Taxpayer funded drag queen camp for 13-year-olds in Winnipeg

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. There are community grants for the arts too though.
 

As i've said about 20 times now, if the community wants to independantly raise money for arts and there's enough interest to do so then by all means they should.  That's pretty simple.

Heck if they want to raise money for programs to teach children how to tape up their private parts and put on women's clothes and there's enough interest in it - so be it.

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2. Sure but that applies to a lot of things, and to business also.

yeah. So why not apply it to everything?

 For example - if the cbc can't raise enough on it's own without gov't help to survive, why should it?

[Michael Hardner]

49 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

As i've said about 20 times now, if the community wants to independantly raise money for arts and there's enough interest to do so then by all means they should.  That's pretty simple.

Heck if they want to raise money for programs to teach children how to tape up their private parts and put on women's clothes and there's enough interest in it - so be it.

yeah. So why not apply it to everything?

 For example - if the cbc can't raise enough on it's own without gov't help to survive, why should it?

Sorry, I was unclear - I meant that Cities and Municipalities fund arts programs out of general revenue, meaning property taxes and tax money in the form of provincial and federal grants.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Sorry, I was unclear - I meant that Cities and Municipalities fund arts programs out of general revenue, meaning property taxes and tax money in the form of provincial and federal grants.

Then your issue wasn't a lack of clarity, it was a lack of understanding what had previously stated.  The point was they used to. But don't need to.

[Moonbox]

42 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Well as we've long established - i'm not saying i'm smart, but i'm definitely smarter than you

Yeah because when you're smarter, spending as much time as you do telling everyone how much smarter you are is a super effective way of showing it.   ?

42 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You are patently insane. MANY large businesses sponsor the arenas and sport events. They even sell the rights to the names of the arenas in some cases now.

You say, right before you quote me talking about businesses sponsoring arenas and their construction.  ?

42 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Private funds have been building sporting arenas since the coliseum in rome. it's nothing new, it's a lot of work but it's perfectly doabile IF the community wants one and if they don't well - there you go.

The Coliseum was built with plunder from the siege of Jerusalem (among other things).  You couldn't have given a much worse example of "private funds", so maybe you should avoid talking about the Roman Empire altogether.  

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Yeah because when you're smarter, spending as much time as you do telling everyone how much smarter you are is a super effective way of showing it.   ?

Not everyone. Just you.   Turns out you're too dumb and need it explained slowly.  Everyone else already gets it '  

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You say, right before you quote me talking about businesses sponsoring arenas and their construction.  

Yes. Because that's a thing that happens and can happen more.  Here's some examples across the us and canada - each of which kinda proves my previous point about your intelligence 

https://www.thestar.com/business/2021/06/15/heres-a-list-of-canadian-nhl-arena-name-sponsors.html

Sponsored and built with private money

https://www.scotiabankarena.com/venue-information/about

And from around the world https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sponsored_sports_venues

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The Coliseum was built with plunder from the siege of Jerusalem (among other things).  You couldn't have given a much worse example of "private funds", so maybe you should avoid talking about the Roman Empire altogether.  

Yep - private money.  It's actually a perfect example. A person raised an army - sacked a city - took the money and built a coliseum.  These days it tends to be corporate interests but it's just the same

Again - i refer you to point one.

I will now await your usual attempt to deflect from the fact you said something stupid by attempting to focus the conversation on some minute detail you think you can win  

[Moonbox]

17 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Not everyone. Just you.   Turns out you're too dumb and need it explained slowly.  Everyone else already gets it ' 

Sadly these pathetic performances are just who you are.  You don't save them for me.  The amount of time you spent here pumping your own tires is something to behold, but you obviously need the validation. 

17 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Yep - private money.  It's actually a perfect example. A person raised an army - sacked a city - took the money and built a coliseum.  These days it tends to be corporate interests but it's just the same

It's a spectacularly dumb example, close to the worst you could have possibly come up with.  I know that you like to double-down when confronted with your own cluelessness, but Vespasian:

1)  Didn't raise the army

2) Was assigned four legions (Rome's standing armies if you recall ?) by the Emperor Nero

3) Was ordered to suppress the Jewish rebellion

 

4)  Came back to Rome after Nero died, ended up becoming Emperor and then ordered the Colosseum's construction with money, slaves and plunder from his state-sponsored military campaign.

5)  The Colosseum was never a private venture, but rather an expensive public service meant to distract and placate the mob in Rome (bread and circuses).  

Edited June 17, 2023 by Moonbox

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Sadly these pathetic performances are just who you are.  You don't save them for me.  The amount of time you spent here pumping your own tires is something to behold, but you obviously need the validation.

