4 Proud Boys Convicted of Seditious Conspiracy

[Rebound]

Proud Boy leader Enrique Tarrio and three others were convicted of 31 crimes, including Seditious Conspiracy.  The jury continues to deliberate on remaining counts.  This story is not on FoxNews.com. They don’t want their fans to know this.  
 

Dear Enrique, you fool, you pawn:  Don’t you realize that if the white supremacists you support get all the power they seek, you and all the other Tarrios, Gonzalez’s, and, yes, DeSantis’s are all getting the heave-ho from the USA?  Didn’t you read Tucker’s text? “This isn’t how white people fight?”  Sorry, bub, but your skin is the wrong color for the team you’re playing on. Wrong DNA. They’ll just ship you back to wherever it is. 

Edited May 4, 2023 by Rebound

[Deluge]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

Proud Boy leader Enrique Tarrio and three others were convicted of 31 crimes, including Seditious Conspiracy.  The jury continues to deliberate on remaining counts.  This story is not on FoxNews.com. They don’t want their fans to know this.  
 

Dear Enrique, you fool, you pawn:  Don’t you realize that if the white supremacists you support get all the power they seek, you and all the other Tarrios, Gonzalez’s, and, yes, DeSantis’s are all getting the heave-ho from the USA?  Didn’t you read Tucker’s text? “This isn’t how white people fight?”  Sorry, bub, but your skin is the wrong color for the team you’re playing on. Wrong DNA. They’ll just ship you back to wherever it is. 

You do good work, Enrique. Don't listen to these lying diaper dopers - they hate America, and they hate YOU!

[Rebound]

1 minute ago, Deluge said:

You do good work, Enrique. Don't listen to these lying diaper dopers - they hate America, and they hate YOU!

This is AMERICA. We have a CONSTITUTION. It gives everyone the right to trial by jury. This Piece of Shlt had his trial, he had his jury, and they said GUILTY 31 times.

You're cheering on a criminal. Which makes you pretty despicable. 

[Deluge]

Just now, Rebound said:

This is AMERICA. We have a CONSTITUTION. It gives everyone the right to trial by jury. This Piece of Shlt had his trial, he had his jury, and they said GUILTY 31 times.

You're cheering on a criminal. Which makes you pretty despicable. 

This is AMERICA, but it's not the America you want to live in. YOUR America looks more like Cuba. 

[Rebound]

1 minute ago, Deluge said:

This is AMERICA, but it's not the America you want to live in. YOUR America looks more like Cuba. 

Whatever, your hero Enrique is sitting in prison. 

And, let's face it, there are no Enriques in "your" America. 

[Deluge]

Just now, Rebound said:

Whatever, your hero Enrique is sitting in prison. 

And, let's face it, there are no Enriques in "your" America. 

He was convicted by YOUR comrades, which means he's probably innocent. 

I'll take a conservative Enrique over a white liberal every day of the week and thrice on Sundays.

[Rebound]

Just now, Deluge said:

He was convicted by YOUR comrades, which means he's probably innocent. 

I'll take a conservative Enrique over a white liberal every day of the week and thrice on Sundays.

He was convicted by a jury and a Federal judge will sentence. I know you're a "take them out and shoot them or let them go if you like them" kind of guy, but that's not how the US justice system works. I don't think Canada's works that way, either.

[Deluge]

3 minutes ago, Rebound said:

He was convicted by a jury and a Federal judge will sentence. I know you're a "take them out and shoot them or let them go if you like them" kind of guy, but that's not how the US justice system works. I don't think Canada's works that way, either.

The US courts are a twisted mess. 

Sorry, comrade, but your precious legal system is rigged by racist woketards. 

Enrique's innocent in a fair, non-racist legal system. 

Edited May 4, 2023 by Deluge

[robosmith]

25 minutes ago, Deluge said:

The US courts are a twisted mess. 

Sorry, comrade, but your precious legal system is rigged by racist woketards.

It is "rigged" by Critical Race Theory." The WOKE are undoing that.

25 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Enrique's innocent in a fair, non-racist legal system. 

Too bad you have NO EVIDENCE (and never will) for ^this FANTASY OPINION of YOURS.

Where do YOU IMAGINE such a legal system exists?

[Rebound]

1 hour ago, Deluge said:

The US courts are a twisted mess. 

Sorry, comrade, but your precious legal system is rigged by racist woketards. 

Enrique's innocent in a fair, non-racist legal system. 

So how come Fox News hasn’t reported this at all? Do you think it’s because they refused to report facts and truth? The fact is the fact: These men were convicted.  

