reason10 Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) Looks like this group may have to do with a little less funding. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-votes-rescind-billions-funding-irs-first-major-majority-action-mccarthy-speaker House votes to rescind billions in funding to the IRS in first major majority action with McCarthy as speaker The House of Representatives voted to rescind more than $70 billion in funding to the Internal Revenue Service on Monday night, fulfilling newly elected House Speaker Kevin McCarthy's promise to prevent the agency from hiring tens of thousands of new agents and conducting new audits on Americans. The bill — dubbed the Family and Small Business Taxpayer Protection Act and sponsored by Rep. Adrian Smith, R-Neb., and Rep. Michelle Steel, R-Calif. — passed the House of Representatives, 221-210. The legislation will roll back the billions of dollars of funding for the IRS approved in the Inflation Reduction Act last year but leaves in place funding for customer service and improvements to IT services. Looks like small businesses and the lowest income earners get a reprieve from the Unelected Joe Gestapo. Edited January 10, 2023 by reason10 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 Hooray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 How does this help the Federal government achieve a balanced budget? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Rebound said: How does this help the Federal government achieve a balanced budget? Cuts $70 billion in funding being used by Joe Gestapo to target political opponents. Maybe they should start with trimming the fat on politically charged programs. Hopefully the fbi is next Edited January 10, 2023 by West 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, West said: Cuts $70 billion in funding being used by Joe Gestapo to target political opponents. Maybe they should start with trimming the fat on politically charged programs. Hopefully the fbi is next So if we have no IRS we can balance the Federal budget? It sounds like you want to get away with cheating on your taxes. Edited January 10, 2023 by Rebound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 15 minutes ago, Rebound said: So if we have no IRS we can balance the Federal budget? It sounds like you want to get away with cheating on your taxes. Lol.. More like not get harassed because I don't like Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 2 hours ago, West said: Lol.. More like not get harassed because I don't like Joe You pay American income taxes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Groot Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 This is merely the Republicans working for their constituents - the large donors who fund them. They've been doing their best to slash and burn the IRS down so their big donors can get away with large-scale cheating for many years now. During a brief period where the Democrats controlled both houses and the administration much of that funding was increased. To the horror of the wealthy tax cheats who fund the Republicans. This 'cut' will, of course, never make it through the senate, and would be vetoed by Biden anyway. But it demonstrates that the Republican congress will be wasting its time and taxpayer money doing all kinds of political stuff of no substance. I do appreciate the irony of the name given to the bill, though. It's about as accurate as something out of North Korea. Family and small business taxpayer protection act? LOL. I guess "Billionaire and major corporation protection act" wouldn't sound as good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 5 hours ago, reason10 said: Looks like this group may have to do with a little less funding. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-votes-rescind-billions-funding-irs-first-major-majority-action-mccarthy-speaker House votes to rescind billions in funding to the IRS in first major majority action with McCarthy as speaker The House of Representatives voted to rescind more than $70 billion in funding to the Internal Revenue Service on Monday night, fulfilling newly elected House Speaker Kevin McCarthy's promise to prevent the agency from hiring tens of thousands of new agents and conducting new audits on Americans. The bill — dubbed the Family and Small Business Taxpayer Protection Act and sponsored by Rep. Adrian Smith, R-Neb., and Rep. Michelle Steel, R-Calif. — passed the House of Representatives, 221-210. The legislation will roll back the billions of dollars of funding for the IRS approved in the Inflation Reduction Act last year but leaves in place funding for customer service and improvements to IT services. Looks like small businesses and the lowest income earners get a reprieve from the Unelected Joe Gestapo. You do know that ^this vote and bill are just for show because they are GOING NOWHERE, don't you? It's just "virtue" signaling to the their wealthy constituents who HATE paying their taxes (and often don't). