers speeding past me when they get the chance in a 50 KPH zone. Do you not even attempt to follow the traffic laws? Or do you think it is not important? That's how you come across. Yes I come to a full stop. I see many people who don't though. How do mean run a yellow light. We are allowed to cross in a yellow light if there is not enough time to stop normally. Did you know that?

I am Groot · November 18, 2023

On 11/16/2023 at 6:14 PM, CdnFox said:

We are in no way 'remote' from anybody It's just a silly thing to say - we're right across from japan and china, closer than most european countries and do more business with them, and while we're sparsely populated for our land mass we're still a major factor as i said economically and resource wise. Few people grow more wheat, we have large supplies of oil, etc.

Actually, they have a point. Countries (other than the US) always pay a lot more attention to those nearby. So Japan will pay a lot more attention to Taiwan, Korea, Singapore, Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia, and of course, China than us. Same for Europe. The French care about what's going on in the UK, Belgium, The Netherlands, Germany, Spain, etc., a lot more than about what's happening in far-off Canada. Virtually all our oil and gas goes to the US. Our food products go into a great, sloshing pool of the same from Brazil, Argentina, Russia, Australia, Ukraine (who knew Ukraine was 5th largest wheat exporter until the war? Canada is 7th btw). But aside from those in the business ordinary people pay little attention to where such stuff comes from.

On 11/16/2023 at 6:14 PM, CdnFox said:

A quick search on the BBC website shows a story about canada every day going back days (only read one page of hits) and they frequently mention us.

I read that site every day. It knows you're from Canada. So it shows you Canadian stories. If you go to Europe or Africa and go on the site it won't be showing you those same stories.

On 11/16/2023 at 6:14 PM, CdnFox said:

ANd when we had the truck protests people all over the world had demonstrations and such in 'sympathy'.

I'd say there was a lot of amazement that boring Canada had such things happening. And even more that an orderly place like this didn't seem capable of doing anything to stop them. It would be like stories of riots and shootouts in the streets in Sweden!

Uh, Sweden from twenty years ago. Today, of course, now that they've let in all those Muslims shootouts in the streets and riots are pretty commonplace there. They're even talking about bringing the army in to get control over the Muslim gangs that use hand grenades, RPGs, and other explosives during their daily combat.

Say it with me! Diversity is our streeeenngghhhtthhh!

Edited November 18, 2023 by I am Groot

I am Groot · November 18, 2023

19 hours ago, taxme said:

There was no 16 million people murdered in concentration camps, dummy. What utter bullshit indeed. Where did you get those wild numbers from anyway, dummy? The ones that one the war?

Actually, they didn't all die in concentration camps. Sometimes they were just shot dead in their homes or in ditches or wherever the Nazis found them. I was off by a million, too. It was 17 million. The numbers aren't hard to find. And they mostly came from the Germans themselves, who kept very good records.

https://www.statista.com/chart/24024/number-of-victims-nazi-regime/

19 hours ago, taxme said:

I thank gawd that we still have an uncontrolled internet because people like you would love to see the internet more controlled so people like myself and the conservative alternative media could not be heard.

Well, to be honest, yes.

19 hours ago, taxme said:

You truly are a communist sympathizer, aren't you, comrade?

Mmmm, not so much.

19 hours ago, taxme said:

Maybe one day when we conservatives take over the world we then can start to censor your lefty liberal opinions and points of view and lets see how you like it?

Oh, believe me, I have no doubt if "conservatives" like you were to take over I'd expect a lot of censoring going on - and a lot of exterminations too.

I am Groot · November 18, 2023

19 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

If you get to revert to a Euro-centric model of what Canada should be, why is it not right for the people who were here before Europeans to do the same? “Kick out all the other cultures other than the First Peoples”.

