Justin Trudeau may resign before 2025 – National Telegraph

[CdnFox]

https://www.toronto99.com/2023/07/10/justin-trudeau-may-resign-before-2025-national-telegraph/

"Rumours are swirling around that in 2024 Justin Trudeau could resign as Prime Minister and call for a Liberal Party leadership race.  This is according to currently serving MPs andrmer Liberal staffers.

Trudeau may want to stay on as prime minister but behind closed doors, Liberal Party bosses know he has no shot of winning another majority."

I think that this is exactly the struggle. He wants to stay on and ride out his term. But the party wants him to leave. And he would have to leave by mid 2024 at the absolute latest if his replacement is going to have any kind of chance to put together a campaign before the next election. And that assumes that the NDP don't call an election early, which they probably will.

I think the party would be foolish to kick him out or pressure him to leave unless he goes right now. It takes four or five months minimum to have a leadership race so realistically if a started right this minute they probably would barely have a new leader before the end of the year. That leader would only have about 1.5 years to prepare for an election and to do SOMETHING to show that they were better than justin.  And somewhere in 2024 jagmeet qualifies for his pension so anytime after that they might be headed to the polls.

I suspect that in the end if he doesn't go by the end of the year he'll stick it out - it would just be too hard for the next person especially considering the ndp would certainly pounce.

Of course... if he really wanted to eff them over for trying to push him out.....

[Legato]

He will probably step down right after he sacks his barber for not having the correct colour hair dye. Or maybe after the Jagmeet Singhing group loses it's voice.

[CdnFox]

Neither of those things will ever happen

[Nefarious Banana]

26 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

 . . . . . that assumes that the NDP don't call an election early, which they probably will.

 . . . . . somewhere in 2024 Jagmeet qualifies for his pension so anytime after that they might be headed to the polls.

 . . . .  especially considering the NDP would certainly pounce.

Jughead would never stab his master in the back.  He's the political dwarf, puffed up and furious at his masters demands, but always complying.

Jughead and his band of dwarfs are done as a party. Their support is dwindling, they're Liberals now. They have no clothes.

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Jughead would never stab his master in the back.  He's the political dwarf, puffed up and furious at his masters demands, but always complying.

Jughead and his band of dwarfs are done as a party. Their support is dwindling, they're Liberals now. They have no clothes.

Probably more true than not - tho he's surrounded himself with loyalists who nod their heads like corporate yes-chickens no matter what he says.

To be honest - the smartest thing the party could do as a party is ride it out, take the loss and spend the time between now and then recruiting good potential leaders.  Then reorganize and hope PP gets a minority and come back hard in 2 years. 

[myata]

The kind of petty stuff Canada loves to dive into. Others talk about real issues and real change. To each, their own as they say.

[BeaverFever]

Well whatever JT is deciding he better let people know as soon as possible. All those bumper stickers that say “F-ck Trudeau”, “Jail Trudeau”, “Hang Trudeau” need to be updated with the next LPC leader’s name and that takes time.  
 

Maybe they could just get a generic sticker that says “F-ck/jail/hang anyone I didn’t personally vote for” but that’s so impersonal. 

Edited July 16, 2023 by BeaverFever

[CdnFox]

49 minutes ago, myata said:

The kind of petty stuff Canada loves to dive into. Others talk about real issues and real change. To each, their own as they say.

I"m not sure if the issue of who the PM is going to be is actually "Petty"    Democracy is kind of a serious thing to some people.  Are you saying you'd prefer a different model of government?

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Jughead would never stab his master in the back.  He's the political dwarf, puffed up and furious at his masters demands, but always complying.

Jughead and his band of dwarfs are done as a party. Their support is dwindling, they're Liberals now. They have no clothes.

Bingoooo.

What Jagmeet Singh does is the exact opposite of "leadership". He literally just follows Justaboy around like a puppy dog and does his bidding. 

I can't even imagine what election message he's going to try to convey to people to convince them that he's anything but a googly eyed sycophant and f-tard. 

[eyeball]

54 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I"m not sure if the issue of who the PM is going to be is actually "Petty"    Democracy is kind of a serious thing to some people.

Well that certainly rules out all the people who compared Trudeau to Hitler - which probably only pissed off real Nazis.

So I wonder which monsters you people will try linking to Chrystia Friedland or Mélanie Joly?

[Moonbox]

Oh CF is a Klaus Schwab acolyte, don't you know?  She wants us to eat ze bugs and she's under his control.  ?
 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Well that certainly rules out all the people who compared Trudeau to Hitler

No, it really doesn't.  But it's telling that you felt the need to bring that up

At the end of the day every politician has SOME comparison to hitler. Hitler was first and foremost a politician, He ran campaigns he had to get elected, he had to motivate the people etc.

