Another example of why their is no dialogue in Canada with the left.

[Nexii]

3 minutes ago, Aristides said:

I find it hard to believe that a kid could come out at school and insist on a certain pronoun without their parents finding out about it whether the school informs them or not.

Yea from other kids, parents, and such. It's also unlikely a kid would come out at school first IMO. I get that sometimes people do staged transition but in the social media age, it's going to be everywhere or nowhere

And as said, if you're actually trans, pronouns are like a bandaid. You need clothes & the hairstyle of the other gender. I could not imagine asking to be called she while showing up to school in guy clothes, lol. Are schools proposing they'd provide all that too?

[WestCanMan]

14 minutes ago, Aristides said:

I find it hard to believe that a kid could come out at school and insist on a certain pronoun without their parents finding out about it whether the school informs them or not.

I think that parents gave school guidance counsellors a lot of respect and let them do their thing until Libs of TikTok came out, and people found out just how activist certain LGBTQ members are, how serious they were about pushing sexual/LGBTQ talking points to children, and how much inappropriate sexual material there is in elementary and middle school libraries. 

You seem to think that this is a cute topic to voice leftist talking points and act like there's nothing wrong here but it's a deadly serious issue. 

Ten years ago we thought that we could send our kids to school and they'd just play and learn and make some friends and get some exercise and now we're learning that some of the people who work in public schools are just not the kind of people who should be allowed to work with children, but the school boards protect those people.

It's honestly not that different from what the Catholic Church did. Apparently everyone who gets a bit of power over kids feels like they own them and they can do whatever they want with them. 

Teachers need to read from the textbooks and stfu. 

[Nationalist]

44 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Explain to Chuds Why they DON'T want that.

Psst...Hey Mike...explain to your death-cult Tweenkies, this.

https://globalnews.ca/news/9971454/polling-canadians-split-gender-trans-issues/

And this

https://www.ipsos.com/en-ca/news-polls/canadians-taxes-fight-climate-change

And especially this

https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/justin-trudeau-should-step-down-before-next-election-majority-of-survey-respondents-say/article_70de9db7-daa7-51aa-909a-987fd30c54bc.html

Have a warm and fuzzy day there...faux conservative.

[Aristides]

7 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I think that parents gave school guidance counsellors a lot of respect and let them do their thing until Libs of TikTok came out, and people found out just how activist certain LGBTQ members are, how serious they were about pushing sexual/LGBTQ talking points to children, and how much inappropriate sexual material there is in elementary and middle school libraries. 

You seem to think that this is a cute topic to voice leftist talking points and act like there's nothing wrong here but it's a deadly serious issue. 

Ten years ago we thought that we could send our kids to school and they'd just play and learn and make some friends and get some exercise and now we're learning that some of the people who work in public schools are just not the kind of people who should be allowed to work with children, but the school boards protect those people.

It's honestly not that different from what the Catholic Church did. Apparently everyone who gets a bit of power over kids feels like they own them and they can do whatever they want with them. 

Teachers need to read from the textbooks and stfu. 

Teachers have a responsibility to all the kids in their classes, not just straight kids.

[WestCanMan]

25 minutes ago, Nexii said:

Yea from other kids, parents, and such. It's also unlikely a kid would come out at school first IMO. I get that sometimes people do staged transition but in the social media age, it's going to be everywhere or nowhere

This isn't about where they transition or whom they tell first, it's about how teachers and counsellors deal with the issues of sexuality/transgenderism/homosexuality in the first place, and whether or not they're encouraging it instead of just explaining it. 

They can go to classrooms and talk to everyone about all sorts of gender/sex issues which are extremely sensitive and complex, and convince kids that they might want to have a private chat with counsellors about it. 

We never thought that those people had their own agendas for children until we saw them brag about it on TikTok. I honestly thought that they were more altruistic than activistic. Now I see that I was being naive.

Kids go through phases and some of them don't really know what's what until their hormones start to kick in. Adults with agendas shouldn't be inserting themselves in that process and trying to guide children to what they personally believe. It's not their business. They're crossing a line that they dare not cross with some parents. 

[Aristides]

Watching news coverage of the demonstrations outside the legislature in Victoria. They asked one little kid why he was there and he said they are trying to make us gay. He didn't come up with that by himself. 

 

[Nationalist]

7 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Teachers have a responsibility to all the kids in their classes, not just straight kids.

Teachers have a responsibility to TEACH all kids in their classes.

Parents have a responsibility to raise and guide their own kids toward success and happiness.

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, Aristides said:

Teachers have a responsibility 

Yes, they do. They have a responsibility to help kids, not an opportunity to mould kids or to sexualize them. 

You're acting like teachers are never guilty of the latter but the cat's way outta the Balenciaga.

This is a discussion about how we put a stop to the second one, it's not some delusional conversation about how perfect teachers are. This is just like the Catholic church sexual interference issues of yesteryear. Apparently no one can be trusted with children to the extent that we did in the past.  

[Nexii]

The interesting thing about that Angus Reid poll was that it said 80% of decided parents would support their children through transition. That's a lot higher than I would have guessed. It's also much higher than support for the LGBT curriculum at about 50%. So that does lead me to believe it's being taught in the wrong ways to some extent. 

[Aristides]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

Yes, they do. They have a responsibility to help kids, not an opportunity to mould kids or to sexualize them. 

