Globe and Mail Loves Terrorists

[WestCanMan]

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-palestinians-sense-a-new-intifada-coming-as-young-people-focus-their/

If you take note of the buzzwords used here, and the quotes which they use without explaining how accurate they are, it's obvious that they're terrorist sympathizers:

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On the streets of East Jerusalem, Mahmoud Aleiwat, the 13-year-old Palestinian accused of shooting two Israeli Jews, is known as shahid, the martyr.

It matters not that he remains alive. It is those he tried to kill that won him repute: a Jewish father and son he attacked as they strolled through Silwan, his home neighbourhood.

Martyr?

Or child raised to be a terrorist? 

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Just behind the house where he lived, two girls in his extended family describe the Palestinian boy, barely a teen, as fearless and strong.

They marvel over his heroism, calling him a mujihadeen, a fighter. Where, they ask, could someone like him have found such a great reservoir of courage?

Fearless and strong. Courageous.

Evil. Ruthless.

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Jews “are occupiers,” adds a 13-year-old classmate who lives nearby. “They take our houses.”

 

Occupiers. "They take our houses".

Find me a muslim who will say that about the Pakistanis who already committed 2 genocides of over 2 million people each, and who got their own sovereign nation in the exact same way that the Israelis did.

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The hardening of attitudes comes as the Israeli far right assumes unprecedented influence.

Ooooh. The far right. So nastyyyyyy.

AKA, people who protect their citizens from criminals and terrorists.

 

The globe and mail is pure garbage, but anyone with any brains already knew that. 

[WestCanMan]

6 hours ago, Contrarian said:

• Right Wing Populist Man who pretends to care about the Jewish People -->

Leftist dolt pretends to somehow know that just because someone is conservative, they can't care about Jewish people.

You're a disgusting little bigot, contrarian.

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• All you had to hear is Muslim, Israel and you decided to write some originality in low IQ.

You have literally no clue what you're talking about, and yet here you are running your stupid mouth. 

FYI muslims never complain about Pakistan, just Israel. If the Israelis had opted for the Pakistani solution, they could have killed every single Palestinian more than once, there'd be literally zero of them left, and apparently muslims wouldn't care, because they don't say crap about Pakistan. 

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• Israeli society is too complicated for someone with your Curriculum vitae to understand. You just support Nethanyahu because is the same profile of shepherd that you support. Trump - Putin - Xi - Netanyahu.

The Arab-Israeli situation is too difficult for someone with your low IQ and high level of bigotry to understand. 

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• Who are you? People built careers in law enforcement and studied to achieve status. Because this internet communism allowed you to have a say, it means you are equal in opinion? Not in my books, you will be called upon by me in mornings like today in which I skipped my coffee. Everyone is too afraid to do it. Or not afraid, they have you on ignore, the reasonable people do. I am starting to come to a different conclusion, argue with the trolls directly to show their limitations. Is extremely satisfying. 

Nothing means that anyone is equal in opinion. 

If you think that the FBI wasn't lying when they said that the laptop was Russian disinformation, then you just proved how worthless your own opinion is. I'm just highlighting it for you.

Funny part is that you don't even realize that popping in here with your bigotry and your low-IQ opinions actually makes you the troll. 

[Moonbox]

6 hours ago, Contrarian said:

• I am starting to come to a different conclusion, argue with the trolls directly to show their limitations. Is extremely satisfying. 

Some of them, maybe, but this little bed-wetter isn't worth much energy.  It's equally satisfying trying to reason with a screaming toddler, or a brick.  

His mushbrain thread titles tell you everything you need to know about the content within.  

[Michael Hardner]

8 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Some of them, maybe, but this little bed-wetter isn't worth much energy.  It's equally satisfying trying to reason with a screaming toddler, or a brick.  

And as satisfying as it is (no argument here, and boy do I have some stories from 2020 Aug - Nov ) it encourages the spread of stupidity and maybe isn't a good look for the forum overall ?

Note the question mark above ^.

I am ambivalent (surprise) on the topic but I think it may be time for use to fumigate the trolls, even if we enjoy crunching them.  It's a much more wholesome experience to talk to consider and thoughtful people with whom we disagree.  

[Michael Hardner]

29 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

1. Yes but we don't own the forum. 

2. What is your suggestion other than just going down to their level and sticking it back with their own tactics? 

 

1. Do you care about it ?  At least as much as a park in our town you would visit ?
2. Ignore as much as you can.  It's good for everybody.
 

[ExFlyer]

12 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-palestinians-sense-a-new-intifada-coming-as-young-people-focus-their/

.....

Martyr?

..... raised to be a terrorist? 

Fearless and strong. Courageous.

Evil. Ruthless.

Occupiers. ....

....

Ooooh. The far right. So nastyyyyyy.

......

