Jump to content

Turtle Island: Fact Check


Bill67

Recommended Posts

23 minutes ago, West said:

Nonsense. The Conservative party of Canada was formed in 2003. By the time they formed power no residential schools existed. 

Federally the NDP have never formed power but are responsible at a individual level. 

Outside of voting every 4 years the average person has no say in policy. Just look at the barbaric covid restrictions.. I am not responsible for those as they were never on the ballot and wouldn't vote for such vile policy

Stop with your fantasy,  the conservative party has been around since day 1.

You can dress it up with a new skirt but it is and was and always will be the conservative party.

Just as the liberals have have changed their undies since day 1 but are still the liberals.

The NDP are hangar ons federally.

As for the average person and no say on policy, that is true no matter who sits on the throne.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

39 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Stop with your fantasy,  the conservative party has been around since day 1.

You can dress it up with a new skirt but it is and was and always will be the conservative party.

Just as the liberals have have changed their undies since day 1 but are still the liberals.

The NDP are hangar ons federally.

As for the average person and no say on policy, that is true no matter who sits on the throne.

The CPC formed in 2003. That's a fact...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 minutes ago, West said:

The CPC formed in 2003. That's a fact...

back in 1867 the Liberals & Conservatives were formally the same party

the Liberal-Conservative Party government was Canada's first

now the affiliation is simply informal, but the MP's are none the less interchangeable therein

it's all the same Laurentian Elites ruling from the Iron Triangle of Toronto, Montreal & Ottawa

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, West said:

The CPC formed in 2003. That's a fact...

The CPC LOL.  Conservatives are conservatives, no matter what they call themselves now.

No hiding behind  "todays" conservatives moniker.

John A Macdonald was the first of them and they have been the same ever since.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

45 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

The CPC LOL.  Conservatives are conservatives, no matter what they call themselves now.

No hiding behind  "todays" conservatives moniker.

John A Macdonald was the first of them and they have been the same ever since.

Nonsense... you are just trying to deflect from the fact the LPOC is the party of genocide. The LPOC logo should be classified as a symbol of hate

Link to comment
Share on other sites

14 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

The Indigenous are the most privileged segment of Canadian society: free land, free education, free healthcare, no taxation, free higher education.  There will never be enough benefits and payments to the “original peoples” who warred against each other, invaded each other’s territories, and interbred with settlers while enjoying the advances of settler cultures.

Just can't stop blurting out the same settler attitudes can you?

If they couldn't walk to and from a school, then maybe they just shouldn't go! Why should I pay...

Especially enjoyed the 'they get free land' comment. The irony...

  • Thanks 1
  • Confused 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, West said:

Nonsense... you are just trying to deflect from the fact the LPOC is the party of genocide. The LPOC logo should be classified as a symbol of hate

Who give a shit about LPOC.

The CONSERVATIVES allowed the same shit to go on. John A Macdonald, the CONSERVATIVE Prime Minister started the residential school system.

The deflection comes from you...trying to hide who stared the problem. LOL

Nice try westie LOL

Link to comment
Share on other sites

15 minutes ago, herbie said:

Just can't stop blurting out the same settler attitudes can you?

If they couldn't walk to and from a school, then maybe they just shouldn't go! Why should I pay...

Especially enjoyed the 'they get free land' comment. The irony...

He has a point.

First, being called settlers is a bit of an oxymoron. the natives either capitulated or outright lost their territory.

All defeated peoples lost their right to the land and they lost. Now, they get it back plus, plus , plus.

No other peoples in world history that were defeated got as much as our natives.

Not going to get into an argument about this but it has to be looked at from a realistic point and not the touchy feely politically correct angle. Countries and people throughout history were invaded/over run/captured and the winner took all.

Edited by ExFlyer
Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Who give a shit about LPOC.

The CONSERVATIVES allowed the same shit to go on. John A Macdonald, the CONSERVATIVE Prime Minister started the residential school system.