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, Deluge said:

The US courts are a twisted mess. 

Sorry, comrade, but your precious legal system is rigged by racist woketards. 

Enrique's innocent in a fair, non-racist legal system. 

Ya, we already know the only part of the Constitution you agree with is the 2nd Amendment.

[WestCanMan]

I guess we stand corrected. Pelosi was right. 

4 guys tried to get a crowd of 200 guys to take over the United States without any guns. I can't believe it didn't work ?

[WestCanMan]

So, will the net effect of this trial be that the dumbest half of America learns to use the word "sedition", or will they just keep using it incorrectly until the definition is changed to accommodate their stupidity? 

Listen up dummies... What those 4 people were charged with was 'sedition'. I.e., creating a plan to attack the gov't in some way and then convincing other people to help you carry it out is 'sedition'. Merely throwing rocks or breaking windows does not constitute sedition in any way, shape or form.

@BeaverFever, @Rebound... you're welcome.  

[robosmith]

5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I guess we stand corrected. Pelosi was right. 

4 guys tried to get a crowd of 200 guys to take over the United States without any guns. I can't believe it didn't work ?

It would have worked if Pence had gotten in that limo the SS wanted him to take out of the Capitol.

They had several subs who would have cooperated to give the election to Trump.

You STILL don't know what a CONTINGENT ELECTION is, nor how it could have given the election to Trump. LMAO

[robosmith]

3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

So, will the net effect of this trial be that the dumbest half of America learns to use the word "sedition", or will they just keep using it incorrectly until the definition is changed to accommodate their stupidity? 

Listen up dummies... What those 4 people were charged with was 'sedition'. I.e., creating a plan to attack the gov't in some way and then convincing other people to help you carry it out is 'sedition'. Merely throwing rocks or breaking windows does not constitute sedition in any way, shape or form.

@BeaverFever, @Rebound... you're welcome.  

It does when the goal is to overturn the election by blocking the EC vote count and substituting a CONTINGENT ELECTION, DUMMY.

Edited May 4, 2023 by robosmith

[WestCanMan]

2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

It would have worked if Pence had gotten in that limo the SS wanted him to take out of the Capitol.

They had several subs who would have cooperated to give the election to Trump.

You STILL don't know what a CONTINGENT ELECTION is, nor how it could have given the election to Trump. LMAO

What a bunch of BS. There's no way in hell that just postponing one meeting could subvert the whole constitution as well as the whole electoral process. 

If that's actually the case then it makes Pelosi even more culpable for failing to provide adequate protection on that day. She had two months. The American intelligence community had two months. Then this was the security they provided:

I guess that's enough security for an entire country ?

It's harder to get into an Arianna Grande concert. For real. 

[Hodad]

4 hours ago, Deluge said:

He was convicted by YOUR comrades, which means he's probably innocent. 

I'll take a conservative Enrique over a white liberal every day of the week and thrice on Sundays. 

 

That's a lot of taking Enrique. Sounds like you need to hydrate for the weekends.

[Rebound]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

So, will the net effect of this trial be that the dumbest half of America learns to use the word "sedition", or will they just keep using it incorrectly until the definition is changed to accommodate their stupidity? 

Listen up dummies... What those 4 people were charged with was 'sedition'. I.e., creating a plan to attack the gov't in some way and then convincing other people to help you carry it out is 'sedition'. Merely throwing rocks or breaking windows does not constitute sedition in any way, shape or form.

@BeaverFever, @Rebound... you're welcome.  

As usual you’re just making stuff up. Look up the statute and paste it for us to read. 

[WestCanMan]

11 minutes ago, Rebound said:

As usual you’re just making stuff up. Look up the statute and paste it for us to read. 

It's a word that has been around for centuries, and has always meant one thing:

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Sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that tends toward rebellion against the established order. 

Leftists have already abused the word vaccine to the point where chewing Bubblicious now qualifies, soon the definition of sedition will be changed to include throwing rocks. 

Merriam Webster:

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noun

se·di·tion si-ˈdi-shən 

 

Synonyms of sedition

: incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority

Oxford Dcitionary:

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sedition

 noun

 

/sɪˈdɪʃn/

 

/sɪˈdɪʃn/

[uncountable] (formal)

1. the use of words or actions that are intended to encourage people to oppose a government

Sedition is all about getting people to do something. 

What Ray Epps did was textbook sedition. You could put his picture beside it. 

People who were doing their own thing were not committing sedition. To use that charge against them is to completely alter the word's meaning. 

 

Edited May 4, 2023 by WestCanMan

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

What a bunch of BS. There's no way in hell that just postponing one meeting could subvert the whole constitution as well as the whole electoral process. 