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) That's kind of a click bait for Commies title for this thread. "Defund the IRS?" Where did anybody in that article say they wanted to "defund the IRS?" They're making it impossible for the Dems to hire 87,000 new agents which reason suggests the average guy would have been right to worry about in spite of Dem lies they only wanted to tax the rich. How is this "defunding the IRS?" Quote "Our bill leaves in place funding for customer service and IT improvements because IRS is in desperate need of reform, but it protects middle-class families from audits they cannot afford," Smith said. The bill rescinds any funding that could be used to conduct new audits on Americans and funding that would double the agency's current size. Actually that was kind of a sloppy, questionable writing from Fox in general in their telling of tale. It would have been so easy just not to bury the lede. The Daily Mail managed: Quote The House Republican majority passed a bill Monday night to claw back $72 billion from the Internal Revenue Service, making good on a pledge to voters to 'repeal 87,000 IRS agents.' Edited January 10, 2023 by Infidel Dog 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 39 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said: That's kind of a click bait for Commies title for this thread. "Defund the IRS?" Where did anybody in that article say they wanted to "defund the IRS?" They're making it impossible for the Dems to hire 87,000 new agents which reason suggests the average guy would have been right to worry about in spite of Dem lies they only wanted to tax the rich. How is this "defunding the IRS?" Actually that was kind of a sloppy, questionable writing from Fox in general in their telling of tale. It would have been so easy just not to bury the lede. The Daily Mail managed: What they actually mean about taxing the rich is targeting Christian bakers who don't approve of gay bum sex 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 46 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said: "Defund the IRS?" Good question. GREAT question. So much debate will happen and it seems even MORE happens when ambiguity is sewn into the fabric of the question. There is no single definition of defund. It is used to mean "withdraw funds from" ie. lessen funding but also to mean "stop funding"https://www.thefreedictionary.com/defund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxme Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 6 hours ago, Rebound said: So if we have no IRS we can balance the Federal budget? It sounds like you want to get away with cheating on your taxes. In 1913 the international banksters were able to create the Federal Reserve board in America where they became the source for the creation and control of the money in America. Then the IRS was created shortly there after to collect taxes from the American people so that the banksters could, thru taxes, get their fiat created money back into their pockets. The American people have been screwed ever since by the IRS. The federal budget can be brought down or paid off quickly. But it will take some politicians with guts to eliminate the FRB, then talk about debts and deficits will disappear over night. But as long as the international banksters control the money, debt and deficits will always be around. Story has it that President J. F. Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas because he was out to get rid of the FRB. The globalist elite banksters were not going to allow that to happen so they shot Kennedy. Hey, we never know, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxme Posted January 10, 2023 Report Share Posted January 10, 2023 7 hours ago, reason10 said: Looks like this group may have to do with a little less funding. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-votes-rescind-billions-funding-irs-first-major-majority-action-mccarthy-speaker House votes to rescind billions in funding to the IRS in first major majority action with McCarthy as speaker The House of Representatives voted to rescind more than $70 billion in funding to the Internal Revenue Service on Monday night, fulfilling newly elected House Speaker Kevin McCarthy's promise to prevent the agency from hiring tens of thousands of new agents and conducting new audits on Americans. The bill — dubbed the Family and Small Business Taxpayer Protection Act and sponsored by Rep. Adrian Smith, R-Neb., and Rep. Michelle Steel, R-Calif. — passed the House of Representatives, 221-210. The legislation will roll back the billions of dollars of funding for the IRS approved in the Inflation Reduction Act last year but leaves in place funding for customer service and improvements to IT services. Looks like small businesses and the lowest income earners get a reprieve from the Unelected Joe Gestapo. It's hard to believe that the democrats would want to hire 87,000 new IRS gestapo agents at this time where money is supposed to be scarce and hard to come by. It sure looks like communism to me. I do believe that the hiring of those new IRS gestapo agents were going to go after all things conservative. At least the GOP did something right for a change. I wish that the GOP would work on trying to downsize the massive sized American government. We the people have way too much government around for all of us to try and keep track of as to what the hell is going on in our government. It seems like we have way more chiefs than Indians running this country. time for a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reason10 Posted January 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 13 hours ago, Rebound said: How does this help the Federal government achieve a balanced budget? Well, the IRS hounding ONLY the lower middle class isn't going to balance anything. You don't balance the budget on the backs of the working poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reason10 Posted January 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 13 hours ago, Rebound said: So if we have no IRS we can balance the Federal budget? It sounds like you want to get away with cheating on your taxes. Excuse me, BAT GUANO FOR BRAINS. Nobody is talking about doing away with the IRS. You are a LIAR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reason10 Posted January 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 9 hours ago, I am Groot said: This is merely the