I'm literally responding to an insult you threw out there

Here's how pathetic you are - you engage in conversation and then when you feel like you're not winning you toss out an insult or two to make yourself feel better. THEN - when the person insults you back you freak out and have a hissy fit.

Perhaps elementary school playgrounds would be a better venue for you?

6 hours ago, Moonbox said:

It's a spectacularly dumb example, close to the worst you could have possibly come up with.  I know that you like to double-down when confronted with your own cluelessness, but Vespasian:

1)  Didn't raise the army

2) Was assigned four legions (Rome's standing armies if you recall ?) by the Emperor Nero

3) Was ordered to suppress the Jewish rebellion

Sigh.  I'll ignore your lack of knowledge of Rome, you've completely missed all of that, and make this so simple even you could understand....  (but damn you're stupid - go read a book about rome).

It was HIS money.  He owned it. He didn't have to spend it on public works, he could just as easily have bought hookers and booze. That was his personal money - money HE "earned" sacking the jews. 

So it's private money.  Not public. It was built with PRIVATE money.

So a successful wealthy individual chooses to spend his money to build a sports arena. Doesn't get to be a better example than that.

To listen to you talk if a general today got a paycheque everything he bought with that money is a public purchase.

But hey - thanks for proving me right that you'd try to focus on some point you didn't understand but thought you could win   Ya done looking stupid?

7 hours ago, Moonbox said:

4)  Came back to Rome after Nero died, ended up becoming Emperor and then ordered the Colosseum's construction with money, slaves and plunder from his state-sponsored military campaign.

Yeah - his money.  Not public money. Not money owned by the people.  He took an army, went out and made a craptonne of money, came back and built a sports arena.... WITH HIS OWN MONEY. Private money. 

7 hours ago, Moonbox said:

5)  The Colosseum was never a private venture, but rather an expensive public service meant to distract and placate the mob in Rome (bread and circuses).  

The colosseum was ALWAYS a private venture. No "public" money involved.  And sure - for him it was 'advertising', it made people feel good about him as emperor.

JUST LIKE MODERN BUSINESSES TODAY ADVERTISE BY DOING THINGS THE PUBLIC LIKES.

 

So what have we learned.  Colosseum - private money.  Built to improve the reputation of the person who put up the private money just like corporations improve their reputation today by sponsoring sports events and teams.

And they would do it today for the same reasons as then. To look good.

Sigh - ya done looking stupid yet?

 

[WestCanMan]

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Taxpayer funded drag queen camp for 13-year-olds in Winnipeg

If there's one sentence that can capture the whole essence of what it means to be a Trudeaupian-Canadian it's that right there.

[Moonbox]

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I'm literally responding to an insult you threw out there

Your lack of self-awareness is, as always, astonishing.  

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Sigh.  I'll ignore your lack of knowledge of Rome, you've completely missed all of that, and make this so simple even you could understand....  (but damn you're stupid - go read a book about rome).

Only one of us took university courses on it, and you've already spent an entire thread embarrassing yourself trying to argue Rome didn't have standing armies.  ? 

Your compulsion to bluster cluelessly on things you don't know anything about, and then double-down when corrected is almost as remarkable as your lack of self-awareness.  

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

It was HIS money.  He owned it. He didn't have to spend it on public works, he could just as easily have bought hookers and booze. That was his personal money - money HE "earned" sacking the jews. 

Once he became Emperor, it didn't matter anymore.  The Imperial Estates of Rome were worth ~25 of Rome's (or 5-6% of the entire world's) economy.  By today's standards, the Emperors were trillionaires.  Whatever petty cash he had laying around from his Jewish plunder was a wave of his hand at that point.  All the booze and hookers he'd ever want were at his command. 

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

The colosseum was ALWAYS a private venture. No "public" money involved.  And sure - for him it was 'advertising', it made people feel good about him as emperor.

A private venture where admission was free for the public, and that was paid for by the Emperors, who by that time were the State.  When the State spends money to appease the public, that's usually called a...public service.  ?

 

 

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Your lack of self-awareness is, as always, astonishing.  

Only one of us took university courses on it, and you've already spent an entire thread embarrassing yourself trying to argue Rome didn't have standing armies.  ? 

 

ROFLMAO - kid if you took 'university courses on Rome - you should immediately go ask for your money back

Was it the kind of "University" where it's online and you get a participation trophey   And  sorry kiddo - as i proved with multiple sources in that thread, you were wrong.