The largest number controls how things go. Which is why it's really incredibly DUMB to not want to be the largest number. And even DUMBER to think that when the largest number of people are from the third world - which has no lengthy cultural history of democracy or freedom - are in charge they're going to treat us with anything like the respect we treat them. Many of them are like MAGA types, completely uninterested in compromising with others.

I am Groot · November 18, 2023

17 hours ago, herbie said:

How dare Trudeau object to Chinese election interference

Oh, boy. Giving Trudeau credit for objecting to Chinese election interference after how many years of denying it and doing nothing about it and covering it up? And he STILL hasn't done a bloody thing to stop more of the same because he knows it's benefiting him!

17 hours ago, herbie said:

and India sending agents to murder Canadians right in the streets!

Mmm, perhaps if we were to enforce our own laws against people coming here and carrying on their own private wars against their real homelands that sort of thing wouldn't happen. But the Sikhs are an important voting block so it's carte blanche for them to do whatever they want here!

So India is starting to flex its muscles and take out terrorist organizers in foreign countries much like Israel does, or the US. The US and Israel are famous for murdering plotters who had found a welcoming embrace in foreign countries like Syria or Yemen or Somalia where extradition isn't an option.

17 hours ago, herbie said:

It's ALL Justin's fault.
Look how far Canada's sunk, a PM that won't even roll over and assume the position like a good Canuck. Ya'd almost think he had some of his Dad's balls....

Let's see. India basically expelled over 40 Canadian diplomats for no reason and our response was to... whine. Oh yeah, that's really showing some balls there, champ. I'm sure we even wrote a stern and indignant letter to them! Much like the ones we sent to China when they had kidnapped Canadians and were violating trade agreements to punish us for arresting one of their princesses.

OftenWrong · November 18, 2023

6 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Many of them are like MAGA types, completely uninterested in compromising with others.

Is the left who are bringing them in large numbers without providing a realistic opportunity, that's creating this mess. Your obsession with MAGA types is misguided, they are not bringing this. In fact they would want the opposite, get them out.

At the very least, bring them in a way that is sensible. What we are doing is irresponsible and will harm the refugees, and us. Thanks almost singularly to Canada's "Golden Boy", not Trump...

I am Groot · November 18, 2023

18 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Is the left who are bringing them in large numbers without providing a realistic opportunity, that's creating this mess. Your obsession with MAGA types is misguided, they are not bringing this. In fact they would want the opposite, get them out.

I can be wholly against Trudeau and his brainless, dumbass policies and beliefs - like immigration - and also wholly against Trump and his brainless, dumbass policies and beliefs.

OftenWrong · November 18, 2023

1 minute ago, I am Groot said:

I can be wholly against Trudeau and his brainless, dumbass policies and beliefs - like immigration - and also wholly against Trump and his brainless, dumbass policies and beliefs.

In a way they are polar opposites, but I will give credit where due. In Trump's case, banning mandatory CRT training for federal employees is an example of the fight against wokism. Where Biden brought that immediately back in. Biden and Trudeau are much more closely aligned. They are the front face of wokism.

Now find me a politician, Canadian or American, that openly opposes this wokism. Will be a short list, I'll wager.

And Trump's name will be on it.

I am Groot · November 18, 2023

1 hour ago, OftenWrong said:

In a way they are polar opposites, but I will give credit where due. In Trump's case, banning mandatory CRT training for federal employees is an example of the fight against wokism.

Sure. And I fully supported that decision. But he didn't make it in 2016 when he was elected, now did he?. He didn't do a damn thing until four years later in the runup to the 2020 election. He didn't care about it. Someone told him he would get some votes by doing it so he signed a piece of paper.

Just like he did nothing about his great wall until the Democrats took over the House and he could use it as a club against them. That was a central part of his campaign. He should have had that wall going up within months of getting elected. But he didn't really care. It was just an vote-getting tool.

Trump is not the guy to do anything good in America. You'd be better off backing someone like de Santis or Haley. If I was an American, given Biden as the alternative, I would vote for either one of them. But not Trump.

