Canada Is Now Totalitarian

[blackbird]

On 11/7/2022 at 4:16 PM, Army Guy said:

Maybe we are all missing the Capt obvious question, why is it that all our federal government departments are under funded, undermanned, and under equipped, and to most of us we see this as normal, not asking the government to solve that issue, more employees means faster service, not better but faster.

The feds spend lots of money on foreign aid and helping women get abortions in the third world.

[eyeball]

25 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

You don’t understand what Jesus was saying.  Caesar has no jurisdiction over what matters most.  If you play with matches (Caesar’s game), you’re going to get burned.

Eyeball you have one point, your ban on in camera lobbying.  You want more surveillance basically.  Everything else is unquestioning compliance with whomever for whatever reason.  No fixed point or guideposts except your dear leader.  Moonbox, Treeface, Exflyer Herbie all sing from the same confused Marxist-Nihilist song sheet.  

Yer a loon mate and you really don't seem to understand what I've said.   And it's souveillance - see what I mean?  

[Zeitgeist]

8 minutes ago, blackbird said:

The feds spend lots of money on foreign aid and helping women get abortions in the third world.

The federal government wastes billions of taxpayer dollars on programs most Canadians know little about and would be unlikely to support if it meant they could pay less taxes.   The Liberal federal government reaches far beyond what should fall under federal jurisdiction. 

[Dougie93]

7 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

 Souls don’t belong to Caesar.

Also, the Liberals aren’t liberal anymore.  I was once a member of that party.  It’s unrecognizable.  I’m always tuned in to hear what views are currently considered unacceptable.

indeed

the Government of Canada has declared that those it deems to have "unacceptable views" are "intolerable"

to wit, thought crime, the very essence of totalitarianism

[Dougie93]

7 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

The federal government wastes billions of taxpayer dollars on programs most Canadians know little about and would be unlikely to support if it meant they could pay less taxes.   The Liberal federal government reaches far beyond what should fall under federal jurisdiction. 

the national security apparatus seems totally focused on protecting politicians from any accountability at all

while crushing any attempts by the citizens to protest this corruption,  with brute force

at the same time, the armed forces are being effectively dismantled

while reportedly the Chinese Communists are able to run amok on Canadian soil completely unchecked

[blackbird]

8 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

The federal government wastes billions of taxpayer dollars on programs most Canadians know little about and would be unlikely to support if it meant they could pay less taxes.   The Liberal federal government reaches far beyond what should fall under federal jurisdiction. 

More evidence of what you say is true is the fact Trudeau is jetting off today, Remembrance Day, to southeast Asia for more conferences instead of attending the Remembrance Day services at the Ottawa cenotaph as any Prime Minister should.  Why?  He is first and foremost a globalist and loves jetting around the world creating greenhouse gases while he tells Canadians he is fighting for "net zero" emissions.

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, blackbird said:

More evidence of what you say is true is the fact Trudeau is jetting off today, Remembrance Day, to southeast Asia for more conferences instead of attending the Remembrance Day services at the Ottawa cenotaph as any Prime Minister should.  Why?  He is first and foremost a globalist and loves jetting around the world creating greenhouse gases while he tells Canadians he is fighting for "net zero" emissions.

 Trudeau is not going to be on parade ?

thank goodness

now I can go to the ceremony without protest

[Dougie93]

I just drove to the nearest local ceremony

quite a small one, only about a hundred people or so

some Militia on parade, about a Section's worth

but sure enough, I meet an army buddy there

a Sapper (ret.)  from 1 CER, Gulf War vet, clearing UXO in Kuwait

with his wife, and his son

his son is an officer in the Militia, RCCS

[TreeBeard]

13 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Let me see, The Ten Commandments, which are summarized in the New Testament as Love God and Love your neighbour.

There’s also the fundamental belief that every person is made in the image of God and has a soul.  There’s also the belief that God loves everyone and no person is of greater or lesser value than another.

Maybe refer to Corinthians for Paul’s description of love.

Refer to the multiple stories of freedom from slavery from Exodus to Revelation.

If clearly even the most so called advanced civilizations can stomp on human freedom, from Rome to Germany to China to even seemingly harmless countries like Canada, then what can humans rely on except faith?   I certainly don’t count on politicians to defend my rights.  They constantly fail to do so.

None of those are “rights”.  And you can also look to Exodus to see how God intended slavery to be carried out, so to hold it up as a way to be free of slavery is a bit rich…. Cherry picking at its finest.  

[Zeitgeist]

1 hour ago, TreeBeard said:

None of those are “rights”.  And you can also look to Exodus to see how God intended slavery to be carried out, so to hold it up as a way to be free of slavery is a bit rich…. Cherry picking at its finest.  

How do you think rights are chosen? What do you think gives “rights” their authority?

