DogOnPorch Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 Just now, Nationalist said: Many people and our federal government are all panicking. Hence we have stupid crap like carbon taxes. These panic stricken policies and taxes are damaging our economies while our little pee-hole in the snow is grossly undone by...China and India. So...what's the point other than to destroy the fossil fuel industry and hurt everyone financially? I think you'd enjoy this...the left must use it as a guide. 'The Devil's Dictionary' by Ambrose Bierce (1906) https://www.gutenberg.org/files/972/972-h/972-h.htm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Devil's_Dictionary 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 Example: ALDERMAN, n. An ingenious criminal who covers his secret thieving with a pretense of open marauding. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dialamah Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Many people and our federal government are all panicking. Hence we have stupid crap like carbon taxes. These panic stricken policies and taxes are damaging our economies while our little pee-hole in the snow is grossly undone by...China and India. So...what's the point other than to destroy the fossil fuel industry and hurt everyone financially? Climate change is real. Has already cost Canada billions. . But hey, you are welcome to get your panties in a knot over a few more cents at the pump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 Just now, dialamah said: Climate change is real. Has already cost Canada billions. . But hey, you are welcome to get your panties in a knot over a few more cents at the pump. OK...how has this scary monster called "climate change" cost Canada billions? BTW...have you not noticed yet that the term "climate change" is not only dumb as hell, but also so generalized as to be true under any and all circumstances? mah...the climate changes. It does this regularly...daily in fact. The tradewinds shift...the planet shifts...the oceans warm and cool...and shite happens...as it ALWAYS has. This is a man-made emergency which stinks like an excuse to trash the western world. Nothing more and nothing less. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Nationalist said: OK...how has this scary monster called "climate change" cost Canada billions? BTW...have you not noticed yet that the term "climate change" is not only dumb as hell, but also so generalized as to be true under any and all circumstances? mah...the climate changes. It does this regularly...daily in fact. The tradewinds shift...the planet shifts...the oceans warm and cool...and shite happens...as it ALWAYS has. This is a man-made emergency which stinks like an excuse to trash the western world. Nothing more and nothing less. Even if you're right, which you're not. And these are just natural weather and climate events, the impetus from moving away from fuelling global economies by burning finite resources is prudent and shows long-term thinking. You're the one panicking. Fossil Fuels will be a part of the Western Economy for decades to come. But the transition has begun. But because you see that governments are incentivizing certain behaviours and disincentivizing others as an offence to your way of life. Carbon taxes just acknowledge there should be a cost to pollution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, Nationalist said: OK...how has this scary monster called "climate change" cost Canada billions? Ma'am, show us on this anatomically correct Scooby-Doo doll where climate change touched you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 Just now, DogOnPorch said: Ma'am, show us on this anatomically correct Scooby-Doo doll where climate change touched you. Now look who's sealioning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 Just now, Boges said: Now look who's sealioning. Yes...you get jokes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, Boges said: Even if you're right, which you're not. And these are just natural weather and climate events, the impetus from moving away from fuelling global economies by burning finite resources is prudent and shows long-term thinking. You're the one panicking. Fossil Fuels will be a part of the Western Economy for decades to come. But the transition has begun. But because you see that governments are incentivizing certain behaviours and disincentivizing others as an offence to your way of life. Carbon taxes just acknowledge there should be a cost to pollution. Only in the western world? Please...don't be such a patsy. Everything we do produces pollution of one form or another. If you think the cost is justified... YOU PAY IT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Only in the western world? Please...don't be such a patsy. Everything we do produces pollution of one form or another. If you think the cost is justified... YOU PAY IT! So panicky. ? It's not my problem you think 11 cents on a litre of gasoline is tough to budget for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Boges said: So panicky. ? It's not my problem you think 11 cents on a litre of gasoline is tough to budget for. That's right! I do not! You do apparently. So YOU pay. And enjoy your waltz off the cliff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Nationalist said: That's right! I do not! You do apparently. So YOU pay. And enjoy your waltz off the cliff. Not's not how representative Democracies work. There are plenty of countries that don't ask their residents to pay taxes, if you can afford to live there. Cayman, Monaco, Somolia? Edited September 23, 2022 by Boges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Boges said: Not's not how representative Democracies work. There are plenty of countries that don't ask their residents to pay taxes, if you can afford to live there. Cayman, Monaco, Somolia? No...I think I'll just vote for the guy who agrees with me and with common sense...thanks for the offer though... Edited September 23, 2022 by Nationalist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 Just now, Nationalist said: No...I think I'll just vote for the guy who agrees with me and with common sense...thanks for the offer though... Carbon Taxes have been on the ballot for the last several elections. Haven't seemed to hurt JT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 Just now, Boges said: Carbon Taxes have been on the ballot for the last several elections. Haven't seemed to hurt JT. What's your point? PP will take care of this BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 Just now, Nationalist said: What's your point? PP will take care of this BS. I feel confident in predicting that he has no shot at getting elected in a National Election without a reasonable Climate Change policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstone Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 Climate change alarmists want the rest of us to pay through the nose for oil and gas AND they want us to pay for subsidies to purchase their virtue signalling ev's. Can anyone explain why 99.99% of the politicians and uber wealthy celebrities make no effort to lower their own carbon footprint? We are constantly lectured by these fools about climate change. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Boges said: I feel confident in predicting that he has no shot at getting elected in a National Election without a reasonable Climate Change policy. Well you just cling to your "feelings" and I'll cling to common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 Just now, Nationalist said: Well you just cling to your "feelings" and I'll cling to common sense. Your common sense is quite subjective. Because it's not all that common. Especially amongst those living in Western Democracies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 Just now, Boges said: Your common sense is quite subjective. Because it's not all that common. Especially amongst those living in Western Democracies. Lol...wait till people see their heating bills this winter...and when Germany freezes. Your chickeshit is coming home to roost this winter. Enjoy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: Lol...wait till people see their heating bills this winter...and when Germany freezes. Your chickeshit is coming home to roost this winter. Enjoy... We've gone over this. Thanks Russia. And Thanks OPEC. Carbon Taxes aren't anything new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 3 hours ago, Nationalist said: Only a complete nitwit would count on the wind to power a nation. And only a destructive little Tweenkie could conclude that the cost of this BS is justified. Only a complete nitwit would decide that’s true because you think so. And just to state things clearly, I don’t know if you’re a nitwit, you probably are not, but your thinking and reasoning here are absolutely nitwit level or lower. Nearly ten percent of all electricity in the US is produced by wind TODAY. Can we make that twenty or thirty percent? Definitely! Absolutely! One hundred percent? Who said anything about that? We don’t need to replace all electricity generation in America, but replacing the 20% coal powered plants with wind and then building additional capacity with wind would be fine. But you don’t automatically do that. You site wind where it’s feasible. They do studies and calculate wind current and how many days per year, etc. The Great Plains? Plenty of wind. Tornado Alley? Maybe not feasible; I don’t know. Are we “destroying America” by replacing coal with wind? No, we’re destroying America by continuing consumption that’s causing hurricanes and wildfires nationwide. Not to mention all the asthma from coal particulates. And, by the way, this “Grid can’t support electric cars” trope is total bullshit. It’s absolutely bullshit. Cars take the same electric load as an air conditioner, but they take it at night. Are you anti-air conditioner? And it’s very simple to create a time-based charging system which not only saves the consumer a LOT of money, but also helps the Li battery last longer. And you can do that with ZERO impact on the grid. ZERO. The only time electric cars affect the grid is when they are fast charged, which is usually during the day. But EV’s aren’t currently designed to be fast charged regularly, only when needed for long trips. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: Only if we panic. Every one of these major MMGW events carry a price tag of over $20 billion. And we’ve had dozens of them and we will continue to for decades to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Rebound said: If you had the intelligence to know the facts, you’d be flabbergasted at how stupid you are for posting that moronic meme. 1) MMGW is a real crisis which is upon us today. 2) Coal is only 20% of US electrical generation 3) Even when the electricity comes from coal, gross carbon emissions are lower. You’re the people destroying America, and you’re just too damn stupid to realize it. Either that, or you’re committed to evil. One or the other. Most likely stupid. You’re just too stupid to realize that all-time high temperatures around the world, catastrophic hurricanes destroying New Orleans, Puerto Rico, the Bahamas, etc., massive, unprecedented ice storms shutting down Texas, largest-ever wildfires over and over… each of these events cost over $20 billion and you think renewable energy is too expensive and it just makes people feel good. Not to mention wars in Iraq. Man, you are just an idiot. Yeah I know the meme wasn’t completely accurate, I thought I’d poke a little fun at your side. And let me say this about your side: so serious! AOC used to say the world had 12 years to save itself or it would actually be destroyed. Other notables have since declared more recently we are down to 8 or 7 years, like we are gettin’ real close to the “Eve of Destruction”(actual song). Which is, of course, nonsense. Except that dummies out there actually believe that crap, and are living in delusion. So when California warns citizens to go easy on the car charging because of the annual heat wave, maroons who bought electric cars in California can’t see that their cars are actually adding to the problem. Then you have to ask, well where does the electricity come from? Nuclear, coal and hydro electric sources are the biggest part of it. So the electric cars aren’t so green, are they? And mining the materials that the massive batteries are made of would make an environmentalist blush, if they had any sense. Yup, there certainly are a lot of idiots out there, I can agree with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted September 23, 2022 Report Share Posted September 23, 2022 10 minutes ago, Boges said: We've gone over this. Thanks Russia. And Thanks OPEC. Carbon Taxes aren't anything new. Oh...it's everyone else who caused this. Lol... Do you teach kids they are blameless too? Man up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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