 

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Once he became Emperor, it didn't matter anymore.  The Imperial Estates of Rome were worth ~25 of Rome's (or 5-6% of the entire world's) economy.  By today's standards, the Emperors were trillionaires.  Whatever petty cash he had laying around from his Jewish plunder was a wave of his hand at that point.  All the booze and hookers he'd ever want were at his command. 

You yourself said he paid for it with money he earned on campaign BEFORE he was emperor. SO were you wrong then or are you wrong now?

Too late to change your tune kiddp. You already admitted it was private money.
 

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A private venture where admission was free for the public, and that was paid for by the Emperors, who by that time were the State.  When the State spends money to appease the public, that's usually called a...public service.  ?

 

When a private individual spend his own money on his political reputation it's not the state. It's the private individual.  If trump spends 100 million in advertising during a political campaign to make himself more popular - that's private money, even if he's president at the time.

You're going to injure yourself trying to twist the truth that hard to fit your mistaken earlier opinion

A person used private money to finance a sport facility in order to promote his personal brand.  Its' that simple. Twist all you like, it's a perfect example.

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Your lack of self-awareness is, as always, astonishing.  

Only one of us took university courses on it, and you've already spent an entire thread embarrassing yourself trying to argue Rome didn't have standing armies.  ? 

Your compulsion to bluster cluelessly on things you don't know anything about, and then double-down when corrected is almost as remarkable as your lack of self-awareness.  

Once he became Emperor, it didn't matter anymore.  The Imperial Estates of Rome were worth ~25 of Rome's (or 5-6% of the entire world's) economy.  By today's standards, the Emperors were trillionaires.  Whatever petty cash he had laying around from his Jewish plunder was a wave of his hand at that point.  All the booze and hookers he'd ever want were at his command. 

A private venture where admission was free for the public, and that was paid for by the Emperors, who by that time were the State.  When the State spends money to appease the public, that's usually called a...public service.  ?

 

 

Oh - i forgot to check - was my reply too many  words for you? I know you can't handle too many words.

Here's the short version just in case:

Sporing venues can easily be funded by communities and corporate sponsors and have throughout history.

A perfect example would be the coliseum in Rome - which was built using private money by someone who wanted to promote their personal brand. Just as today corporations want to promote their brand,

You're an !diot who loses arguments and says stupid things and then tries to pick a single detail and argue that long after losing the original point so you can try desperately to feel better about yourself.

Simple enough.

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, Contrarian said:

Simple enough is that you are a bully troll scum party man, hey listen, how come you did not manage to pay off, not even 1 private property?

Here I am, a drunk at 3:49 AM have a condo, owned in my name, and you a loser incel man or woman, woman, woman, you know it, stop hiding, from Vancouver can not even afford at this age, to pay a simple house property?! The bank owns you, like any slave. ?

Bully IP troll from Vancouver which his copy and paste trails to international lobbies, who do you think you are talking to?! 

ROFLMAO - so you basically wanted to teach me a  lesson, and you thought the best way to do that was go to all my comments  and make drunk !diot posts showing you've fallen off the wagon again    Well at least you're not bashing the jews this time  

[CdnFox]

Just now, Contrarian said:

So contact the ADL, give them my website, then I will give them what I have about. 

So, who they will believe? A current or a former Chud? Woman?

You're a chud? And a former woman? 

I knew you were a former russian - but the rest is news. No wonder you drink  

Man - you sure got mad when i pointed out I own a house and you don't. Its not good to drink that much  

[CdnFox]

Just now, Contrarian said:

Yes, i don't own a house, paid condo, you have health problems and debt.

You pay to live in a Condo?  Well in Canada We call that 'Renting'.   

It must suck to live in an apartment - my property's a pretty good size and the sq ft is pretty big - nice to have the space and the yard  

 

[Michael Hardner]

Okaaaay.... can we move on now ?

@Contrarian you want me to chime in on threads like this yes ??

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Contrarian said:

Is private property, 100% mine,

 

Nope - not if it's a condo.  You own a good nunk of the property jointly with everyone else.  You're forced paying condo fees for life The way things are these days your condo fees are probably more than what i pay for my mortgage and mortgage is over in a few years  

And my property, in one of the more expensive parts of the world, is worth at least 4 times what yours is   

And we both know you don't actually own your place

Such a weird thing to brag about - you're living in an apartment drunk as a skunk and trying to  'shame' someone who owns  a house    LOL.  Ok little guy  

6 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Okaaaay.... can we move on now ?

@Contrarian you want me to chime in on threads like this yes ??

