CSIS: Liberal MP is alleged Chinese agent, Trudeau ignored warnings

[Army Guy]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Global: https://globalnews.ca/news/9518923/canada-china-election-interference-poll/

"Believe China did try to interfere..." lol.

This is a perfect example of downplaying the scenario.

Of course they "tried", we know that for a fact. 

Trudeau was given an "urgent briefing" and ignored it. 

We were completely left in the dark as voters.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-says-leaks-interfernece-2021-election-innacurate-1.6758179:

He knows this is going in, in two election cycles, chose to keep us in the dark for all these years, now he's shifting the focus to "How accurate the leaked info is" instead of giving us the rundown on the length and breadth of this issue in a timely manner. 

Justin supporters are only growing in the last week or so, according to the polls, ya we know it is just the polls, well PP was leading by 10 points and now is tied with Justin,  this type of behavior and action is what Canadians want, or just to stupid to care about... It leaves people on the right with the opinion that the voters on the left are not patriotic at all, nor do they display any normal Canadian values, or morals, they would prefer to be lied to deceived, cheated, with a bag of burning liberal shit left at the welcome mats....It is to the point we can not trust any member of parliament on the left or anything coming out of the left for that matter.  They and the MP's and voters are in it for themselves, and screw the rest of us...  And whats funney is they like being bent over the kitchen table with their pants around their ankles...and they yell and scream when the rest of us are not following suit...

One day when they figure out we can not keep spending like drunken pirates and someone in this generation is going to have to start paying for it all. i wonder how many lefties there will be then...

[Dougie93]

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

Justin supporters are only growing in the last week or so, according to the polls, ya we know it is just the polls, well PP was leading by 10 points and now is tied with Justin,  this type of behavior and action is what Canadians want, or just to stupid to care about... It leaves people on the right with the opinion that the voters on the left are not patriotic at all, nor do they display any normal Canadian values, or morals,

I just don't believe in PP

the things he says he is going to do are obviously pie in the sky

like "restore sound money in Canada" or "defund the CBC"

the Conservatives are obviously not going to do that

so they are lying, just saying anything to get elected

it's the exact same thing that Justin Trudeau did in 2015

the Conservatives are not breaking out, because they are not a credible alternative

it's quite obvious that they will adopt all the Liberal policies once in office

just like Doug Ford did in Ontario, backing Justin Trudeau to the hilt against any actual conservatives

[CdnFox]

43 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

I just don't believe in PP

the things he says he is going to do are obviously pie in the sky

like "restore sound money in Canada" or "defund the CBC"

the Conservatives are obviously not going to do that

so they are lying, just saying anything to get elected

it's the exact same thing that Justin Trudeau did in 2015

the Conservatives are not breaking out, because they are not a credible alternative

it's quite obvious that they will adopt all the Liberal policies once in office

just like Doug Ford did in Ontario, backing Justin Trudeau to the hilt against any actual conservatives

Tell me you're a paid liberal hack without telling me

Of course they'll do it. Defunding the CBC is a no brainer.

And the cpc is not breaking out because there is no election. nobody pays attention with three years to go. Name one time ANY political party ever 'broke out' mid term with a big lead.  Although some would suggest 10 points is a big lead and he's been about 6 - 10 for most polls.

Of course every left wing hack out there is going to try to claim he's as much of a liar as justin.  (that might actually make him more popular in the toronto area, they love their dishonesty in their politicians ) but the fact is he has no reason not to.

The only way he doesn't is if he gets a weak minority and the other parties want to go back to the polls over it, but i doubt they'll be eager that quick,

[Dougie93]

6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Tell me you're a paid liberal hack without telling me

one Conservative on this forum calls me a "Neo Nazi extremist"

the next calls me a "left wing hack"

make up your minds

 

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

one Conservative on this forum calls me a "Neo Nazi extremist"

the next calls me a "left wing hack"

make up your minds

 

Actually dispite the left's desire for the nazi's to be 'right wing' there's a very strong argument that they WERE left wing.

THey were very socialist about the means of production, forcing most companies to allow for partial and usually controlling gov't interest.  they were extremely authortarian which is a 'must have' for the left, and they were strong 'social justice' warrior types who didn't believe in individual choice but wanted to 'cancel' anyone who spoke out.