And many of his 'less desirable' tactics were in use LONG  before he came along and are still in use today by various politicians.  ANd we can look at the reprocussions of those tactics legitimately and look at whether or not we want to support that today. 

Hitler was very much about dividing the population and turning it against a specific group and then promising to 'save' everyone.  So is trudeau, demonstrably.  So was obama.  So was Nixon according to the democrats.

It is ENTIRELY fair game to compare virtually any world leader with virtually any other world leader if you want to look at the similarities or stark differences.  Comparing for example Churchill and Zelenski would  not be out of whack, Putin and ceaser share a few things in common, etc etc.

So yeah. Hitler and Justin share a few things in common. Doestn' make justin hitler. But wise people learn from the past and recognize it in the present.

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So yeah. Hitler and Justin share a few things in common. 

Well sure, who doesn't have a mom and millions of dead people to their credit?

[CdnFox]

35 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Well sure, who doesn't have a mom and millions of dead people to their credit?

Well i'm sure they both had a mom at any rate

And while trudeau hasn't killed millions - he's sure made millions want to kill him So theres that!

Your thinking is always so one dimensional.  Expand your mind a bit.

[Michael Hardner]

The journalist cited is still university student, so I for one am suspicious of his level of wisdom. For example, if Pierre's popularity is soaring why is he taking to dressing like Barbie's Ken?  Or maybe Ken's sugar daddy Peter Pepperlips?

Wyatt Claypool?

Seems like he was around 4 years old when I joined this forum...

Edited July 16, 2023 by Michael Hardner

[myata]

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I"m not sure if the issue of who the PM is going to be is actually "Petty"

It depends on the perspective. From that of a real functional democracy it won't change much because is cannot so yes, the term is objectively justified.

And from that of the Canadian political game sure. Have your way, make talking heads happy. Nothing will change though in any meaningful way and that's a good thing, right?

[Moonbox]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

The journalist cited is still university student, so I for one am suspicious of his level of wisdom. 

I had never heard of the National Telegraph, so I looked it up and the first two people showing in the "about us" section:

[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

I had never heard of the National Telegraph, so I looked it up and the first two people showing in the "about us" section:

Oh for sure, young people are stupid and shouldn't be listened to because agism.

Sigh.

[Michael Hardner]

33 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

I had never heard of the National Telegraph, so I looked it up and the first two people showing in the "about us" section.

They are online startups, only boosted by people who measure quality by how far right the content is.

[myata]

15 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Democracy is kind of a serious thing to some people. 

Look man, I'm saying it in good faith and spirit: do you remember how to use the mirror? Not the makeup one of course, but that of critical observation and reasoning?

Are you seriously saying that picking a smiley figurehead out of exactly two prepared for you no need to worry, nearly identical twins is the same or (at some point not too far away) related to functional democracy? The drumming bunny was turned on decades ago but the world has moved on since. Happy drumming isn't enough, not even close to solve complex problem of a complex modern society but it's the only thing it was programmed to do. See the problem? Or if not, being blind to the reality never absolved of the consequences of waking up to it.

[CdnFox]

11 minutes ago, myata said:

Look man, I'm saying it in good faith and spirit: do you remember how to use the mirror? Not the makeup one of course, but that of critical observation and reasoning?

Are you seriously saying that picking a smiley figurehead out of exactly two prepared for you no need to worry, nearly identical twins is the same or (at some point not too far away) related to functional democracy? The drumming bunny was turned on decades ago but the world has moved on since. Happy drumming isn't enough, not even close to solve complex problem of a complex modern society but it's the only thing it was programmed to do. See the problem? Or if not, being blind to the reality never absolved of the consequences of waking up to it.

God you're weird.  You already replied to that post and now you're arguing further with the same post.

Sometimes i feel like you might have something useful to say if you'd just learn english and sanity.

[myata]

24 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

just learn english and sanity.

No need to worry. Just keep drumming and hope for the best.

[CdnFox]

54 minutes ago, myata said:

No need to worry. Just keep drumming and hope for the best.

Uhhh... riiiight.

[Moonbox]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Oh for sure, young people are stupid and shouldn't be listened to because agism.

If you're seriously citing what looks like a 15 year old gossiping about rumours he heard on the internet about Justin Trudeau, you might be.  ?

Edited July 16, 2023 by Moonbox

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

If you're seriously citing what looks like a 15 year old gossiping about rumours he heard on the internet about Justin Trudeau, you might be.  ?

You might be what?  If i'm citing a 15 year old i might be .....  what?  capable of listening to something and evaluating it myself rather than dismissing it because of the person's age?

And now it's a 15 year old university student eh?    Hey if the kid qualifies for university at that age maybe we SHOULD be listening to what he says

Typical leftie - doesn't like the topic so you're going to attack the writer instead of discussing the subject. Pathetic.