You're acting like teachers are never guilty of the latter but the cat's way outta the Balenciaga.

This is a discussion about how we put a stop to the second one, it's not some delusional conversation about how perfect teachers are. This is just like the Catholic church sexual interference issues of yesteryear. Apparently no one can be trusted with children to the extent that we did in the past.  

The have a responsibility to help all kids, not just straight kids.

[WestCanMan]

3 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Watching news coverage of the demonstrations outside the legislature in Victoria. They asked one little kid why he was there and he said they are trying to make us gay. He didn't come up with that by himself. 

 

And you don't think he might have lived it? 

Never believe the children, right Aristedes? Are you a cardinal at the school board? 

[Aristides]

Just now, WestCanMan said:

And you don't think he might have lived it? 

Never believe the children, right Aristedes? Are you a cardinal at the school board? 

No, I don't think he might have lived it and you don't either.

[WestCanMan]

Just now, Aristides said:

The have a responsibility to help all kids, not just straight kids.

Residential school boards had a responsibility to help all First Nations kids get a basic education. I guess that the discussion about residential schools ends there, right Aristedes? We'll just talk about their responsibilities, but NOT what they did. At least, that's what we should do according to your standards.

Ditto for the Catholic priests. They had a responsibility to work in a manner with their kids that their parents expected. That's all we can talk about . Case closed. 

Good talk, kiddo. 

[Moonbox]

On 9/19/2023 at 3:16 PM, Army Guy said:

The left continue the attack on parental rights in this nation, when it comes down to LGBTQ issues, Now the Unions are getting into the act, preparing to join the LGBTQ march and the attack on parental rights, saying that they will be next on the extreme rights attack list if they don't act now....and of course the PM added fuel to the fire by dividing Canadians once again, by pigeon holing the entire group of parents as extreme right...

Do you not see any irony in your thread title, and OP?  

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, Aristides said:

No, I don't think he might have lived it and you don't either.

No, it's not convenient for you to consider that he might have lived it. Never believe the children when they're accusing leftists, but always believe them when they're accusing everyone else. Dr ord, E Jean Caroll, etc...

Hit the skids, pal. 

[Aristides]

2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Residential school boards had a responsibility to help all First Nations kids get a basic education. I guess that the discussion about residential schools ends there, right Aristedes? We'll just talk about their responsibilities, but NOT what they did. At least, that's what we should do according to your standards.

Ditto for the Catholic priests. They had a responsibility to work in a manner with their kids that their parents expected. That's all we can talk about . Case closed. 

Good talk, kiddo. 

What residential school boards?

[Aristides]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

No, it's not convenient for you to consider that he might have lived it. Never believe the children when they're accusing leftists, but always believe them when they're accusing everyone else. Dr ord, E Jean Caroll, etc...

Hit the skids, pal. 

In this case I am highly suspect. He didn't come to this demonstration on his own. You claim kids are being indoctrinated by schools but refuse to accept they could  be indoctrinated by their parents.

[eyeball]

7 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

I have seen countless videos of men who stated they were having menstrual cramps. 

What an odd thing to be watching. Do you turn these videos off when someone suddenly enters the room?

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

... why should I care what you do with your sexual life?

There you have it.

I mean, I asked because I suspected as much.

You don't have to care but it's interesting and likely helpful to the discussion...

[WestCanMan]

9 minutes ago, Aristides said:

In this case I am highly suspect. He didn't come to this demonstration on his own. You claim kids are being indoctrinated by schools but refuse to accept they could be indoctrinated by their parents.

Indoctrinated by schools in something that's really none of their business...

The schools should have people available to help kids who are having a tough time, not to put kids on a path that they weren't aware of. 

All kids are 'indoctrinated' by their parents to some extent. That's why Jews have Jewish kids and Muslims have Muslim kids and Christians have Christian kids and atheists have atheist kids. 

When guidance counsellors have kids, they can teach them to be gay if they want. They just can't teach other people's kids to do that. 

[Aristides]

No one is teaching anyone to be gay.

https://news.gov.bc.ca/factsheets/sexual-orientation-and-gender-identity-sogi-in-schools

[ExFlyer]

7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I mean, I asked because I suspected as much.

You don't have to care but it's interesting and likely helpful to the discussion...

Not really.

I strongly feel there is too much discussion about this sort of thing. It has been blown out of proportion by activists. I strongly suspect 90% (or more) of the people really don't give a rats ass but become involved because a small vocal minority keep on and on and on. Shoving something down peoples throats and being righteous does not make the thing stuck in their throats taste any better.

Making this a thing about children is as farcical as teachers going on strike for more money and saying it is all about the kids.

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, Aristides said:

No one is teaching anyone to be gay.

https://news.gov.bc.ca/factsheets/sexual-orientation-and-gender-identity-sogi-in-schools

NBC News said it, an dthey know everything, so I guess the people on TikTok who said that they actually were doing that were lying. 

[Aristides]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

NBC News said it, an dthey know everything, so I guess the people on TikTok who said that they actually were doing that were lying. 

That's the problem, too many relying their internet bubbles instead of reading the actual government policy. Making and living in their own reality.

[WestCanMan]

11 minutes ago, Aristides said:

That's the problem, too many relying their internet bubbles instead of reading the actual government policy. Making and living in their own reality.

Government policy ? 

There's the rub. I'm dealing with reality, you're dealing with talking points.