Republicans working for their constituents - the large donors who fund them. They've been doing their best to slash and burn the IRS down so their big donors can get away with large-scale cheating for many years now. During a brief period where the Democrats controlled both houses and the administration much of that funding was increased. To the horror of the wealthy tax cheats who fund the Republicans. This 'cut' will, of course, never make it through the senate, and would be vetoed by Biden anyway. But it demonstrates that the Republican congress will be wasting its time and taxpayer money doing all kinds of political stuff of no substance. I do appreciate the irony of the name given to the bill, though. It's about as accurate as something out of North Korea. Family and small business taxpayer protection act? LOL. I guess "Billionaire and major corporation protection act" wouldn't sound as good. Excuse me, but this newly funded IRS was not going after the higher achievers. It was going after the LOWER MIDDLE CLASS. We'll wait patiently while you produce some proof that ALL achievers are somehow cheating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 1 minute ago, reason10 said: Excuse me, but this newly funded IRS was not going after the higher achievers. It was going after the LOWER MIDDLE CLASS. We'll wait patiently while you produce some proof that ALL achievers are somehow cheating. They'd never go after wall street as they are the Democrat base Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 Nothing new here, Republicans don’t believe in taxes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Groot Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 16 hours ago, reason10 said: Excuse me, but this newly funded IRS was not going after the higher achievers. It was going after the LOWER MIDDLE CLASS. We'll wait patiently while you produce some proof that ALL achievers are somehow cheating. This is, frankly, economically illiterate. The IRS isn't going after the poor because the poor have no money and generally no requirement to pay taxes. Much of the middle class is the same. And it has always gone after the upper middle class. The people they haven't been able to go after are the rich and corporations, with complicated returns that take a lot of time and expertise to check through and then with dealing with the high-priced accountants the rich and corporations use to play games and avoid taxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Groot Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 16 hours ago, West said: They'd never go after wall street as they are the Democrat base I'll just park this here. https://qz.com/american-billionaires-political-spending-overwhelmingl-1849751449 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 19 minutes ago, I am Groot said: I'll just park this here. https://qz.com/american-billionaires-political-spending-overwhelmingl-1849751449 Interesting that George Soros gave over a hundred million to democrats... the guy who became a billionaire by destabilizing Hungarys economy... but its just a conspiracy theory tho eh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted January 11, 2023 Report Share Posted January 11, 2023 Rep Katie Porter as the Republicans tie themselves in knots trying to choose a speaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reason10 Posted January 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2023 3 hours ago, I am Groot said: This is, frankly, economically illiterate. The IRS isn't going after the poor because the poor have no money and generally no requirement to pay taxes. Much of the middle class is the same. And it has always gone after the upper middle class. The people they haven't been able to go after are the rich and corporations, with complicated returns that take a lot of time and expertise to check through and then with dealing with the high-priced accountants the rich and corporations use to play games and avoid taxes. I said the WORKING poor. FoxNews reported that these newly hired goons would be going after Venmo accounts, meaning tipped employees. These aren't exactly Fortune 500 types. They're just working stiffs whose tips pay the electric bills. And your NAZI president has decided to go after them. Your NAzi Democrats will not go after the rich, mostly because the rich control them and pull their strings. Your Gestapo IRS as usual goes after the lowly schuck who can't afford a tax attorney. This is despicable and the Republican Congress was right to vote to slash this terrorism fund. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Groot Posted January 12, 2023 Report Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, reason10 said: I said the WORKING poor. FoxNews reported that these newly hired goons would be going after Venmo accounts, meaning tipped employees. These aren't exactly Fortune 500 types. They're just working stiffs whose tips pay the electric bills. And your NAZI president has decided to go after them. Your NAzi Democrats will not go after the rich, mostly because the rich control them and pull their strings. Your Gestapo IRS as usual goes after the lowly schuck who can't afford a tax attorney. This is despicable and the Republican Congress was right to vote to slash this terrorism fund. I hate to break it to you, chump, but FOX news is full of shit. I'm also not a fan of the Democrats, not an American, and find this kind of froth-at-the-mouth posting style to be stuck halfway between amusing and sad. Like, what's wrong with you? Have you sought aid from mental health resources? Edited January 12, 2023 by I am Groot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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