Did Justin Trudeau committ war crimes?

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, West said:

Supt. Pat Morris, the head of the OPP’s Provincial Operations Intelligence Bureau, told an inquiry probing the use of the Emergencies Act that his unit turned up no direct evidence of a threat of extremist violence after weeks of analysis and information-gathering on the protest participants.

 

Even after you are called a liar by the OPP you still keep going. Take the L bruh you are making a fool of yourself

I never once said "direct evidence of a threat of extremist violence". Once again, it is you that is lying LOL

Try and prove your lie ....go ahead, try. Once again, when asked for proof, all we get from you is crickets. LOL   Your silence is golden

[ExFlyer]

46 minutes ago, West said:

I dont feel too bad for the people of Ottawa. They are the ones voting for the clowns who were harassing people over a pharmaceutical product and face diaper for a few years

The people of Ottawa??? Not the millions of others in the country that voted liberal???

Suck it up puddin.

Regardless of the outcome, you will still be a loser as nothing will be done so you can weep and cry for ever.

May as well paint the big L on your forehead with indelible ink as it will always be there LOL

[West]

So we are supposed to wait to here what the white upper class folks tell us to think on the matter and what we allowed to protest. Right... experts and all ?

Edited October 22, 2022 by West

[West]

15 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

I never once said "direct evidence of a threat of extremist violence". Once again, it is you that is lying LOL

Try and prove your lie ....go ahead, try. Once again, when asked for proof, all we get from you is crickets. LOL   Your silence is golden

This was the rationale behind Trudeau's imposition of a declaration of war on his citizens

[West]

17 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

The people of Ottawa??? Not the millions of others in the country that voted liberal???

Suck it up puddin.

Regardless of the outcome, you will still be a loser as nothing will be done so you can weep and cry for ever.

May as well paint the big L on your forehead with indelible ink as it will always be there LOL

Meh... every province dropped the mandates. Trudeau tried to hold on to relevance but then we saw how dumb he was by disruption of supply chains (as testimony alluded to) and the cluster at airports this summer. Even the privileged ones saw that Trudeau's mandates were ridiculous and he suspended the air travel mandates because it was obviously dumb

[ExFlyer]

52 minutes ago, West said:

This was the rationale behind Trudeau's imposition of a declaration of war on his citizens

Ha! Could not prove your lie. I knew it.

You only accuse but cannot back up your lying accusations.

[ExFlyer]

47 minutes ago, West said:

Meh... every province dropped the mandates. Trudeau tried to hold on to relevance but then we saw how dumb he was by disruption of supply chains (as testimony alluded to) and the cluster at airports this summer. Even the privileged ones saw that Trudeau's mandates were ridiculous and he suspended the air travel mandates because it was obviously dumb

Provinces were the ones that made the mandates. So, yeah, when they dropped them it is their doing. Yeah, travel mandates were federal but he dropped those too, not like getting into the US which still has them.

You have nothing dude. Just remember that big L on your forehead. I realize no one will see it as you are only in your basement in front of your keyboard LOL

[West]

3 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Ha! Could not prove your lie. I knew it.

You only accuse but cannot back up your lying accusations.

What lie is that? 

[Queenmandy85]

Does anyone here actually think they can change someone's mind with your posts?

Are we going to have any impact on policy on this, or any, forum?

[suds]

20 hours ago, dialamah said:

While the people who were intimidated by the protestors, those who couldn't get to work because their way was blocked by trucks and protesters, those businesses who had to shut down - they don't have rights that should be protected by the government?

Oh wait - you deny they exist because it's convenient to your narrative.

Carry on.

Those who live downtown likely work downtown, so it's not as if they really need transportation to get around. At the time of the protests, downtown Ottawa was pretty much a ghost town anyway. Small businesses affected by the protest were able to claim up to $10000 from the federal gov't for losses. Less than 1/2 of the $20 million set aside by the government has been paid out. Protests as a rule do inconvenience a lot of people, but that's the price we all pay for living in a free and democratic nation. The question is .... where do you draw the line between the rights of protesters and those affected by the protests?  If you can't bear the noise and inconvenience of protests maybe you should rethink about living so close to the parliament buildings.