So you can be both

[blackbird]

7 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

Raymond J. de Souza: China has been pulling Canada's strings for nearly four decades

A statue of a Canadian PM shaking the blood-soaked hand of a Chinese tyrant would be a fitting expression of Canadian policy

I have been saying that liberals have been cozying up with China for ages, actually ever since Pierre Trudeau became PM and established diplomatic relations with China under Chairman Mao over 50 years ago.  We don't know a fraction of what is going on between some liberals and China or what has been going on.  We do know the influence of China in every level of Canadian society has been growing.  Nothing surprises me anymore.  Now Trudeau is fighting hard to avoid shedding light on what has been going on with the elections recently.  You can bet government and bureaucrats will continue refusing to answer questions claiming privacy rights or national security.

Edited March 6, 2023 by blackbird

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

I have been saying that liberals have been cozying up with China for ages, actually ever since Pierre Trudeau became PM and established diplomatic relations with China under Chairman Mao over 50 years ago.  We don't know a fraction of what is going on between some liberals and China or what has been going on.  We do know the influence of China in every level of Canadian society has been growing.  Nothing surprises me anymore.  Now Trudeau is fighting hard to avoid shedding light on what has been going on with the elections recently.  You can bet government and bureaucrats will continue refusing to answer questions claiming privacy rights or national security.

It raises some questions about old issues as well - like remember those chinese scientists who worked in the canadian lab that suddenly got fired and went to china? And the liberals blocked any attempt to get details about that with extreme effort?

 

[Dougie93]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Actually dispite the left's desire for the nazi's to be 'right wing' there's a very strong argument that they WERE left wing.

THey were very socialist about the means of production, forcing most companies to allow for partial and usually controlling gov't interest.  they were extremely authortarian which is a 'must have' for the left, and they were strong 'social justice' warrior types who didn't believe in individual choice but wanted to 'cancel' anyone who spoke out.

So you can be both

so because the PC's are not conservative, but rather in lockstep with the Liberals

you say that makes me on the far left and the far right at the same time ?

add that to the reasons not to vote for your party

[Dougie93]

2 hours ago, Contrarian said:

You are close in views with your far left brethern. Did you not say you were raised far left?!

my views are Neoconservative

following Margaret Thatcher & Ronald Reagan

who did support fascist regimes of course

but only as a bulwark against the Soviets

all part of the Cold War Containment strategy

I was raised by leftists to despise Thatcher & Reagan

but Thatcher & Reagan won me over with their arguments

[CdnFox]

14 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

so because the PC's are not conservative, but rather in lockstep with the Liberals

Are you referring to the ontario PC and liberals? Please don't tell me you thought the federal party was called "pc"?

14 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

you say that makes me on the far left and the far right at the same time ?

Ahh no. No that is not what i'm saying. That's stupid.

14 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

add that to the reasons not to vote for your party

Sure - i'll put down "Not knowing the names  of the parties and being clearly mentally deficient and easily confused is a good reason not to support the CPC.

Justin trudeau appreciates your support.

[Dougie93]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

I have been saying that liberals have been cozying up with China for ages, actually ever since Pierre Trudeau became PM and established diplomatic relations with China under Chairman Mao over 50 years ago.  We don't know a fraction of what is going on between some liberals and China or what has been going on.  We do know the influence of China in every level of Canadian society has been growing.  Nothing surprises me anymore.  Now Trudeau is fighting hard to avoid shedding light on what has been going on with the elections recently.  You can bet government and bureaucrats will continue refusing to answer questions claiming privacy rights or national security.

it's all part & parcel of Canada's pathological Anti-Americanism

in order to set itself apart from America, Canada has cozied up to the Communists, particularly China & Cuba

Mikhail Gorbachev, who was Soviet KGB. actually viewed Canada as a model by which to reform the USSR

he wasn't trying to bring the Soviet Union down, he was trying to save it

[Dougie93]

9 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Troll, you will not get away with it this time 

Neo-nazi, I see you.

Hello (=)

you're not stopping me from doing anything

and your paranoid delusional ramblings simply present as mental illness

[Dougie93]

14 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

You lied enough and embarassed the Commonwealth, you weaklink, neo-nazi scum.

Quis Audet Troll (=)

Drink, but don't embarass your King, low life proleteriat.

"low life proletariat" ?

now that sounds like fascism

physician heal thyself

[Dougie93]

20 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Sure, "Smith". Rank that you provided? Have that too.

An interview with your militia will feature on centrism.ca if the good admin provides approval to expose you, neo-nazi scum.

Newton's third law is here.

Welcome.

again, I am not a Neo Nazi, I've never expressed any views in support of that

in terms of my service to the CF, I'm not hiding anything, there's nothing to expose as being a "Nazi"

I have the certificate right here on my wall, which thanks me for my "faithful & devoted service"

signed by General R.J Hillier

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Really? You declare here that the document is signed by RJ Hillier?