 

...... but anyone with any brains already knew that. 

Freedom fighters or terrorists.

Not picking sides.

One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.  Depends on what side you are on or sympathize with.

What were the Jews prior to 1948?

Edited February 17, 2023 by ExFlyer

[WestCanMan]

54 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Oh God, what an embarrassment of a poster. 

Yeah you are, you just don't know it.

It was throughly disgusting for you to assume that because I vote conservative I can't care about Jewish people. Your are a bigot by the exact dictionary definition. Now ya know.

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Came back with the same emotional garbage instread of saying: "Oh maybe I don't know that much" , then Pakistan. 

Why would I say "Maybe I don't know that much" just because you offered unsubstantiated insult?

You never said anything that would make me change my POV, aside from your sandbox insult. 

FYI Pakistan is an absolute comparable for Israel, and no other nation on earth is, and if you don't know why then you shouldn't weigh in. 

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Just this interaction alone shows me how dangerous is for ilk like you to post with a computer. People that know the geopolitics need to wash the floor daily with ignorant men like you that in 2023 speaks like he is in a hole somewhere. That's all you can do. 

You're a dolt, you just don't know it.

Sorry, just the messenger.

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Uneducated manipulative troll. Get a job or study basic mathematics is my final advice.

OOoooh, your snotty insults have made me question my beliefs lol. 

Grow up.

[WestCanMan]

5 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

 

Sure populist. 

Please don't use the word conservative, troll. That is who I might be voting with if I like the local person.

The fact that me and you, a Trump loyalist might share in voting preferences in Canada shows how inclusive we need to be towards low level uneducated men like you.

The difference between me and you is that I can say exactly why you're a fool and you just don't like it so you throw a tantrum.

Yes, I am a conservative, and if you can't deal with the truth then keep your head up your arse, I don't really care.

1) Go find out why Pakistan and Israel are direct comparables to each other and not really anyone else, then 2) tell me what you can learn from people's opinions of the two countries.

Apparently this isn't something I can just tell you or you'd know by now, you need to do the research yourself, then look at it objectively and come to your own conclusions, son. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

The Israelis and Palestinians are locked in a tribal fight of which the world always has many. Naturally, both sides will seek to demonize the other and emphasize the ‘we good, you bad’ narrative. The sensible approach for Canada is to avoid getting too deeply entangled in this mess. 

[WestCanMan]

8 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

More garbage from the Troll. 

Where is your mob? Why don't people stand up for you? Let's see them? 

Who else agrees with low IQ @WestCanMan posting about The Globe and Mail and his message?

Does his message helps society and the Israeli - Palestenian conflict?

Is he your role model?

Looking to hear as I am planning to start an ignore list in case @Michael Hardner manages to brainwash me to take his route.

Waaah.

I don't need a support group or I'd have 5 vaxes by now. 

If you want to really understand what kind of thinking fuels the Israeli conflict, go do some looking. Knowledge is no weight to carry around. If you don't, the Read G & M and keep your head up your arse. 

I don't care about your opinion, I just keep posting the facts to keep your ignorance in check. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

4 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

That's right talk to your fellow Canadians that were born here to shut their mouth or face the sword of geo-political knowledge when they get themselves involved in things that don't have the brain to understand. 

If one can't do basic mathematics I am sure one can't think about geo-politics in Israel. 

Sorry, what’s your point? And why so bothered about ‘Canadians who were born here’? 
 

I really don’t seek to shut anybody down. All I can give you is my point of view, one formed on an island where Christians of various flavours have been fighting each other for centuries. When trying to understand such feuds, the best policy is not to take any combatant too seriously when they tell you the big man upstairs is on their side. 

 

 

[WestCanMan]

5 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

The Israelis and Palestinians are locked in a tribal fight of which the world always has many. Naturally, both sides will seek to demonize the other and emphasize the ‘we good, you bad’ narrative. The sensible approach for Canada is to avoid getting too deeply entangled in this mess. 

Correct, but to understand the value of the Arab side's opinion, and whether or not it's entirely rooted in bigotry, you have to consider their opinion of Pakistan. 

Pakistan was formed the exact same way as Israel, just a few months earlier, for the exact same reasons. In Pakistan they committed two genocides, each of 2 million people or more, and now they have their country to themselves. Arabs love them. They're not a problem. 

The Israelis didn't commit any genocides. Less than 100,000 people were killed in all their wars, most of which they didn't start. They share their country - there are even Jewish holy sites in Israel where the Jews don't visit. But somehow they're an abomination and if the Jews are driven to the sea it's all good. 

You tell me, which country is really worse? How is Israel worse than Pakistan? How does an opinion like "we love Pakistan and hate Israel" carry any weight? 