[West]

14 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Does anyone here actually think they can change someone's mind with your posts?

Are we going to have any impact on policy on this, or any, forum?

I think social media is 100% effective. Its why you see so much censorship. Not here thankfullying...

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, West said:

What lie is that? 

Ypur post"

Supt. Pat Morris, the head of the OPP’s Provincial Operations Intelligence Bureau, told an inquiry probing the use of the Emergencies Act that his unit turned up no direct evidence of a threat of extremist violence after weeks of analysis and information-gathering on the protest participants.

 

Even after you are called a liar by the OPP you still keep going. Take the L bruh you are making a fool of yourself"

I never said anything about extemists so, you are BSing again.

Stay with the program BIG L. The testimony is only on Ottawa police screwing up.

[dialamah]

57 minutes ago, suds said:

1.  Those who live downtown likely work downtown, so it's not as if they really need transportation to get around.

2.  At the time of the protests, downtown Ottawa was pretty much a ghost town anyway.

3. Small businesses affected by the protest were able to claim up to $10000 from the federal gov't for losses. Less than 1/2 of the $20 million set aside by the government has been paid out.

4. Protests as a rule do inconvenience a lot of people, but that's the price we all pay for living in a free and democratic nation.

5. The question is .... where do you draw the line between the rights of protesters and those affected by the protests?  If you can't bear the noise and inconvenience of protests maybe you should rethink about living so close to the parliament buildings.

1.  Denying/minimizing what people said happened to them demonstrates the weakness of your position.

2.  See number 1.

3.  Why should the taxpayer be on the hook for the businesses the convoy destroyed for weeks?

4. Cops move/charge protesters who interfere with rush hour traffic in Vancouver.  Should commuters just not go to work if they can't accept a little "inconvenience"?  There are ways to protest that gets news coverage but does not involve cops having to move people.

5.  I draw the line at interfering with rush hour traffic.  Where's your line, or do you even have one?

[dialamah]

1 hour ago, Queenmandy85 said:

1..Does anyone here actually think they can change someone's mind with your posts?

2.  Are we going to have any impact on policy on this, or any, forum?

1.  No.

2.  No.

But some people here add clarity for me, so I hang around even though a lot of posters make me roll my eyes.

[Zeitgeist]

6 hours ago, West said:

More than 2000... it defies logic they were overwhelmed enough they needed an EO for 2000 demonstrators

On peak protest days it was in the tens of thousands.  Lining highways

[suds]

1 hour ago, dialamah said:

1.  Denying/minimizing what people said happened to them demonstrates the weakness of your position.

2.  See number 1.

3.  Why should the taxpayer be on the hook for the businesses the convoy destroyed for weeks?

4. Cops move/charge protesters who interfere with rush hour traffic in Vancouver.  Should commuters just not go to work if they can't accept a little "inconvenience"?  There are ways to protest that gets news coverage but does not involve cops having to move people.

5.  I draw the line at interfering with rush hour traffic.  Where's your line, or do you even have one?

What we know so far is a lot of the things said about the protesters is simply not true which would also include what was said by prominent politicians and media. And just how did the convoy destroy these businesses? Did they loot them, set them on fire, vandalize them, or ...... ?  And by drawing the line in the case of the convoy, I was referring to the Emergencies Act. Where did the convoy cross the line in your estimation? In my opinion, no line was crossed.

[dialamah]

2 hours ago, suds said:

Where did the convoy cross the line in your estimation? In my opinion, no line was crossed.

They crossed the line when they refused to move their protest after a couple of days, when they thoughtlessly honked their horns as if nobody existed outside their little world, when they styled themselves patriots while flying the Canadian flag upside down.  

You can bleat on about MSM, but live video doesn't lie.

[Zeitgeist]

1 hour ago, dialamah said:

They crossed the line when they refused to move their protest after a couple of days, when they thoughtlessly honked their horns as if nobody existed outside their little world, when they styled themselves patriots while flying the Canadian flag upside down.  

