athos Posted August 18, 2022 Report Posted August 18, 2022 (edited) In the West, China is seen as a threat because with its success, in all fields, it proves that Western democracy is a failed experiment or an illusion for the naive. America has 800 military bases across 80 countries around the world the UK has 124 Russia has 21 China has 1. Who then threatens the world more? Edited August 18, 2022 by athos Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted August 18, 2022 Report Posted August 18, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, athos said: In the West, China is seen as a threat because with its success, in all fields, it proves that Western democracy is a failed experiment or an illusion for the naive. America has 800 military bases across 80 countries around the world the UK has 124 Russia has 21 China has 1. Who then threatens the world more? Chinese Communism is a failed experiment and their "success" is an illusion of the naive as is the case with Russian Autocracy you keep pointing fingers at the West while ignoring the faults of everyone else leading to truly terrible analysis Edited August 18, 2022 by Yzermandius19 1 1 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted August 18, 2022 Report Posted August 18, 2022 40 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: Chinese Communism is a failed experiment and their "success" is an illusion of the naive Why would someone state that the west failed, because China imitated them ? So bizarre. 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
I am Groot Posted August 18, 2022 Report Posted August 18, 2022 China is a threat because it is an expansionary fascist state with no ethical values or morals. It does not feel itself bound by any rules, laws, regulations or treaties, even the ones it has signed. It lies, cheats and steals from everyone they can reach and tries to undermine and influence local governments through bribery and threats. 2 Quote
athos Posted August 19, 2022 Author Report Posted August 19, 2022 54 minutes ago, I am Groot said: China is a threat because it is an expansionary fascist state with no ethical values or morals. It does not feel itself bound by any rules, laws, regulations or treaties, even the ones it has signed. It lies, cheats and steals from everyone they can reach and tries to undermine and influence local governments through bribery and threats. The facts say otherwise. Quote
I am Groot Posted August 20, 2022 Report Posted August 20, 2022 On 8/18/2022 at 8:31 PM, athos said: The facts say otherwise. These would be alternative facts, I take it? Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted August 20, 2022 Report Posted August 20, 2022 1 hour ago, I am Groot said: These would be alternative facts, I take it? indeed athos is a Russian bot, afterall Quote
sharkman Posted September 24, 2022 Report Posted September 24, 2022 I am getting rumours of unrest in China right now. Reports of a long military convoy heading into Zhangjiakou City. Xi Jinping under house arrest. Grounding of over half of all flights in China and possible jailing of senior officials. These reports are coming from Chinese nationals on Twitter. Gordon Chang and Jeniffer Zheng. If true will these things make China more of a threat? 1 Quote
DogOnPorch Posted September 24, 2022 Report Posted September 24, 2022 5 hours ago, sharkman said: I am getting rumours of unrest in China right now. Reports of a long military convoy heading into Zhangjiakou City. Xi Jinping under house arrest. Grounding of over half of all flights in China and possible jailing of senior officials. These reports are coming from Chinese nationals on Twitter. Gordon Chang and Jeniffer Zheng. If true will these things make China more of a threat? I'm seeing the same rumors that Xi has been put under house arrest and that the PLA are now calling the shots. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
SpankyMcFarland Posted September 24, 2022 Report Posted September 24, 2022 (edited) China is successful economically despite its appalling totalitarian system, the technology and entrepreneurship of South Korea struggling under a North Korean-style regime. The only way for Xi and his successors to truly ensure their safety is to dominate the world and eliminate attractive examples of freedom elsewhere. Edited September 24, 2022 by SpankyMcFarland Quote
xul Posted October 16, 2022 Report Posted October 16, 2022 (edited) Ironically, the West sees China as a threat for the same reason which the West sees Trump as a threat for: Different and Success. If both of them only kept being different but not successful, they would not be seen as a threat. Years ago, when The Hunger Games was on the big screen, I saw some kids on internet discussing whether President Snow in the movie was a dictator or was elected. It would not be difficult to know the answer if these kids knew the true meaning of of some actor lines in the film. Only an elected politician under a democracy system may consider things like these: [Video Clip 1]A spark is fine, as long as it is contained? The dictators don't know this trick. They used to extinguish a spark as soon as possible at all cost. China and Trump are seen as threats, not because they are sparks, but because they can't be contained. But if they were only successful but not different, they would not be considered as threats but useful servants. (President Snow used the word Friends/Allies to encourage Katniss to adopt this way like Obama administration once used the concept G2 to lure China going down such kind of ally of USA) [Video Clip 2] Sleepy Joe met Xi in 2013 proposing G2 to China: I want us to be friends, but if not friends, then allies.? But if you are both successful and different, you will see the true universal value existed in both systems: [Video Clip 3]But she has become a beacon of hope for the rebellion, and she has to be eliminated.? Edited October 16, 2022 by xul Quote
Aristides Posted October 16, 2022 Report Posted October 16, 2022 Because the great economic expansion is over and things are going south in the economy. Xi now wants to divert attention to external issues and regional expansion. Like Putin. Quote
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