The deflection comes from you...trying to hide who stared the problem. LOL

Nice try westie LOL

The Conservative party was only founded in 2003... 

Nice try

Link to comment
Share on other sites

15 minutes ago, West said:

The Conservative party was only founded in 2003... 

Nice try

Give it up clown...

J A Macdonald was a CONSERVATIVE...period. Look it up.

https://www.edu.gov.mb.ca/k12/cur/socstud/foundation_gr6/blms/6-1-3m.pdf

Who the F cares what they call themselves or what they decided to call the party now, a CONSERVATIVE is a CONSERVATIVE now and then.

The CONSERVATIVE Prime Minster began Residential Schools and they have supported it throughout Canadian history right up to the last CONSERVATIVE guy...Harper until he was forced to change it to avoid more political embarrassment..

Like it or not, those are the facts.

Edited by ExFlyer
Link to comment
Share on other sites

24 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Give it up clown...

J A Macdonald was a CONSERVATIVE...period. Look it up.

https://www.edu.gov.mb.ca/k12/cur/socstud/foundation_gr6/blms/6-1-3m.pdf

Who the F cares what they call themselves or what they decided to call the party now, a CONSERVATIVE is a CONSERVATIVE now and then.

The CONSERVATIVE Prime Minster began Residential Schools and they have supported it throughout Canadian history right up to the last CONSERVATIVE guy...Harper until he was forced to change it to avoid more political embarrassment..

Like it or not, those are the facts.

No need to get angry. 

YOU support the party of genocide. Disgusting

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, West said:

No need to get angry. 

YOU support the party of genocide. Disgusting

the Liberals really have painted themselves into that corner

because they have straight up summarily convicted Canada of genocide, without even holding a trial

except the Liberals basically are Canada now

the Liberal Party of Canada has erased Canadian history and replaced it with themselves at the centre

everything people associate with Canada,

to include the flag & national anthem,

are really just products of the Liberals

so by claiming that Canada has committed genocide,

they've for all intents & purposes accused themselves of committing genocide

  • Thanks 1
  • Haha 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

30 minutes ago, West said:

No need to get angry. 

YOU support the party of genocide. Disgusting

Angry? At what? Why? LOL

I only pointed out your flawed beliefs and really, that makes me happy.

Fact is, since first Canadian Prime Minister, a CONSERVATIVE to the last CONSERVATIVE Prime Minister and every Prime Minister in between, CONSERVATIVE and LIBERAL, they all supported and accommodated Residential Schools and the genocide that was the within that system.

And that, is a fact and that, does make me angry.  So, be disgusted at your own party and all Canadian governments since the beginning, all parties.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

49 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Angry? At what? Why? LOL

I only pointed out your flawed beliefs and really, that makes me happy.

Fact is, since first Canadian Prime Minister, a CONSERVATIVE to the last CONSERVATIVE Prime Minister and every Prime Minister in between, CONSERVATIVE and LIBERAL, they all supported and accommodated Residential Schools and the genocide that was the within that system.

And that, is a fact and that, does make me angry.  So, be disgusted at your own party and all Canadian governments since the beginning, all parties.

 

Not true at all. Again, the PPC and the CPC were not even parties yet

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

the Liberals really have painted themselves into that corner

because they have straight up summarily convicted Canada of genocide, without even holding a trial

except the Liberals basically are Canada now

the Liberal Party of Canada has erased Canadian history and replaced it with themselves at the centre

everything people associate with Canada,

to include the flag & national anthem,

are really just products of the Liberals

so by claiming that Canada has committed genocide,

they've for all intents & purposes accused themselves of committing genocide

These two symbols are both symbols of genocide and hate. 

 

download-2.png

images.jpeg-13.jpg

  • Thanks 1
  • Sad 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 minutes ago, West said:

Not true at all. Again, the PPC and the CPC were not even parties yet

Oh westie, westie, westie ....you cannot accept reality. A CONSERVATIVE is a CONSERVATIVE, no matter how you dress them or when you dressed them. LOL

A LIBERAL is a LIBERAL, no matter how you dress them either.