I doubt it. I suspect it'll be a little while yet before the booze wears off

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

It is unfortunate you know, we could have worked for stabilizing cultural warfare however look at you, you offended everyone here so physics comes to you:

So, now as I said on another thread, if one elder member says to stop, I will stop, however 1 more for what is coming to manipulators like you:

Dude you are a drunk jew hating russian acoholic with weird sexual perv vibes who randomly attacks me when he gets really drunk.  There was no chance we were going to do much of anything together  

You have ZERO impact on the world, and can't even think your way out of a brown paper bag.  You've been this way since i got here. This is not the first time you've done this with me OR other people. Maybe if you weren't a drunk, but you are.

[SpankyMcFarland]

When I was twelve, many moons ago, I played Eve in a play at my boys school and as a young lad I enjoyed watching men dressed as women in the shows of Monty Python, Dick Emery and Danny La Rue. If you ask nicely I can still do a mean Marlene Dietrich impression. In much less liberal times all of that was regarded as unremarkable. Granted, none of it is quite the same as the example quoted in the OP but where do those who disapprove of ‘drag’ for teenagers draw the line? 

Edited June 18, 2023 by SpankyMcFarland

[ExFlyer]

25 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Okaaaay.... can we move on now ?

@Contrarian you want me to chime in on threads like this yes ??

Okaaaay...

22 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Are you doing self policing, sure, will stop here, did you enjoy the show between former and current Chuds? He is lucky men like you control this society, if it was up to me, this element would clean the streets in front of Starbucks.

The man has debt posts international agitation elements and needed to tell him who he or she is. 

I agree

 

And yet, he does not stop and nothing is said to comments like "Dude you are a drunk jew hating russian acoholic with weird sexual perv vibes who randomly attacks me when he gets really drunk."???

[CdnFox]

17 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

If I was not a drunk, you would consider working with me?

 

Dude -you REGULARLY get drunk and spend a night attacking me like this.  This is about the 5th time.  It makes it kind of impossible to work with you.

The rest of your faults can be managed but this is now like a monthly event with you.

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Did I not send a message to you apologizing for 1 drunken night? When is the last time you apologized and admited you are wrong? Chud to another chud as the leftists say.

 

Sure - and what was my response?  "don't worry about it, you're fine no hard feelings hope you feel better" - and i completely ignored  it and treated you like it never happened. Then  it happened again and i just blew it off, then it happened again and once again i just said "fine, i'll let you get sober and won't reply till then" and marched on. 

But by the NEXT time - i was done with it.

Saying you're sorry only has any meaning IF YOU STOP DOING WHAT YOU ARE SORRY ABOUT.  Which you did not. So your 'sorry' is meaningless isn't it.

And to answer your question I think it was like 2 days ago, i BELIEVE it was Robosmith and i made a comment, he said he meant it differently - i reread his comment and realized i'd read it different than he meant - said i'm sorry my bad i misread that and moved on.

 

[I am Groot]

On 6/16/2023 at 11:40 AM, Moonbox said:

I suspect you have no idea how the nearest arenas and curling clubs were funded 50+ years ago.  While I don't support pro teams getting federal/provincial/municipal money, I do appreciate reasonable efforts to make sure kids don't grow up to become fatties.  

Then ban most social media. Or at least what's aimed at kids.

[WestCanMan]

10 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Dude -you REGULARLY get drunk and spend a night attacking me like this.  This is about the 5th time.  It makes it kind of impossible to work with you.

He's pretty sure that he can hector people until they quit posting here. 

Ever seen him post this before:

"I everything am know! Everyone hate facts and logic! You embarrassed because

• bullet my points make true everything look!
• logical because of bullet points are
• YOO IZ BUTTHEAD! ME SMRT!"

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

He's pretty sure that he can hector people until they quit posting here. 

Ever seen him post this before:

"I everything am know! Everyone hate facts and logic! You embarrassed because

• bullet my points make true everything look!
• logical because of bullet points are
• YOO IZ BUTTHEAD! ME SMRT!"

LOL - yeah that sounds about right.  Like i said i noticed a bunch of times he was going after someone (can't remember who) and it's that same sort of gibberish. He gets drunk, he picks a fight with someone he considers to be a "good customer" and it's on.

 

[eyeball]

12 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Then ban most social media. Or at least what's aimed at kids.

You're willing to ban free speech AND capitalism at the same time to have your way with this issue? All I can say is;

 

 

 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Contrarian said:

Hilarious, instead of mentoring one like this element, you look for followers to go against me, is it because you are an insecure woman, and is that time of the month? Low IQ Political Degenerate Lobby Man or Woman? 

Hmmm - nope, still not sober. It's monday tomorrow bud, maybe stop drinking?