CdnFox · November 18, 2023

2 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

In a way they are polar opposites, but I will give credit where due. In Trump's case, banning mandatory CRT training for federal employees is an example of the fight against wokism. Where Biden brought that immediately back in. Biden and Trudeau are much more closely aligned. They are the front face of wokism.

Now find me a politician, Canadian or American, that openly opposes this wokism. Will be a short list, I'll wager.

And Trump's name will be on it.

Well there's the thing - you can even break it down further per individual and be in favour of trump's economic policy and be against him whipping out his 'button' to compare sizes with "little rocket" man.

And you can even have other alterior motives - honestly i find the drama trump causes fascinating and hilarious and entirely entertaining and in find the lengths to which the dems have gone to weaponize the courts and law enforcement to try to stop him deeply disturbing - so i often wind up defending him even tho i'm not a strong supporter. And then there's those who just feel he's better than the other guy, who sadly passed away about 9 years ago.

TreeBeard · November 18, 2023

2 hours ago, I am Groot said:

The largest number controls how things go.

That’s simply not true in Canada.

I am Groot · November 19, 2023

On 11/18/2023 at 12:54 PM, CdnFox said:

Well there's the thing - you can even break it down further per individual and be in favour of trump's economic policy and be against him whipping out his 'button' to compare sizes with "little rocket" man.

Trump does not have an economic policy.

Or any other policy.

He babbles things into the microphone, but where was his 'perfect' healthcare policy? It didn't exist. All he wanted to do was wreck Obamacare. He had nothing to replace it with. Where is his wall? He forgot about it as soon as he got elected, right up until the Democrats took over the House and he could use it as a cudgel to beat them with. Where was his great half trillion dollar bill to improve infrastructure? He forgot about that too. Just like he forgot about not taking vacations. LOL. He took more vacations than any president in history. He was also going to balance the budget. That sure as hell didn't work out!

On 11/18/2023 at 12:54 PM, CdnFox said:

And you can even have other alterior motives - honestly i find the drama trump causes fascinating and hilarious

I don't mind them. What I do mind is his attitude towards national defense, his mocking, ridiculing and ignoring of what his generals and his intelligence people tell him - when he'll even let them talk to him. His arrogant belief that 'he knows better' than them, and his kowtowing to dictators.

Also not happy at his disdain for democracy, and efforts to prevent his successor from taking office.

I am Groot · November 19, 2023

On 11/18/2023 at 1:02 PM, TreeBeard said:

That’s simply not true in Canada.

It's true that we try to frustrate the democratic will of the people here. The elites have done their best to ensure that only they are heard on major public platforms and that views that run contrary to theirs are mocked and disdained while often being twisted out of shape. They also judicialize parts of governing so that their own appointed judges impose changes they themselves want but which are opposed by large numbers of the electorate.

Nevertheless, when people group up they have electoral power. Just watch Trudeau over Gaza.

TreeBeard · November 20, 2023

6 hours ago, I am Groot said:

It's true that we try to frustrate the democratic will of the people here.

You’ll be glad for it when you’re the minority.

I am Groot · November 20, 2023

15 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

You’ll be glad for it when you’re the minority.

Unlikely. Because when those in the majority have no strong cultural attachment to freedom of speech or expression, no cultural history of compromise, little attachment to western ideals of democracy, well, things can change rapidly. Laws are rewritten, and judges of the same mentality are appointed and promoted.

taxme · November 20, 2023

On 11/17/2023 at 5:05 PM, TreeBeard said:

But, you can’t kick out non-white people either…. So if we shouldn’t suggest it unless we can do it, then why are you suggesting it?

I was asking if it’s right for you to suggest it, why isn’t it right that you leave?

I do not believe that i suggested anything as far as i know? But, why should i leave? I was born here just like native Indians were. And why should native Indians keep getting taxpayer's tax dollars by the millions of dollars every year for decades now when they do nothing to earn those tax dollars? They could not survive without and unless they keep getting the white folk to give them free money.