[WestCanMan]

7 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

I am letting you know you don't know what you are talking about. Don't play with my emotion on this one or I will make you feel you never wished you opened a computer. Will troll you daily like Sun Tzu trolled bigger armies and you won't have space to breathe. 

When ilk as you put in Israel Rabin with a Nazi Uniform, other angrier ilk like you went out and executed a good man. This is who Netanyahu and his gang of populists are. And it appears he has supporters, sheep from the West. 

The Israelis were huge terrorists 60-70 years ago. See what the Stern gang did. Likud is rooted in bloodshed and evil. Menachem Begin and Moshe Dayan weren't decent men. I'm not ignorant. I've changed my opinion of that sad saga more than once. 

From a purely objective POV, Israel shouldn't exist. But by the same token, neither should Pakistan. Loving one and hating the other only makes sense if you add bigotry to the equation. 

[Moonbox]

What's really awkward on this one is that I'm generally very pro-Israel and sympathize with their situation often more than the other side.  

That being said, the OP is still 10-IQ.  

[SpankyMcFarland]

49 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Correct, but to understand the value of the Arab side's opinion, and whether or not it's entirely rooted in bigotry, you have to consider their opinion of Pakistan. 

Pakistan was formed the exact same way as Israel, just a few months earlier, for the exact same reasons. In Pakistan they committed two genocides, each of 2 million people or more, and now they have their country to themselves. Arabs love them. They're not a problem. 

The Israelis didn't commit any genocides. Less than 100,000 people were killed in all their wars, most of which they didn't start. They share their country - there are even Jewish holy sites in Israel where the Jews don't visit. But somehow they're an abomination and if the Jews are driven to the sea it's all good. 

You tell me, which country is really worse? How is Israel worse than Pakistan? How does an opinion like "we love Pakistan and hate Israel" carry any weight? 

Pakistan is a disaster. By contrast, Bangladesh, once the despised poor relation and basically a country in a river, has greatly prospered without it. Despite the authoritarian tendencies of successive PMs and widespread corruption, it has managed to control both military and mullahs while focusing on exporting goods, educating people, curbing population growth, minimizing deficits and taxing the rich. 

 

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It was unthinkable, 20 years back, that Bangladesh’s GDP per-capita in 2020 would be almost twice that of Pakistan. Bangladesh could be an economic powerhouse in 2030 if it grows at the same rate as in the past. If Pakistan continues its dismal performance, it is in the realm of possibility that we could be seeking aid from Bangladesh in 2030.

 

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It will hurt our national ego, but the only sure way for Pakistan to accelerate growth and reduce debt, and avoid seeking aid from Bangladesh, is to emulate Bangladesh. There is no shortcut to success, except to follow prudent fiscal and monetary policies.

Pakistan must take the following painful steps to live within its means: (i) lower deficits to 3-4 percent in 2-3 years, through a judicious combination of tax raising, expenditure management and privatizing SOEs; (ii) for a few years, freeze total spending and domestic/ external debt at current levels; and (iii) strengthen the debt limitation law to make it difficult for irresponsible policymakers to circumvent the law.

Taxing the wealthy should be the major pillar for raising revenues. Pakistan should consider a dedicated ‘Debt Retirement Wealth Tax’ on individuals holding assets (urban/rural land and housing, vehicles, deposits and shares) over Rs50 million; and significantly increasing property taxes on property valued at more than Rs50 million. To lead by example, the PM could start paying property taxes on his “zero-rated” home. There should also be an increase in taxes on goods consumed by the wealthy.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/839011-aid-from-bangladesh

Arabs do not love Pakistan. One of the more disgusting aspects of Arab societies is the way they treat other Asians, even Muslims, including Pakistanis.

The thing is that Israel is part of the Western club. In many ways it’s America’s closest ally. More is expected of countries like the UK and Israel than the likes of KSA and Pakistan. 

 

Edited February 17, 2023 by SpankyMcFarland

[WestCanMan]

27 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Is anger my friend, for what we think is right. And when we are angry and think we are right, every single human being on this earth in any group is capable of committing atrocities. 

Found staying away from any mob anger helps the person better in their quest.

I would have gone to Ottawa if I knew how well the Freedom Convoy behaved. I saw too many BLM protests to think of protesting in a good light. 

[blackbird]

As one who accepts the Bible as God's revelation to mankind, I view the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians from a Biblical perspective.

Firstly, God gave that land to Israel for perpetuity several thousand years ago.

" 18  In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:"  Genesis 15:18 KJV

There are many verses to demonstrate that God chose Israel.  That is the only nation on earth that God specifically gave the land to forever. There are many verses in the Bible showing God's special relationship with Israel and the promises he made to them which still exist.

 Former U.S. Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, is a Bible believer and recognizes this.