If that's actually the case then it makes Pelosi even more culpable for failing to provide adequate protection on that day. She had two months. The American intelligence community had two months. Then this was the security they provided:

I guess that's enough security for an entire country ?

It's harder to get into an Arianna Grande concert. For real. 

Contingent Election is IN THE CONSTITUTION. And NO ONE KNOWS what THIS SCOTUS would say about an EC vote count that was DISRUPTED by the rabid mob incited BY TRUMP.

THIS IS WHAT Trump was trying to FORCE:

Contingent Election of the President and Vice President by Congress: Perspectives and Contemporary Analysis

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The 12th Amendment to the Constitution requires that presidential and vice presidential candidates gain “a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed” in order to win election. With a total of 538 electors representing the 50 states and the District of Columbia, 270 electoral votes is the “magic number,” the arithmetic majority necessary to win the presidency. What would happen if no candidate won a majority of electoral votes?

In these circumstances, the 12 th Amendment also provides that the House of Representatives would elect the President, and the Senate would elect the Vice President, in a procedure known as “contingent election.” Contingent election has been implemented twice in the nation’s history under the 12th Amendment: first, to elect the President in 1825, and second, the Vice President in 1837. In a contingent election, the House would choose among the three candidates who received the most electoral votes. Each state, regardless of population, casts a single vote for President in a contingent election.

Representatives of states with two or more Representatives would therefore need to conduct an internal poll within their state delegation to decide which candidate would receive the state’s single vote. A majority of state votes, 26 or more, is required to elect, and the House must vote “immediately” and “by ballot.” Additional precedents exist from 1825, but they would not be binding on the House in a contemporary election. In a contingent election, the Senate elects the Vice President, choosing one of the two candidates who received the most electoral votes. Each Senator casts a single vote, and the votes of a majority of the whole Senate, 51 or more, are necessary to elect. The District of Columbia, which is not a state, would not participate in a contingent election, despite the fact that it casts three electoral votes.

IOW, YOU don't know what you're talking about.

[Rebound]

17 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

It's a word that has been around for centuries, and has always meant one thing:

Leftists have already abused the word vaccine to the point where chewing Bubblicious now qualifies, soon the definition of sedition will be changed to include throwing rocks. 

Merriam Webster:

Oxford Dcitionary:

Sedition is all about getting people to do something. 

What Ray Epps did was textbook sedition. You could put his picture beside it. 

People who were doing their own thing were not committing sedition. To use that charge against them is to completely alter the word's meaning. 

 

No, they were not convicted of THAT. They were convicted of violating a federal law:

18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy

“If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.“

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

So, will the net effect of this trial be that the dumbest half of America learns to use the word "sedition", or will they just keep using it incorrectly until the definition is changed to accommodate their stupidity? 

Listen up dummies... What those 4 people were charged with was 'sedition'. I.e., creating a plan to attack the gov't in some way and then convincing other people to help you carry it out is 'sedition'. Merely throwing rocks or breaking windows does not constitute sedition in any way, shape or form.

@BeaverFever, @Rebound... you're welcome.  

Hmm your amateur interpretation of the law which is based on ZERO relevant education or experience doesn’t seem to match the legal system’s interpretation of the law.….you would have us believe that proves the legal system is wrong.
 

See the problem?

[BeaverFever]

25 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

It's a word that has been around for centuries, and has always meant one thing:

Leftists have already abused the word vaccine to the point where chewing Bubblicious now qualifies, soon the definition of sedition will be changed to include throwing rocks. 

Merriam Webster:

Oxford Dcitionary:

Sedition is all about getting people to do something. 

What Ray Epps did was textbook sedition. You could put his picture beside it. 

People who were doing their own thing were not committing sedition. To use that charge against them is to completely alter the word's meaning. 

 

Buddy hate to bust your bubble but it takes more than searching an internet dictionary to understand and argue the law. 

[WestCanMan]

29 minutes ago, Rebound said:

No, they were not convicted of THAT. They were convicted of violating a federal law:

18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy

“If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.“

If...conspire to.... [do a whole bunch of things], they shall be....

Each item on that list is considered to be prepended by "conspire to". I.e., conspire to overthrow, conspire to put down, conspire to destroy by force.....

That's how it is to be interpreted. 

[WestCanMan]

37 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Hmm your amateur interpretation of the law which is based on ZERO relevant education or experience doesn’t seem to match the legal system’s interpretation of the law.….you would have us believe that proves the legal system is wrong.
 

See the problem?

The problem is that your reading comprehension is at about the grade 2 level.