You have an official document signed by the General?

I have all my documentation

my certificate of service signed by General R. J Hiller, Chief of Defence Staff

a certificate of commendation for my service, signed by Lt General Caron, Chief of the Land Staff

and all my certificates of qualification

for Infantry, Infantry Reconnaissance Patrolman & Infantry Section Commander

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Contrarian said:

Sure you do, troll.

You lied to these people and embarassed your King, the Commonwealth too much.

You could not even be loyal to your own toothbrush, yet along an idea of a King. Weaklink.

bear in mind, I can also verify the particulars of my service by witnesses

starting with Brigadier General (ret. ) A.G. Young

who was my Company, Battalion, and Brigade Commander, he knows me very well

I can also call on the Commander Officer of the regiment

Lt Colonel Jason Morishe, I was his Section Commander when he was just a 2nd Leftenant

I know all the RSM's going back to the 80's, and they know me

there is nobody in the CF who knows me, who would say I was a "Nazi"

 

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Listen to my line of questioning:

Is your certificate of service signed by General R. J Hiller?

Yes or No Question, "dougie93" .

go and publish to the internet whatever lies about me you will

I can prove the particulars of my service, both by documentation and witnesses, many times over

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Contrarian said:

Troll, do not deflect.

Is your certificate of service signed by General R. J Hiller?

go and publish to the internet whatever defamation you choose to

I want to see this "interview"

if someone from the CF is defaming me, I'd like to know who it is

 

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Contrarian said:

not someone from the CF. They don't have time for traitors loyal to MAGA.

it's quite obvious that you don't know anybody in the military

 

 

[Dougie93]

52 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

stick around. 

you can add falsely accusing me of treason to your list of defamatory lies

as treason is defined by Section 46 of the Criminal Code

furthermore, under Section 298 of the Criminal Code, it is actually a crime to defame someone in Canada

• 298 (1) A defamatory libel is matter published, without lawful justification or excuse, that is likely to injure the reputation of any person by exposing him to hatred, contempt or ridicule, or that is designed to insult the person of or concerning whom it is published.

• :Mode of expression

  (2) A defamatory libel may be expressed directly or by insinuation or irony

  • (a) in words legibly marked on any substance; or

  • (b) by any object signifying a defamatory libel otherwise than by words.

[Dougie93]

6 hours ago, Contrarian said:

You lied enough and embarassed the Commonwealth, you weaklink, neo-nazi scum.

Quis Audet Troll (=)

Drink, but don't embarass your King

just more incoherent nonsense

you are the one who is trolling like a lunatic,

hijacking the thread to launch into page after page of vicious personal attacks

[Dougie93]

9 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Troll, you are not scaring me.

LOL.

wow.

Stay tuned.

(=)

I am not trying to scare you

you are the one falsely accusing me of everything from Nazism to Treason

I'm simply pointing that out as being against the law in Canada

 

[eyeball]

12 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Actually dispite the left's desire for the nazi's to be 'right wing' there's a very strong argument that they WERE left wing.

THey were very socialist about the means of production, forcing most companies to allow for partial and usually controlling gov't interest.  they were extremely authortarian which is a 'must have' for the left, and they were strong 'social justice' warrior types who didn't believe in individual choice but wanted to 'cancel' anyone who spoke out.

So you can be both

Or you can just be an a-hole.

[blackbird]

A book worth reading is "Why Naziism is Socialism and Why Socialism is Totalitarianism"  By George Reisman.  Available on Amazon Kindle.  The Nazis controlled companies and set prices just as Socialism would do.

[WestCanMan]

22 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Justin supporters are only growing in the last week or so, according to the polls, ya we know it is just the polls, well PP was leading by 10 points and now is tied with Justin,  this type of behavior and action is what Canadians want, or just to stupid to care about... It leaves people on the right with the opinion that the voters on the left are not patriotic at all, nor do they display any normal Canadian values, or morals, they would prefer to be lied to deceived, cheated, with a bag of burning liberal shit left at the welcome mats....It is to the point we can not trust any member of parliament on the left or anything coming out of the left for that matter.  They and the MP's and voters are in it for themselves, and screw the rest of us...  And whats funney is they like being bent over the kitchen table with their pants around their ankles...and they yell and scream when the rest of us are not following suit...

One day when they figure out we can not keep spending like drunken pirates and someone in this generation is going to have to start paying for it all. i wonder how many lefties there will be then...

IMO polls are propaganda that's put out there to say "Everyone thinks this way about the current hot topic!!!" 

I'd hope that even liberal voters aren't happy about this latest round of foreign influence, arrogance and secrecy.