You clearly don’t know Biblical scripture or theology.  Your Marxist-atheist outlook biases you out of the conversation.  Humans naturally seek liberty and have sought to enshrine liberty politically for thousands of years. Unfortunately pretty sounding constitutions are routinely violated around the world, especially in totalitarian countries.  The Soviet Union’s constitution was poetry, but since the state arrogated all authority to an elite that knows best (the Vanguard of the Proletariat), regular citizens and even the courts were basically told what people deserved and could handle.  I don’t think Canada’s government is far from that attitude today.  They know best what will keep Canadians safe.  The constitution is of secondary importance to what government decides is expedient to meet their own interests in Canada today.

 

 

Edited November 11, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[herbie]

Didn't I predict this in another thread?

The hypocrites whine that he appeared on a TV show when he should've been doing something important and you'd whine the very next day he scurried off to an economic summit rather than laying wreath?

All the while griping 'let them eat cake' over foreign aid while touting their Christian devotion.

[Zeitgeist]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

Didn't I predict this in another thread?

The hypocrites whine that he appeared on a TV show when he should've been doing something important and you'd whine the very next day he scurried off to an economic summit rather than laying wreath?

All the while griping 'let them eat cake' over foreign aid while touting their Christian devotion.

Nope.  The consistent theme is Trudeau grandstanding and supplicating himself before international organizations and foreign interests while ignoring the challenges of everyday Canadians.  Taking jets and staying in 5 star hotels on the taxpayers’ dime is easier than showing up to a solemn event like a Remembrance Day ceremony to remember those who fought to defend our freedom. 

Edited November 12, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[herbie]

I know. Pomp and circumstance is so much more important than economic matters, isn't it? He could've made the rest of the world reschedule.

And he should walk across the ocean in sandals if he really cares about the environment too.

Tell me were PP and Danielle Smith there laying a wreath in honour of the Convoyers who fought for our freedumbs too?

[Zeitgeist]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

I know. Pomp and circumstance is so much more important than economic matters, isn't it? He could've made the rest of the world reschedule.

And he should walk across the ocean in sandals if he really cares about the environment too.

Tell me were PP and Danielle Smith there laying a wreath in honour of the Convoyers who fought for our freedumbs too?

False equivalence 

[Dougie93]

10 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

False equivalence 

a state which decries peaceful assembly, protest & associated civil disobedience

a state which crushes any dissent which does not comport with the ruling party line

a state which asserts that the government can decide when, where & how you can peacefully protest

that's another hallmark of totalitario, straight out of Mussolini's Fascist Italy

[herbie]

False equivalence is equating a belated limp-wristed legal response to someone who grew up with mounted cops charging and swinging billy clubs at crowds of dope smokers or simply gunned them down like at Kent State.

Oh, you poor oppressed babies...

[Dougie93]

John Robson: The retired general who spoke truth about Canadian wokeness

 A retired senior Canadian officer just delivered a salvo against cancel culture, whiny entitlement and “woke journalism,” his still-uniformed colleagues gave him a standing ovation, and the usual suspects reached for the smelling salts. A mirror might have been a better choice.

Retired Lt.-Gen. Michel Maisonneuve certainly showed courage in cutting loose at the annual Conference of Defence Associations Institute’s Vimy Gala, held for some reason at the Canadian Museum of History not the War Museum this year. It was chaired by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court and the prime Minister’s national security advisor (yes, he has one, though I defy you to name them or state what useful purpose they serve) and self-promotes as “one of the most exclusive formal dining evenings in the country which unites the defence and security community.” So it’s one of those events where everyone goes to dress up, ingest platitudes and feel smug.

He ranted against toppling statues and erasing history, climate activists vandalizing art, replacing personal responsibility with collective apologies as “Individuals and groups fight over who gets to wear the coveted victims’ cloak,” gender-neutral military uniforms and “these days of entitlement, Me First, not my problem and endless subsidies and handouts” generally

if you’re the government-subsidized CDA, whose executive director simpered to the Ottawa Citizen that “many attendees were offended by LGen (ret’d) Maisonneuve’s speech. His remarks do not reflect those of the CDA Institute.” Yeah, well, they do reflect those of a great many Canadians including those currently serving and likely to serve.

I continually see news stories about how “’White nationalism’ is a threat the Canadian Armed Forces aren’t equipped for: watchdog” and console myself that the CAF are now so far under strength they could scarcely furnish sufficient space for the Sons of Thor to meet even if they wanted to. But, typically, the smart set is worried about recruiting too many neo-Nazis rather than not recruiting enough anybody.

Then there’s the noted defence analyst professor who sniffed on Twitter that this speech “was an embarrassment and a good illustration of the culture of entitlement that has led to systematic abuses of power in the senior ranks of the military. There are serious efforts now to change this — but this shows why it’s hard.” So patriotic common sense equals sexual harassment. Good luck with that recruiting campaign.

So I applaud Lt.-Gen. Maisonneuve for ruffling feathers instead of smothering debate. And if you’re shocked that many still in uniform applauded, try being shocked instead that they felt they had to.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/he-retired-general-who-spoke-truth-about-military-wokeness

Edited November 16, 2022 by Dougie93