Both CONSERVATIVES and LIBERALS participated fully and willingly in Residential School systems. Whether they were todays CONSERVATIVES or yesterdays CONSERVATIVE or yesterdays LIBERALs or todays LIBERALs.

So sad to be you and such a shame you are unwilling to learn from your past CONSERVATIVE indiscretions. Maybe that is why you lost 3 elections in a row.  Forgetting your past only means you have not learned anything.  LOL

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, herbie said:

Just can't stop blurting out the same settler attitudes can you?

If they couldn't walk to and from a school, then maybe they just shouldn't go! Why should I pay...

Especially enjoyed the 'they get free land' comment. The irony...

You’re the most ill-informed knee-jerk radical left activist I’ve seen on here in a long time.  Absurd and destructive.  Your positions are ridiculous and hypocritical.   I think you would’ve been one of the biggest cheerleaders of the implementation of residential schools.  I can see the banners: “End illiteracy among Indians!  Clothe and house the children in proper homes away from the ravages of natural exposure!”  Lol

Edited by Zeitgeist
Link to comment
Share on other sites

53 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Oh westie, westie, westie ....you cannot accept reality. A CONSERVATIVE is a CONSERVATIVE, no matter how you dress them or when you dressed them. LOL

A LIBERAL is a LIBERAL, no matter how you dress them either.

Both CONSERVATIVES and LIBERALS participated fully and willingly in Residential School systems. Whether they were todays CONSERVATIVES or yesterdays CONSERVATIVE or yesterdays LIBERALs or todays LIBERALs.

So sad to be you and such a shame you are unwilling to learn from your past CONSERVATIVE indiscretions. Maybe that is why you lost 3 elections in a row.  Forgetting your past only means you have not learned anything.  LOL

Not true at all. Only the NDP and LPOC were parties who willingly participated in genocide. Sad

  • Sad 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

When you people are capable of discussion, can read what's written in front of you and can do more than post moronic memes. moot points and what you think are insults, feel free to continue on the subject.

I hate to disappoint you but 1953 is not going to happen again despite your best efforts, so you're wasting your time thinking like it is still then.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 hours ago, herbie said:

When you people are capable of discussion, can read what's written in front of you and can do more than post moronic memes. moot points and what you think are insults, feel free to continue on the subject.

I hate to disappoint you but 1953 is not going to happen again despite your best efforts, so you're wasting your time thinking like it is still then.

Don’t worry, you and your irresponsible ilk have ensured that this cultural and economic collapse is well underway.   Now you can use government funds to get sex changes for your kids, hand billions more in taxes to people who don’t pay them or like Canada, and you can collect your welfare cheque to cover part of the cost of the high priced goods your tax and spend green woke friends ushered in.  

Edited by Zeitgeist
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Took my wife to the emergency department last night as she had a lot of pain.  The sign said the wait was 4 hours.   She waited six hours before being seen.  In the meantime, other people came in after us and were taken in to be treated before my wife.  One FN man I'd say in his 30s came in and played on his smart phone and was taken in after about a 20 minute wait.  No sign of pain.  

The BC NDP government launched an investigation into the health care system recently because there were some complaints about natives not being treated fairly in it.  Looks like this has caused a complete change where some natives now get preferential treatment in the wait for treatment in the emergency department.  No attempt to treat everyone fairly.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


  • Tell a friend

    Love Repolitics.com - Political Discussion Forums? Tell a friend!
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      10,771
    • Most Online
      1,403

    Newest Member
    joebialek
    Joined
  • Recent Achievements

    • Matthew earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • CouchPotato earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • CouchPotato went up a rank
      Contributor
    • Akalupenn earned a badge
      First Post
    • CouchPotato went up a rank
      Explorer
  • Recently Browsing

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...