Just my opinion.

Edited November 20, 2023 by taxme

taxme · November 20, 2023

On 11/17/2023 at 5:10 PM, CdnFox said:

Bricks are incredibly dumb. Hey - maybe that means you're useful? Snort

That just means you're still messed up.

well as already noted by a number of people that's just ridiculous. you won't take their word for it but you'd take easily faked pictures for it. Dude - that is just beyond useless. We assign qualified people from our gov'ts and other gov'ts to examine the evidence along with correspondents and they confirm the reports but it's just morally and ethcially wrong on so many levels to parade the bodies around the internet for the enjoyment of hamas supporters.

It's not a reasonable position to take that you will not accept the word of a group of people but you would accept pictures which in this day and age AI can generate at random in 2 seconds as being gospel. And it's just Ghoulish to do hamas' work for them spreading pictures of their massacre they're so proud of. It's victimizing those people a second time.

And i don't particularly feel the need to convince you of anything. I"m commenting on your position, not attempting to sway your opinion.

And that's the simple truth. You need to stop supporting terrorism like that. You need to think about what it means to prop up those dead bodies and parade them for your amusement and enjoyment as it if makes any difference logically to your position.

You are the one here that is incredibly dumb. You are just a parrot for the Israeli government. That makes you even more dumber. Your head is all mixed up from listening way too much to Israeli propaganda bullshit and lies.

Would you take the word of someone who told you that the sky is starting to fall down or would you question it first? I do not have to believe what your Israeli media has to say as gospel.

Why don't you quite bothering me over stupid nonsense? You know dam well there are no pictures or videos of Hamas has committed any baby killings, buffoon. You just keep coming back and keep showing me that you are just p[lain full of shit. You only go by what others say without question. You really need to show some proof of your lies or i would suggest that you STFU because you are not going to convince me of anything unless you can show proof. I am starting to believe that you are one of those pro Israel zionists that enjoy spreading your own bullshit and lies.

I will ask you one more time? PM me with those pictures of a bunch of murdered beheaded babies which i know already that you cannot. Come on, buffoon, make your day. ?

CdnFox · November 20, 2023

4 minutes ago, taxme said:

You are the one here that is incredibly dumb.

Three days thinking about it and that was the best you could do?

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Would you take the word of someone who told you that the sky is starting to fall down or would you question it first? I do not have to believe what your Israeli media has to say as gospel.

If that 'someone' was a national gov't which had then been fact checked by a number of international sources, OTHER national gov'ts, and a host of media reporters , i'd have to say i might be tempted to get a hard hat and umbrella.

In a case like that the most likely outcome is that it's true.

AND - I would NOT be so mind meltingly stupid as to think if someone had gone through the trouble of fooling ALL those experts - that they woudln't doctor up a picture to hand me as well. It's dumb.

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Why don't you quite bothering me over stupid nonsense?

Why don't you stop bringing up stupid nonsense?

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You know dam well there are no pictures or videos of Hamas has committed any baby killings, buffoon. You just keep coming back and keep showing me that you are just p[lain full of shit. You only go by what others say without question. You really need to show some proof of your lies or i would suggest that you STFU because you are not going to convince me of anything unless you can show proof. I am starting to believe that you are one of those pro Israel zionists that enjoy spreading your own bullshit and lies.

I'm more than satisfied that there are and that they've been seen by people who are fully qualified to say they're real or not. You are not such a person.

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I will ask you one more time? PM me with those pictures of a bunch of murdered beheaded babies which i know already that you cannot. Come on, buffoon, make your day. ?

"I will as you one more time!.... Please send me death porn!!! Please?!!? I've been so lonely...."

Hamas killed women and children in a horrific fashion. It's not like they deny it. What's happening to them and gaza now is a justified response. And you'll have to get your weird freaky kicks somewhere else.