You can bleat on about MSM, but live video doesn't lie.

It was a festival atmosphere.  If they didn’t push back on mandates we’d probably still be wearing masks and running away from each other talking about case numbers and ICU’s.  Daily Covid fear porn and constant media shaming of Covidiots who dared to break rules and be social.   

[West]

8 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Ypur post"

Supt. Pat Morris, the head of the OPP’s Provincial Operations Intelligence Bureau, told an inquiry probing the use of the Emergencies Act that his unit turned up no direct evidence of a threat of extremist violence after weeks of analysis and information-gathering on the protest participants.

 

Even after you are called a liar by the OPP you still keep going. Take the L bruh you are making a fool of yourself"

I never said anything about extemists so, you are BSing again.

Stay with the program BIG L. The testimony is only on Ottawa police screwing up.

Wrong. The convoy took their direction from Ottawa police and worked to move out vehicles before Trudeau wanted blood and violence. 

[ExFlyer]

7 hours ago, West said:

Wrong. The convoy took their direction from Ottawa police and worked to move out vehicles before Trudeau wanted blood and violence. 

Yeah right puddin. You saw and know all this from your basement keyboard and screen. LOL

Fact is, in the end, the EMA was enacted and the combined police force said, move before tomorrow or we will move you. Some did and others got moved.

[I am Groot]

On 10/21/2022 at 10:25 AM, West said:

Now that the Emergencies Act narrative has officially fallen apart, what's the fallout for the lil tyrant at the PMO? 

The Emergencies Act, formerly known as the War Measures Act, suspends all rights in the face of a national threat I.e terrorist activity. Its obvious there was no grounds to invoke the Act, yet was used as justification for false imprisonment and political violence against his adversaries. 

Should Trudeau go on trial for war crimes? 

I hesitated to look inside this topic for fear it would be insane ramblings.

I was right.

<== exiting now.

[dialamah]

10 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

It was a festival atmos

10 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

If they didn’t push back on mandates we’d probably still be wearing masks and running away from each other talking about case numbers and ICU’s.  Daily Covid fear porn and constant media shaming of Covidiots who dared to break rules and be social.   

That's BS.  The vast majority of Canadians supported the various mandates and didn't support the truckers.  The convoyers had no power to influence government because the were so out of step with the rest of Canadians.  The mandates would have been lifted if those people had just stayed home.

People enjoying a "festive atmosphere" that disturbs their neighbors get the cops called on them and their little party shut down.  

[ExFlyer]

10 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

It was a festival atmosphere.  If they didn’t push back on mandates we’d probably still be wearing masks and running away from each other talking about case numbers and ICU’s.  Daily Covid fear porn and constant media shaming of Covidiots who dared to break rules and be social.   

Only to those idiots on Wellington Street.

Provinces pulled their mandates when the covid became controlled. Feds pulled it when it became controlled as well.

The US still prevents entry if unvaccinated.

[ExFlyer]

9 hours ago, West said:

Wrong. The convoy took their direction from Ottawa police and worked to move out vehicles before Trudeau wanted blood and violence. 

Oh, you could not be more wrong.

Ottawa police stopped being "Ottawa" police when other police came to assist. It then became a "Police" force. Ottawa cops were just a minor and small part of the force. OPP had the largest contingent, RCMP and even QPP were involved.

Some of the fools on side streets saw it coming and pulled out the daty before but the Wellington Street dummies got yanked after EMA.

You know, you can protest politicians, you can protest governments, you can protest policies and laws but when your protest adversely affects the citezens you claim to represent, then your protest has done more harm than good.

Edited October 23, 2022 by ExFlyer

[Zeitgeist]

3 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Only to those idiots on Wellington Street.

Provinces pulled their mandates when the covid became controlled. Feds pulled it when it became controlled as well.

The US still prevents entry if unvaccinated.

No they don’t.  You’re not asked about vaccine status at the US border.