"Mike Pompeo, the former United States secretary of state, has made a controversial statement regarding the Israel-Palestine conflict as he said in a podcast that Israel has a ‘biblical’ claim to Palestine. Pompeo, who is considering running for the US presidential election, also called Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas a "known terrorist". On the One Decision podcast, which was released on Thursday (February 16), Pompeo mentioned his religious beliefs and also talked about America's strategic interests when it comes to Israel and Palestine. "

Mike Pompeo calls Palestinian president ‘terrorist’, says Israel has ‘biblical claim’ to Palestine (msn.com)

Edited February 17, 2023 by blackbird

[blackbird]

Canada's policy of a two-state solution is a nonsensical policy and just reveals their lack of understanding.

Canada should stop indirectly funding terrorist organizations that attack and oppose Israel.

"Members of Parliament of the Government of Canada are using their official positions to channel taxpayers' money to Islamic Relief Canada (IRC). The IRC is a federally registered charity, so the taxpayer is subsidizing this activity. IRC in turn is sending millions of dollars to Islamic Relief Worldwide (IRW). Seven independent and reliable sources have gone on the public record and stated that IRW uses charitable funds to provide material support to terrorism."

Is Canada's Government Funding Terrorism? :: Gatestone Institute

[blackbird]

32 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Brother @blackbird the video speaks of the religious orthodoxy's influence in politics and the intelligence community too. Is great information to see where this type of doctrine leads. 

It is almost impossible to know exactly who is telling the truth and what is going on in Israeli politics.  There are divisions and factions.  But all that doesn't change the fact Israel is under siege.  I met a man once who immigrated to Canada from Israel.  He told me when he lived over there, he had been in the military and even though he finished his duty, everyone is still part of the defense force and could be called up at any moment.  They always had to live like that.

The one thing that we do know is there are a number of terrorist organizations such as Hamas and Hezbollah that have a lot to do with the terrorist attacks against Israel.  We also know that Israel is surrounded by tens of millions of Arab nations who would like to eliminate Israel.  So Israel is in a constant struggle for survival.  Arab youth are encouraged to be terrorists.  

 

[West]

Trudeau is a terrorist and they love him so agree with the title

[WestCanMan]

20 minutes ago, blackbird said:

It is almost impossible to know exactly who is telling the truth and what is going on in Israeli politics.  There are divisions and factions.  But all that doesn't change the fact Israel is under siege.  I met a man once who immigrated to Canada from Israel.  He told me when he lived over there, he had been in the military and even though he finished his duty, everyone is still part of the defense force and could be called up at any moment.  They always had to live like that.

The one thing that we do know is there are a number of terrorist organizations such as Hamas and Hezbollah that have a lot to do with the terrorist attacks against Israel.  We also know that Israel is surrounded by tens of millions of Arab nations who would like to eliminate Israel.  So Israel is in a constant struggle for survival.  Arab youth are encouraged to be terrorists.  

 

Foreign nations like Iran fund Hamas and Hezbollah, and your family will get a pension from them if you commit a terrorist attack against Israel. 

[West]

Just now, Contrarian said:

I think one of you should change the picture with Trudeau and put someone else. 

At least move on when we will have a Conservative Prime Minister. 

Maybe put the picture with Covid or something, the new obsession. Trudeua will be gone as Prime Minister. Covid will stay longer with some of you folks. 

You should change your picture

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Contrarian said:

I can't, I created business cards to brainwash people with that one. Is part of my marketing. 

but Trudeau will be replaced by a Conservative Prime Minister. Don't panic that day, you can still talk about Covid. 

---> and you call me obsessed with Trump. Both of you have pictures of Trudeau. You probably voted for him in secret. ?

I wouldn't associate my marketing with your account, but whatever floats your boat I guess.

FYI covid was never a big deal, the big deal was the lying, fear mongering and fascism that came along with it. Our country sold its soul for a bad flu.

[WestCanMan]

2 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Every political party in power during Covid had to compromise and overstepped. I do not agree with how far some countries went, but this is why we have elections. 

I do not need to go to men like Pat King to seek guidance. I can wait my turn and vote people out @myata that I perceive forgot leadership is for all, not for an ideological bubble only. 

Isn't it sad when people like Pat King are on the right side of history against the Canadian gov't?

Who was the last Canadian citizen to organize that many people to openly oppose our gov't while being "the good guys"?

It's humiliating. It's shameful and pathetic.

I guess I need to come to grips with the fact that our country is just a moon-cast shadow of what I thought it was.  

[Army Guy]

5 hours ago, Contrarian said:

Is anger my friend, for what we think is right. And when we are angry and think we are right, every single human being on this earth in any group is capable of committing atrocities. 

Found staying away from any mob anger helps the person better in their quest.

And yet here you are making it your personal business to engage with some one you vowed to stay away from( angry mob)....it seems you are attracted to the flame, and can't help your self.